why doesn't he (for example) go back and edit the "fuck" out of "Face Down"?

Maybe that's where he's been all year,sneaking into people's CD collection and editting all his old music?

sitruk7 said:

The question (obviously) is why doesn't he go back and edit the master so that all future pressings omit the word?

Ace said:

Sorry, just messin' with ya!Seriously, maybe he did condider it but found it too time consuming.Also, I think WB unfortunately has too much control over much of his music still.

sitruk7 said:

There's nothing time-consuming about it; the change could be made with one thirty-second phonecall. I specifically chose "Face Down" because he owns that master.

Ace said:

Can't say I know what to tell ya man.Who knows, maybe Prince is planning to do it? Maybe he feels that if people want to listen to him swearing in his old music then they have the oportunity to listen to his old music?

Ace said:

I picked up a new copy of Emancipation recently and it was edited.

sitruk7 said:

He said in several interviews last year that he now finds swearing offensive. Why didn't he edit "Face Down" (for example) when he came to this belief?

asideorderofham said:

Really?

Here's a poser:

In an interview on the Musicology tour, the questioner asked him if he would ever perform "Erotic City" again. Prince's response was that he would not, but that that record still exists if you want to hear it. To be consistent with the current beliefs he espouses, should he not have said, "That's an offensive record, I regret making it and if I had the power to recall it, I would"?

Prince changes his mind like he changes his hair style.You should know that.

sitruk7 said:

Oh, I'm quite aware of that. But if he's currently telling people that swearing is wrong and that he won't perform a song like "Erotic City" because of that, shouldn't he be imploring them not to listen to these songs?

asideorderofham said:

That's because when "Emancipation" was released there was an "Explicit" (normal) version and a "Clean" version... (Just like the album...)

Neversin.

Ace said:

Prince can be pretty far-gone sometimes, but I think even he realizes telling fans not to listen to "Erotic City" or "Let's Pretend We're Married" or whatever is a waste of time. He sorta tried it once with the "DON'T BUY THE BLACK ALBUM, I'M SORRY" message in the Alphabet St. video. And we all know how well fans responded to that.

And as Neversin said, there are 'clean,' edited versions of several of his albums. If you don't want to hear the swearing, clean versions are available for you.

renfield said:

If he believes that swearing is wrong, then it is inconsistent for him to make that sort of statement about "Erotic City". As for the "Don't buy The Black Album" thing, that was easy for him to say, as it was not available legitimately at that point and any money being made was not going into his pocket.
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Ace said:

Beacuse perhaps he doesnt regret making it. Perhaps he regards his past as only the route of getting him where he is today. Consequently, he may not particularly identify with his old message but he doesnt have to delve back into it to make it fit with his current belief. Simply, he chooses to stay away from it and live in the present, the now.

3121 said:

But he believes swearing is wrong, correct? Making a statement like 'those records are there to listen to if you want' is inconsistent with this belief. The consistent response to the interviewer's question would have been, "Yes, those records have offensive things on them. I would edit them if I could, but - since I cannot - I would urge people not to buy or listen to them."

that is exactly what we don't want him to do. by the way, judging on the amount of emancipation albums I see in the used bins for little next to nothing, I don't think they will have te repress them the next ten years.

Freekclaassen said:

PurpleKnight said:

Did you read any of the above? What about the masters he does own and the inconsistencies between his espoused beliefs and his comments regarding "Erotic City"?

Ace said:

Sorry, I only read the first post. Well, an edited version of Emancipation is already out there, and beyond that he doesn't like actions that require going back to the past.

He seems to be all about making new stuff rather than tinkering with the old.
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PurpleKnight said:

He seemed to have no problem tinkering with "1999". I still maintain that if you are running around preaching that swearing is bad and someone asks you about a song of yours that contains what you now feel is obscenity, you don't say, 'Well, those records are still around if you wanna listen to them '.

Ace said:

Oh please! He'd have to go back and edit far more than "Face Down". He's made a personal choice not to swear, I say, good for him!

Good fucking grief, you people act like he told you to stop swearing or something!

Ace said:

He's just saying that to those who still want him to swear. He tinkered with 1999 just to fuck with WB, who were gonna cash in on his hit one last time.

SexyBeautifulOne said:

He has an out for the Warner's stuff; he does not for the stuff he owns.


Well, he basically has (not that I give a fuck). But that's not the issue here - it's hypocrisy.

PurpleKnight said:

He tinkered with "1999" because he knew its sales would go up that year and he was hoping to pocket some additional cash. Let's get real here.

Ace said:

Money is a driving force behind everything, but the WB issue also had a lot to do with it. He wanted people to buy his version instead of theirs.

PurpleKnight said:

And why would that be?

Ace said:

I already said money had a lot to do with it. That's just stating the obvious. But don't pretend that's the only reason.

That'd be like saying Prince ONLY wanted to be a musician to become a millionaire.

He didn't want people buying the WB version 'cause he hates when they control his songs and profit off what he created.

He believes the artist should be the one getting the majority of the money from a hit, not record executives.
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