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Thread started 11/01/05 2:09pm

unleashthejay

how does prince tune his guitars?

hey i was wondering if anyone knows how prince tunes his guitar like what key?
is it standard or does he ever down tune? how about when he plays funk?
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Reply #1 posted 11/01/05 2:12pm

GoldenGlove

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I think it's just standard tuning in most songs. hmmm
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Reply #2 posted 11/01/05 3:06pm

langebleu

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unleashthejay said:

'how does prince tune his guitars?'

He just gets Takumi to do it.

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Reply #3 posted 11/01/05 3:53pm

katt

langebleu said:

unleashthejay said:

'how does prince tune his guitars?'

He just gets Takumi to do it.

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nod and he is quick doing it 2
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Reply #4 posted 11/01/05 11:39pm

squirrelgrease

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When they go out of tune, Prince throws them away.
If prince.org were to be made idiot proof, someone would just invent a better idiot.
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Reply #5 posted 11/01/05 11:46pm

chunky

what quitars has prince used so far anyway? that's what i'd like to learn
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Reply #6 posted 11/02/05 12:03am

RealMusician

I find that Prince's guitars are surprisingly often out of tune in live performances! Usually when he's got the clean, rhythm sound - maybe after just coming from a heavy, distorted solo with lots of bends and stuff, I don't know?

But then you never see him tuning between songs, as some artists might actually do...
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Reply #7 posted 11/02/05 12:54am

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chunky said:

what quitars has prince used so far anyway? that's what i'd like to learn


Prince and his guitars:

http://www.geocities.com/.../index.htm

http://www.prince.org/msg/15/76943

http://www.prince.org/msg/15/77414

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Reply #8 posted 11/02/05 1:43am

4nowneway

Ive seen him tune it while playing Purple Rain at the same time eek
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Reply #9 posted 11/02/05 3:33am

7salles

I am waiting for people to say

"Prince can't tune his guitar, he is more about emotions" confused
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Reply #10 posted 11/02/05 5:56am

RealMusician

7salles said:

I am waiting for people to say

"Prince can't tune his guitar, he is more about emotions" confused



I just think it's a little strange that being the musical perfectionist he is, he doesn't seem to mind playing with an out-of-tune guitar...
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Reply #11 posted 11/02/05 6:35am

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Reply #12 posted 11/02/05 6:46am

Heiress

A little anecdote about tuning from DMSR, by Pier Nilsen, page 24:

Prince's father had bought him his first electric guitar, which he quickly learned to play in his own style, "I tuned it to a straight A, so it was really strange. When I first started playing guitar, I just did chords and things like that, and I didn't really get into soloing and all that until later."
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Reply #13 posted 11/02/05 11:06am

doeineffect

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I sure he tunes a note up or down on some songs. I'm not good enough yet to tell.
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Reply #14 posted 11/02/05 11:29am

RepoMan

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RealMusician said:

7salles said:

I am waiting for people to say

"Prince can't tune his guitar, he is more about emotions" confused



I just think it's a little strange that being the musical perfectionist he is, he doesn't seem to mind playing with an out-of-tune guitar...


Prince is not THAT anal. I remember an interview with Sheila E and she was talking about that yes, Prince is a perfectionist, but he's not as anal as some jazz musicians. That he doesn't care too much about the mic set up and stuff.

Besides, if Prince was a perfectionist he'd take more time writing and recording songs and he would have put out considerably less music.
Repo Man's got all night, every night.
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Reply #15 posted 11/02/05 11:31am

Lilith

In my opinion...Prince or Takumi tune the Prince guitars.....

I've learn 2 tune my classic guitar with piano.... Ear is the best tuner....

neverthless the tuning thing could b individual...me and my guitar teacher tune the guitar in a different way...He prefers in a way I do in another one....lol
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Reply #16 posted 11/02/05 12:34pm

unleashthejay

so no one knows for sure? haha, is A up or down tuned?

in kiss what tune is it you think? how about in the intro solo in when doves cry? purple rain?
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Reply #17 posted 11/02/05 12:48pm

Lilith

It depends the way u mean it.....A is up tuned ....bcuz the A chord (5th one) is the start point of tuning the guitar and then going up.....Did I understand it correctly?
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Reply #18 posted 11/02/05 1:31pm

coolcat

Prince used a Les Paul Junior before getting the Hohner Telecaster.
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Reply #19 posted 11/02/05 2:45pm

RepoMan

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coolcat said:

Prince used a Les Paul Junior before getting the Hohner Telecaster.


He has about 40 guitars.
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Reply #20 posted 11/02/05 5:39pm

unleashthejay

what were the guitars in kiss tuned to?
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Reply #21 posted 11/03/05 6:14am

bunnyman

Prince pays slaves to tune his guitars for him.
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Reply #22 posted 11/03/05 6:16am

RepoMan

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bunnyman said:

Prince pays slaves to tune his guitars for him.


Actually Takumi is the only one who is getting decent money for his work.
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Reply #23 posted 11/03/05 6:55am

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My friend, who is an huge fan of good guitar playing (and a life long guitarist himself) had this to say:

"I think the original question was referring to the type of tuning he uses. Guitarists have often experimented with odd-tunings -- blues musicians from the earliest recordings through the rolling stone's keith richards in the sixties all the way to today's modern rockers who often use a low 7th-string. I can assure you that Prince uses standard-tuning (EADGBE). It's possible that he might tune down a half-step, which was a common technique for Jimi Hendrix (and surely an inspiration of his). This allows you to use thicker strings for a meatier tone, while the lower pitch makes than slacker, allowing for easier string-bending. I'd need to listen to his recordings to see if he's actually in concert-pitch verses 1/2 step.

The comment about him not being particular about his equipment is hard to believe. Every guitarist -- from a 12-year-old kid in his bedroom through to any seasoned pro -- is keenly aware of their equipment. Be it the guitar itself, the amplifier, the speaker in the amplifier, the year of the speaker in the amplifier, the color of the year of the amplifier (no, really). Some guitarists claim that the cords they use have a major impact on their sound. Rest assured that Prince is at least this particular. About guitar, mics, monitors, etc.

Lastly, Hohners are the equivalent of those shoes your mom bought you instead of the Nikes you really wanted. They looked the same to mom, but not to you, and they wore out quicker than your friend's Nikes. My point is that it's really funny, and odd that such a crappy guitar brand is still his main choice. One reason might be that the quality standards of the American guitar-makers in the seventies through the eighties were in the garbage. Fender was owned by CBS, and Gibson by the Norlins Corporation. Japanese manufacturers were stealing their designs and producing better copies than the new US-made originals.
Hohners are known for doing only one thing particulary well: make harmonicas. I had a Honher-made imitation Steinberger and it broke after a year. The substandard guitar maker might be the exact reason why his guitars are frequently out-of-tune."


(If you disagree--remember I'm just the messanger! batting eyes ) But I will say, even if Honher guitars are a sub-par brand, don't you think Prince has his tricked out pretty well?
The check. The string he dropped. The Mona Lisa. The musical notes taken out of a hat. The glass. The toy shotgun painting. The things he found. Therefore, everything seen–every object, that is, plus the process of looking at it–is a Duchamp.
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Reply #24 posted 11/03/05 7:03am

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jone70 said:


(If you disagree--remember I'm just the messanger! batting eyes ) But I will say, even if Honher guitars are a sub-par brand, don't you think Prince has his tricked out pretty well?


Shit, Prince used worse brands that make Hohner sound top notch.
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Reply #25 posted 11/03/05 7:56am

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Every guitarist -- from a 12-year-old kid in his bedroom through to any seasoned pro -- is keenly aware of their equipment. Be it the guitar itself, the amplifier, the speaker in the amplifier, the year of the speaker in the amplifier, the color of the year of the amplifier (no, really). Some guitarists claim that the cords they use have a major impact on their sound.


Those some guitarists are morons.
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Reply #26 posted 11/03/05 1:25pm

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jone70's

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Every guitarist -- from a 12-year-old kid in his bedroom through to any seasoned pro -- is keenly aware of their equipment. Be it the guitar itself, the amplifier, the speaker in the amplifier, the year of the speaker in the amplifier, the color of the year of the amplifier (no, really). Some guitarists claim that the cords they use have a major impact on their sound.


Those some guitarists are morons.


I take it to mean that certain cords do help eliminate hiss and unwanted noise/breakups. I've experimented with certain brands and sometimes they do make a difference. Translation - the cheap ones can be really crappy.
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Reply #27 posted 11/04/05 3:52am

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Novabreaker said:

jone70's

Those some guitarists are morons.


I take it to mean that certain cords do help eliminate hiss and unwanted noise/breakups. I've experimented with certain brands and sometimes they do make a difference. Translation - the cheap ones can be really crappy.


That's what it should mean, yeah. However most guitarists know next to nothing about matters like these and seem to make the silliest claims.
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Reply #28 posted 11/04/05 8:26am

kstrat

Novabreaker said:

JesseDezz said:



I take it to mean that certain cords do help eliminate hiss and unwanted noise/breakups. I've experimented with certain brands and sometimes they do make a difference. Translation - the cheap ones can be really crappy.


That's what it should mean, yeah. However most guitarists know next to nothing about matters like these and seem to make the silliest claims.




Oh really...I find that some of the most bone-headed comments about guitaris(or any other musician for a fact) come from cat's that don't play.

On the other hand some guitarist have a very elitist attitudes when it comes to gear. If it aint a Fender or Gibson it obviously must be garbage.
rolleyes

An earlier post featured what sounds like a mini rant about how awful Hohner guitars are. Well if Prince has had this guitar kicking around all this time it can't be all that bad, considering he can play any make of guitar he wants. I think the only thing that's changed on that guitar are the pickups and thats fairly recent. Import instrument often get a bad rap, Some of it is junk and there was a time when you wouldn't have a leg to stand on if you wanted to argue the point.

Today there are many good quality import guitars available. Heck many of big brand names are having their mid-line models built in the same factories as these imports. I'm sorry to hear that cat who posted earlier didn't have much luck with his Hohner Steinberger copy. I've had one of their copies of a Steinberger bass for about 15 years. Is it as good a real Steinberger? No. Aside for an occaisional set-up I've never had a problem with it.

Lastly, the whole I can here the tonal differences in different brands of guitar cables, probably originated with virtuoso guitarist Eric Johnson
who is imfamously nit-picky about his guitar tone. He's fantasic...uh..but I guess he's a moron too.....

Peace-Out!

KSTRAT
[Edited 11/4/05 8:34am]
[Edited 9/3/20 11:05am]
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Reply #29 posted 11/04/05 8:32am

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RepoMan said:[quote]

RealMusician said:



Besides, if Prince was a perfectionist he'd take more time writing and recording songs and he would have put out considerably less music.


- Yes, that´s what I always thought
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