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Reply #30 posted 10/16/05 1:44pm

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Keith Boykin, black-gay activist was dissallowed to speak at the millions more march.

this made me sooo sad:

The Speech That Didn't Happen
By Keith Boykin
October 15, 2005 04:18 PM


Millions More March
After eight months of discussion, four productive conversations with Minister Farrakhan and a heated exchange with Rev. Willie Wilson, the Millions More Movement March took place today and I was not allowed to speak. Although I believe we have opened the door for historic and positive dialogue with Minister Farrakhan, Rev. Wilson does not appear to be ready for such dialogue.

This is what happened today. After I arrived at the VIP tent shortly after 8 in the morning, my colleague Donna Payne spoke directly to Rev. Willie Wilson backstage, and he informed her that no one from the National Black Justice Coalition would be speaking today. Donna told Rev. Wilson that he was violating our agreement, and Wilson replied that the agreement was void because the Coalition had not responded by Friday. That was not true.

Rev. Wilson's excuse seemed a mere pretext to prevent us from speaking. Sadly, I am not surprised. He has been an obstacle to this process all along. Ever since his controversial July 3 sermon in which he blamed the rise of lesbianism for the problems in the black community, Rev. Wilson seems to have developed ill feelings toward the black gay community for responding to his attack. That was three months ago, and I had hoped to use my speech today to extend an olive branch to Rev. Wilson to move beyond our differences and heal our wounds, but his actions this morning made that impossible.

Today I am publishing the remarks I would have given at the Millions More Movement March had I been allowed to speak. The complete text is below.

Remarks Prepared for Delivery
The Millions More March
Saturday, October 15, 2005
By Keith Boykin

Good Afternoon. Today I am honored to stand here at the Millions More Movement March as a representative of the National Black Justice Coalition, the country’s only national civil rights organization for Black lesbians, gays, bisexuals and transgendered people. The National Black Justice Coalition strongly supports the goals of the Millions More Movement for unity and inclusion of our entire community.

In February of this year, Minister Farrakhan and I participated in Tavis Smiley’s annual “State of The Black Union” event in Atlanta. During a press conference that day, Minister Farrakhan announced that women and gays would be encouraged to participate in today’s March. “The makeup will be our people, whoever we are,” he said. Then he added, “Male, female, gay, straight, light, dark, rich, poor, ignorant, wise. We are family. We will be coming together to discuss family business.”

After the press conference, I spoke to the Minister and I introduced myself. “Minister Farrakhan,” I said, while shaking his hand, “My name is Keith Boykin, and I am a Black gay man. And I want to thank you for your inclusive comments about gays in the Million Man March.” Without missing a beat, Minister Farrakhan responded to me with a long, warm embrace. “Brother, I love you,” he said as we hugged. “We are all part of the family. We are all part of the same community.” That was an historic moment.

Ten years ago, I joined more than a million of my brothers on this very location for the Million Man March. At that time, there were no openly gay, lesbian or bisexual speakers at that March. This time, however, I am able to speak here today as an openly gay man because of the courageous leadership of one man – Minister Louis Farrakhan. I publicly and honestly thank him and salute him for the invitation to speak. The diversity of speakers assembled here today is a powerful signal that we in the Black community will not allow ourselves to be divided by differences of opinion, religion, gender, class or sexual orientation ever again.

As Minister Farrakhan himself said in August, “we must not allow painful utterances of the past or present, based on sincere belief, or based on our ignorance, or based on our ideology or philosophy to cripple a movement that deserves and needs all of us—and, when I say all, I mean all of us.”

Earlier this week, two of my colleagues and I sat with Minister Farrakhan, his wife, his daughter, and his son, and with Rev. Willie Wilson, the executive director of this March. Minister Farrakhan said it was the first time he had ever sat down with a group of openly gay and lesbian African Americans. Let me be honest. It was an intense, passionate and candid meeting where both sides shared their pain and frustration with the other. At the end of the discussion, however, we made progress. We realized that there are no “both sides” of the table. There is only one side, and that is the side of justice.

So today I accept the olive branch offered by Minister Farrakhan and Rev. Wilson and offer an olive branch of my own. We acknowledge the hurt and pain that has been caused by both sides in our past conflicts, and we fully commit ourselves to heal the deep wounds that have hurt us. Thank you, Minster Farrakhan and Rev. Wilson for the love.

We have disagreed in the past and we may disagree in the future, but we all agree that we must move forward together. We all agree that we will not allow ourselves to be manipulated by the media to create divisions among us. We all agree that we are stronger together than we are apart. And we all agree that the struggle for the liberation of our people is more important than our individual differences of opinion.

Fifty years ago, Ralph Ellison wrote, "I am an invisible man. . . I am invisible, understand, simply because people refuse to see me. . . . When they approach me they see only my surroundings, themselves, or figments of their imagination -- indeed, everything and anything except me." Ralph Ellison was talking about the invisibility of the African American, but the same could be said of Black gays and lesbians.

When Dr. King spoke at the 1963 Civil Rights March, he called on one person, Bayard Rustin, a Black gay man, to organize that march. When Duke Ellington performed “Take The ‘A’ Train,” he called on one person, Billy Strayhorn, a Black gay man to serve as his composer. And when Black actors and directors put on performances of “A Raisin In The Sun,” they call on one person, Lorraine Hansberry, a Black bisexual playwright, to serve as their muse.

Black culture as we know it today would not exist without the words of James Baldwin, the poetry of Audre Lorde, or the choreography of Alvin Ailey. That is why I am here today – to honor their legacy.

But I am also here to honor the living heroes and sheroes of today. My good friend Phill Wilson likes to say that our people cannot love us if they do not know us. So I want you to know who we are. I want you to know the activist Angela Davis, the Pulitzer Prize-winning Author Alice Walker, the Grammy-nominated recording artist Me'Shell Ndege'Ocello, Editor-at-Large and former executive editor for ESSENCE magazine Linda Villarosa, and the former Adviser to New York Mayor David Dinkins, Dr. Marjorie Hilll.

And I want you to know the living male heroes. Men like New York City Council Member Phillip Reed, Former Mayor of Cambridge Ken Reeves, Mayor of Palm Springs Ron Oden, Bestselling Author E. Lynn Harris, and Harvard University Chaplain Rev. Peter Gomes.

And finally, I want you to know that we are your brothers and sons and fathers. We are your sisters and daughters and mothers. And we are your cousins and nieces and nephews as well. We cannot separate ourselves from the larger Black family because we are an integral part of the Black family. We raise our families, we send money to our nephews, and yes we sing in the choir as well.

The issues that affect Black gays and lesbians are issues that affect all Black people. Last year I sat in the living room of a young mother who had lost her child to violence in Newark, New Jersey. Her 15-year-old daughter, Sakia Gunn, was murdered because the killer thought she was gay. When black homosexuals and bisexuals are murdered, black heterosexual family members still have to bury their kin. What happens to Black gays and lesbians directly affects black straight people as well.

HIV and AIDS is the leading cause of death for young Black people, gay or straight. Forty-five million Americans do not have health insurance, and too many of this group are Black, gay or straight. Unemployment is still too high among Black people, gay or straight. We are all connected.

When Black people were forced to sit in the back of the bus, Black gay people were forced to sit in the back of the bus. When Black people could not vote, Black lesbians could not vote. And when Black people are beaten and abused by the police, Black bisexuals are beaten and abused by the police.

We share the same goals and aspirations as the rest of the Black community, but none of us can accomplish those goals without unity and courage. We all need courage in our lives. It took courage for you to come here today. It took courage for Minister Farrakhan to invite me to speak today. And it will take courage to heal the wounds that have divided us for far too long.

In the timeless words of Audre Lorde, "When I dare to be powerful – to use my strength in the service of my vision – then it becomes less and less important whether I am afraid." So I say to you today: Be strong, be proud, be courageous.
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Reply #31 posted 10/17/05 2:28am

prettymansson

i like we march...i thought that and shy were the best tracks on the gold experience...oh well...
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Reply #32 posted 10/17/05 6:40am

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sonofblade said:

archive said:




like When Will We Be Paid or even One Song.



If you listen to the lyrics of this song and know anything about the purpose of the march - or the Civil Rights Movement for that matter, it is obvious that this song is the best fit on a thematic basis. I do believe it was turned down by the Nation of Islam at the original Million Man march 10 years ago when Prince offered it.
[Edited 10/16/05 10:42am]


I know plenty about the civil rights movement, and I have many relatives whom were at the forefront. I'm also familiar with the lyrics and meaning of the track 'We March'. Yet, the song should have been re-recorded, retouched a little, more powerful background vocals (preferrably not the sound of a young girl doing the back vox; no offense). For this occassion a strong song that's going to also motivate people is necessary. The most listeners would do with the track as it is; is bob their heads.
Blue music
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Reply #33 posted 10/17/05 6:52am

ontheonevegas

Heaven forbid if anything positive came from this..your all so selfish you dont care about the cause..just whether or not you whingers get a new Prince track or not..can you see how selfish you all are?...pathetic!
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Reply #34 posted 10/17/05 7:25am

Anxiety

ontheonevegas said:

Heaven forbid if anything positive came from this..your all so selfish you dont care about the cause..just whether or not you whingers get a new Prince track or not..can you see how selfish you all are?...pathetic!



"whingers"...sooo 1998...and the naysayers are still waiting for their toast! lol
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Reply #35 posted 10/17/05 9:00am

madison

Uno para todos, y todos para uno {one 4 all and all 4 one}
March, we march

(whoa) {x6 in bg}
March, we march {x2}

If this is the same avenue my ancestors fought 2 liberate
How come I can’t buy a piece of it even if my credit’s straight?
If all the water’s dirty and I wanna lay the pipe, my dammy
The river that I drink from, will it be the same as your mammy?

Chorus:
Now’s the time 2 find a rhyme (yeah)
That’s got a reason and frees the mind (yeah)
From angry thoughts, the racist kind (yeah)
If we all wanna a change then come on get in line
Next time we march (whoa)
We’re kickin’ down the door
Next time we march (whoa)
All is what we’re marchin’ 4

If this is the same sister that u cannot stop calling a bitch (bitch)
It will be the same one that will leave your broke ass in a ditch (ditch)
If u can’t find a better reason 2 call this woman otherwise
Then don’t cry, u made the bed in which u lie

Chorus

(whoa) {x4 in bg}
March, we march (come on)
March, we march
Yes we do!

Dig..
Now we clarify 4ever, in other words as long as it takes
We ain’t got no use 4 ice cream without the cake (umm)
We ain’t got no time 4 excuses, the promised land belongs 2 all
We can march in peace but u best watch your back if another leader falls

March, we march
[feet stompin’!]
March, we march

He said it, she said it and I say...
Now’s the time (now’s the time) 2 find a rhyme (yeah)
That’s got a reason (yeah) and frees the mind (free your mind)
From angry thoughts, the racist kind (yeah)
If we all wanna a change then come on get in line (get in line!)
Next time we march (whoa)
We’re kickin’ down the door
Next time we march (hey yeah) (whoa)
All is what were marchin’ 4 (whooaa)

Next time we march (oh yeah) (whoa)
Kickin’ down the door
Next time we march (hey yeah) (whoa)
All is what were marchin’ 4

The fun don’t stop the bacon
That’s when the money gonna stop the shakin’

I know that next time we march, yeah
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Reply #36 posted 10/17/05 10:56am

giotto

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People might dis the song but the lyrics are ace.

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"You don't frighten us, English pig dogs. Go and boil your bottoms, sons of a silly person."
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Reply #37 posted 10/17/05 1:39pm

sonofblade

TheBluePrince said:

sonofblade said:




If you listen to the lyrics of this song and know anything about the purpose of the march - or the Civil Rights Movement for that matter, it is obvious that this song is the best fit on a thematic basis. I do believe it was turned down by the Nation of Islam at the original Million Man march 10 years ago when Prince offered it.
[Edited 10/16/05 10:42am]


I know plenty about the civil rights movement, and I have many relatives whom were at the forefront. I'm also familiar with the lyrics and meaning of the track 'We March'. Yet, the song should have been re-recorded, retouched a little, more powerful background vocals (preferrably not the sound of a young girl doing the back vox; no offense). For this occassion a strong song that's going to also motivate people is necessary. The most listeners would do with the track as it is; is bob their heads.


I would submit that is all they need to do. The purpose of the compilation is not to entertain and make black people dance - we already do plenty of that. The purpose of this and the civil rights movement that your relatives were at the forefront of (which means little if you were not there) is the mobilization and solidarity of the people thus the demonstration of the MARCH; not the DANCE. Here is a situation where the perceived musical quality of a song by the masses doesnt matter as much as the perceived reason for its existence. Any song from Prince will draw attention to the package and what it stands for - hopefully. Black people are going to party to the latest hip hop tripe anyway.
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Reply #38 posted 10/17/05 6:08pm

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"We March" may be the title of the song, but the groove is sooooo "We Skip".
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Reply #39 posted 10/18/05 9:27am

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sonofblade said:

TheBluePrince said:



I know plenty about the civil rights movement, and I have many relatives whom were at the forefront. I'm also familiar with the lyrics and meaning of the track 'We March'. Yet, the song should have been re-recorded, retouched a little, more powerful background vocals (preferrably not the sound of a young girl doing the back vox; no offense). For this occassion a strong song that's going to also motivate people is necessary. The most listeners would do with the track as it is; is bob their heads.


I would submit that is all they need to do. The purpose of the compilation is not to entertain and make black people dance - we already do plenty of that. The purpose of this and the civil rights movement that your relatives were at the forefront of (which means little if you were not there) is the mobilization and solidarity of the people thus the demonstration of the MARCH; not the DANCE. Here is a situation where the perceived musical quality of a song by the masses doesnt matter as much as the perceived reason for its existence. Any song from Prince will draw attention to the package and what it stands for - hopefully. Black people are going to party to the latest hip hop tripe anyway.
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So...It means nothing that my family was at the forefront, simply because I wasn't...? Since we're so critical, I'm guessing that YOU WERE THERE. Right? No one's interested in the song making people dance, if you read my post, that's the exact point I was making. It's not enough for the content of a song to be meaningful. It has to capture the listener. I could write a song or poem right now filled with pertinant information about Black History and the current condition of Blacks in America. If I don't have a catchy rhythm, and/or a good song overall; NO ONE WILL LISTEN! That's why I'm glad we have artist like Kanye, Talib, Mos and Common, becuase they combine the two.
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Reply #40 posted 10/18/05 10:25am

talk2bill2

I hope Prince pulls the song form this project or at the very least takes steps to publicly distance himself from this Shabazz person. I hope that Prince would never support the likes of Malik Zulu Shabazz and his hate speech.
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Reply #41 posted 10/18/05 12:00pm

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squirrelgrease said:

"We March" may be the title of the song, but the groove is sooooo "We Skip".


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Reply #42 posted 10/18/05 12:09pm

talk2bill2

We March? no way given the tone of the event i think "race" is a better fit. and who is thre finger pointing at?
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Reply #43 posted 10/18/05 5:14pm

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talk2bill2 said:

I hope Prince pulls the song form this project or at the very least takes steps to publicly distance himself from this Shabazz person. I hope that Prince would never support the likes of Malik Zulu Shabazz and his hate speech.


As a warm-up speaker for Khalid Abdul Muhammad at Howard University (February 1994):

Shabazz: Who is it that caught and killed Nat Turner?
Audience: Jews!
Shabazz: Who is that controls the Federal Reserve?
Audience: Jews! (faintly)
Shabazz: What? You're not scared, are you?
Audience: Jews! Jews!
Shabazz: Who is it that controls the media and Hollywood?
Audience: Jews! Jews!
Shabazz: Who is it that has our entertainers…and our athletes in a vise grip?
Audience: Jews!
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Reply #44 posted 10/18/05 5:32pm

piemel

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Reply #45 posted 10/18/05 5:41pm

talk2bill2

but they will say "we did not say that about the jews that was the people" but that is garbage.
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Reply #46 posted 10/18/05 5:49pm

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piemel said:

talk2bill2 said:

I hope Prince pulls the song form this project or at the very least takes steps to publicly distance himself from this Shabazz person. I hope that Prince would never support the likes of Malik Zulu Shabazz and his hate speech.


As a warm-up speaker for Khalid Abdul Muhammad at Howard University (February 1994):

Shabazz: Who is it that caught and killed Nat Turner?
Audience: Jews!
Shabazz: Who is that controls the Federal Reserve?
Audience: Jews! (faintly)
Shabazz: What? You're not scared, are you?
Audience: Jews! Jews!
Shabazz: Who is it that controls the media and Hollywood?
Audience: Jews! Jews!
Shabazz: Who is it that has our entertainers…and our athletes in a vise grip?
Audience: Jews!


No. No. No. They were saying "Juice!" As in OJ Simpson.
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Reply #47 posted 10/18/05 7:57pm

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No. No. No. They were saying "Juice!" As in OJ Simpson.


They were actually referring to country singer Juice Newton, who - as we all know - is one of the most reviled enemies of the Nation of Islam, due to her inappropriate request to be called "Angel of the Morning". nod
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Reply #48 posted 10/18/05 11:39pm

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potroastpony said:

Lame news. We march. Can you believe that fool made an outtake out of Days of wild and left that on there, especially after making such a big deal about days of wild before gold came out?


Fuck all yall, We March is da shiz nod
Don't hurt me, I'm a newb. I'm supposed to be stupid.
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Reply #49 posted 10/19/05 2:42pm

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doctamario said:

potroastpony said:

Lame news. We march. Can you believe that fool made an outtake out of Days of wild and left that on there, especially after making such a big deal about days of wild before gold came out?


Fuck all yall, We March is da shiz nod


falloff
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Reply #50 posted 10/19/05 6:08pm

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Anxiety said:

squirrelgrease said:



No. No. No. They were saying "Juice!" As in OJ Simpson.


They were actually referring to country singer Juice Newton, who - as we all know - is one of the most reviled enemies of the Nation of Islam, due to her inappropriate request to be called "Angel of the Morning". nod


falloff

Fucker. Now I have "Playing With The Queen Of Hearts" in my head.
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Reply #51 posted 10/20/05 4:12am

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squirrelgrease said:

Anxiety said:



They were actually referring to country singer Juice Newton, who - as we all know - is one of the most reviled enemies of the Nation of Islam, due to her inappropriate request to be called "Angel of the Morning". nod


falloff

Fucker. Now I have "Playing With The Queen Of Hearts" in my head.


lol lol lol
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