I hear "love it isn't love until is had" but everytime people post the lyrics it's posted like: "love it isn't love until is past".

Is it "had" or "past"???

I'm talking about the parade version by the way

Sorry for my english

supposedly it's "past"

www.dtt-lyrics.com

but i still cry in my corner and say it should be "passed".

On the acoustic live versions from the Musicology tour, he says 'until it's had' I believe, but the original is 'passed'.

What does it mean and what is he talking about is it CARDS or CARS? Those Kind Of CARS OR CARDS Don't Pass You EVERYDAY...I think he means people. However for some reason for a long time I just Could NOT LISTEN to That song thinking about the iMAGE of CHRISTOPHER/PRINCE Dying..Plus I used to think about a Dog getting hit by a Car. That kind of thing..SAD SONG...

Zelaira said:

"Those kind of cars don't pass you every day."

Wasn't the first time he used the person/car analogy.

the official sheet music put out by WB says "past"

txladykat said:

Thank you.
And if you use logic, 'past' rhymes perfectly with the previous line's final word - 'last'.

I know what dtt-lyrics says but I've heard it again and I'm still hearing "had". Am I crazy or just a little deaf?

newpowerboy said:

You know, having just re-listened to the ending, you're right, it does sound like 'had'. The previous line is 'all things they say never last' so 'passed' (or the badly grammatial 'past') rhymes. You can definately hear the 'sss' sound in 'last' but you certainly don't hear it in the final word, it does sound more like 'had'.

Jestyr said:

uh...so does 'passed'. which would make more sense, imo.

metalorange said:

well, 'past' could be grammatically correct & make sense, but surely that can't be the intended meaning. it would have to mean 'the past', rather than something having come and gone. Which is a stretch.

If it's 'had', then i'm seriously disappointed in prince, because that's just wank.

TheFrog said:

Hmmm, I don't know all the grammatical ins-and-outs of 'past' and 'passed', but certainly he means the love is 'in the past' or that it has 'passed' i.e. passed by, is over - but 'had' would also imply the same thing.

I don't know, why not a have fresh listen and decide for yourself? It's definately 'had' on the live version from ONA live, you definately don't hear the 'p' sound but rather the softer 'h' sound, I'm thinking now that newpowerboy is right and the lyrics as printed are not what is actually sung.

TheFrog said:

it iz PaSt

Didn´t he sing " until it´s HERE .." in LA/ Staples Center March 2004 ?
Of course that wasn´t the album version, but I´m positive he said "..here..".

TheFrog said:

This might just mean that Princes spelling isnt great though?

Seems he probably meant it as "passed"

It's "had", definitely it's "had". I don't care what dtt-lyrics or the official sheet music says. It's "had". Listen to it, it's "had"

newpowerboy said:

so, are you trying to say that its "had"?










, sorry, couldn't resist

I don't think I've listened to that dull song enough to even know what the last line is.

vainandy said:

awww..baby. for those who appreciate this style of music there is much to appreciate.

Universaluv said:

i always thought it was cards as in a good poker hand.

newpowerboy said:

I believe it's "Past"

dovecry said:

I believed that too, but listen to it, just listen to it.

for nigh 20 years I thought it was "had"...

I listened to it just now and it sounds like "hahhh" or "pahhh"

wtf?

It's "had". I know because at the Musicology cd release thing at Webster Hall in NY, I was on his right hand side, right against the stage. I was singing right along with him during Sometimes it snows and at the end I said "past" and he said "had". I was sooo embarrased, I hoped that there were no cameras on me. Luckily my error was not televised!

But now I know it's "had".

Prince began changing many of his lyrics for live performances the late 90's. Originally, the lyric is 'past', however it is difficult to soften the essentially acapella hard "P" (as in the word "past") on a live mike, so he changes it to "had", since this is easier on the mike and the listener's ears.

Jestyr said:

Yes, it´s definitely "past" on the album version ( and occasionally during some ONA concerts, not everytime though). But what about the LA Staples Center,March 2004 version...didn´t he sing " Love it isn´t love until it´s...here ?"

Just wondering...


(And if not I will be the king of misheard lyrics and Frog will be laughing cause I´m still digging through my old cassettes looking for MJ´s version of Never Can Say Goodbye where he fucks up one line and sings Never Can Stay Goodbye...I´m a 100 % sure, but still haven´t found it yet.)
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sosgemini said:

Indeed. Simply beautiful song.

I agree that the line should be "passed", but it sounds the same, so it doesn't affect me when I listen to it.

Isn't it great when people come 2gether and help each
other even if it's just about a little word like
past,had or even..here

newpowerboy said:

I have listened to it, and just did.... It is past or could possibly be passed. Love, it isn't love, until its gone is what he's saying right? I believe so.

Everybody, just do this for me. Listen to the album version. Listen to the line before - 'All things they say never last' - listen JUST to the 'st' part as it is sung.

You can hear it, right?

Now listen to the last line. Don't try to hear the whole word, just listen for Prince saying the 'st' sound in 'past'.

You CAN'T hear it, right? It should be there, but it's not, at least I can't hear it. I think a lot of people are not REALLY listening to it, they're just filling in the 'st' part in their own heads.

There's no reason for the 'st' to be silent since it isn't when he pronounces 'last'. That's why I now think it is another word. What that word is, I don't know. If it starts with a 'p' it must be 'paaaaahhhh....' 'cos there ain't no damn 'st' in it!