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Reply #90 posted 10/16/05 9:00am

wizatmath

CJ Baby Daddy ROlls on the floor etc. razz razz

I hope you don't pay child support and got away with all the spousal abuse razz
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Reply #91 posted 10/16/05 1:38pm

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prince is the kind of person who will not let his fans down

like somebody on my thread siad that he can still perform but just sitting down
hav u had ur + sign 2 day.
eye wish u heaven
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Reply #92 posted 10/16/05 4:34pm

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Papaj said:

Moderators confirmed Prince is not planning on taking any surgery.




I'm sure it's NPGMC moderators he consults when making major medical decisions.
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Reply #93 posted 10/16/05 5:36pm

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I sincerely pray that if he does have health issues that he will do what ever is necessary so that he can become hale and hearty again. Also I recall that someone told me that the JW (I personally think all that made up stuff they do is a bunch of crap rolleyes) changed their laws/rules to allow blood transfusions because someone high up in their organization ended up needing one. Now I CANT attest to the validity of this and I was told this atleast 1yr ago and even then I wasnt told when it actually occured.

My prayers are with you P. nod
?Cause me and u could have been a work of art

BE BLESSED!!
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Reply #94 posted 10/16/05 5:58pm

Heiress

interpret said:

I sincerely pray that if he does have health issues that he will do what ever is necessary so that he can become hale and hearty again. Also I recall that someone told me that the JW (I personally think all that made up stuff they do is a bunch of crap rolleyes) changed their laws/rules to allow blood transfusions because someone high up in their organization ended up needing one. Now I CANT attest to the validity of this and I was told this atleast 1yr ago and even then I wasnt told when it actually occured.

My prayers are with you P. nod


Well, if it's any consolation to you, those rumors are full of baloney.

If you can't attest to the validity of your own words, then why say them at all? confuse
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Reply #95 posted 10/17/05 3:26am

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Tessa said:

Papaj said:

Moderators confirmed Prince is not planning on taking any surgery.




I'm sure it's NPGMC moderators he consults when making major medical decisions.


That's Doctor PP9 to you...

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Reply #96 posted 10/17/05 8:10am

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Simple as Prince to stop wearing the high heels everyday to give his joints a rest. I'm sure that he comfortable with his height at this age so he shouldn't have a problem wearing flat shoes. If he wants to avoid surgery, this would be the thing to do.
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Reply #97 posted 10/17/05 8:56am

Novabreaker

High heels are unhealthy? Damn.

Even with the risque of being a total jackass it is kinda funny, because I've never seen this kind of condition been reported on a celebrity woman.
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Reply #98 posted 10/17/05 9:00am

Planters

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Three cheers for Prince

Hip Hip....Replacement!





Sorry




NOW THAT'S FUNNY!!!
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Reply #99 posted 10/17/05 9:01am

Serena

Novabreaker said:

High heels are unhealthy? Damn.

Even with the risque of being a total jackass it is kinda funny, because I've never seen this kind of condition been reported on a celebrity woman.



how many celebrity women do what Prince does in high heels for 20+ years? Splits, jumping off pianos, running, etc.??
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Reply #100 posted 10/17/05 9:02am

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Tessa said:

Papaj said:

Moderators confirmed Prince is not planning on taking any surgery.


I'm sure it's NPGMC moderators he consults when making major medical decisions.


It seems pretty darn likely that at least some of the NPGMC mods have direct contact with Prince. So they've got a heck of a lot more authority than the Inquirer, it's spinoffs and our little authoritive tid-bits!
Life it ain't real funky unless you got that orgPop.
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Reply #101 posted 10/17/05 9:46am

MIGUELGOMEZ

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Anxiety said:



beer batter drool

beer battered prince barf




With Tartar sauce.....mmmmm!!!



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MyeternalgrattitudetoPhil&Val.Herman said "We want sweaty truckers at the truck stop! We want cigar puffing men that look like they wanna beat the living daylights out of us" Val"sporking is spooning with benefits"
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Reply #102 posted 10/17/05 10:50am

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omg No!!! My baby in pain! bawl Oh, lawd, oh lawd why...? fit


fit bawl The inhumanity of it all. bawl fit bawl

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Reply #103 posted 10/17/05 11:05am

morningsong

Okay, now that's out my system...

Agreed.

MrsJimmyFallon said:


No, it doesn't answer the question, but personally I don't think Prince needs to tell his fans if he's in need of surgery or not. That's his private business.

And anyway even if he does need surgery, I never expected anything else but a denial about it from the PP camp; Prince doesn't like to a) discuss/publicize/advertise his personal life [yeah, yeah, i remember the whole Mayte thing. i think he learned his lesson from that! but before her and the marriage and pregnancy, he never let on much directly regarding his personal life and i think he'd never behave again the way he did when he was with her] and b) it's my opinion that Prince doesn't EVER, if he can possibly help it, want to let it be known he has suffering and issues and imperfections and flaws in his life and his body. He seems to always want to project an image of complete health, happiness and control in all aspects of himself and his life. The last thing (IMO) that he'd want to do is publically admit to everyone his body ain't perfect, and that he - PRINCE! - requires an "old man" surgery such as a hip replacement -- a situation which would also impinge upon his Princeā„¢ persona..i.e. the high heels (would probably not be able to do that after a hip replacement) and the dancing.

A hip replacement is a major surgery and there's a lot to consider regarding it for the person to whom its recommended. It might take Prince awhile to come to terms with it or decide what is REALLY the best thing for him to do in regards to his health.

The eyeroll at the end of PP9's comment -- I dunno. Spin control, probably. Or, this entire rumor is totally bunk (tho I think there's truth to it, based on Prince's behavior in recent years, like the lower heeled shoes, the no dancing, etc)

Whatever. I just wish Prince the best of health, and hope he isn't living with pain.
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Reply #104 posted 10/17/05 1:44pm

MrsJimmyFallon

joyinrepetition said:

Simple as Prince to stop wearing the high heels everyday to give his joints a rest. I'm sure that he comfortable with his height at this age so he shouldn't have a problem wearing flat shoes. If he wants to avoid surgery, this would be the thing to do.


Erm, not really, it's not that simple.

if many years of high-heel wearing has already caused damage to a person's joints, that damage cant be REVERSED by just not wearing heels anymore. he'd still be in pain, as the damage is already done. it's not going just to "heal up" and quit hurting.

do you understand the *cause* of joint pain, in a situation such as Prince's (IF his situation true, that is..?)? in a simplified nutshell, it's this: the heels throw the body's center of gravity off and cause the person to stand in an unnatural position/alignment -- their hips, their spine, their feet, etc. when this happens, the hip joint rubs against itself in its socket; the result of many, many years of this abuse to the joint and the cartilidge inside that joint is slowly worn away because the joint is not moving freely the way it was designed to. when the cartilidge is worn down, the joint can't move smoothly and freely the way its supposed to and the joint (bones) rub up against one another, not having the cartilidge as a cushion anymore. THAT is what causes the pain and inflammation to the person. the reason a hip replacement takes AWAY that pain is that the doctor takes that joint apart, cleans out all the damaged bone and any remaining cartilidge and installs a prosthetic joint that can move freely and is not allowing bone-on-bone friction. VOILA -- no more pain to the patient, and better mobility of the joint.

as for the questions about the validity of the possiblity of Prince having this condition when it doesn't seem to happen to other women who wear heels -- consider these two factors: 1) most women don't wear heels as long or as OFTEN as Prince did/does, and probably haven't danced and performed so vigorously in them as he has for as many years as he has; 2) Prince's body could be just predisposed to this sort of condition, and he didn't help the situation by having worn heels so much for so long. how come some people can be 2 pack a day smokers and not get lung cancer? who knows. everyone is different in how THEIR BODY will respond or react to a particular thing.

here are a couple websites that describe in better detail about total hip replacement, and about living with a hip replacement, if anybody's interested:

http://www.niams.nih.gov/...prepqa.htm

http://orthoinfo.aaos.org...tegory=Hip

all that said, again i say -- maybe this rumor about P is untrue, maybe it isn't. but i personally think its silly for people to dismiss it so entirely when you look realistically at what's transpired in Prince's life. it makes sense to me, and all i hope is that Prince does whatever's necessary to feel well again.
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Reply #105 posted 10/17/05 2:10pm

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I still cannot believe it. hmph!
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Reply #106 posted 10/17/05 2:17pm

beret1022

MrsJimmyFallon said:

joyinrepetition said:

Simple as Prince to stop wearing the high heels everyday to give his joints a rest. I'm sure that he comfortable with his height at this age so he shouldn't have a problem wearing flat shoes. If he wants to avoid surgery, this would be the thing to do.


Erm, not really, it's not that simple.

if many years of high-heel wearing has already caused damage to a person's joints, that damage cant be REVERSED by just not wearing heels anymore. he'd still be in pain, as the damage is already done. it's not going just to "heal up" and quit hurting.

do you understand the *cause* of joint pain, in a situation such as Prince's (IF his situation true, that is..?)? in a simplified nutshell, it's this: the heels throw the body's center of gravity off and cause the person to stand in an unnatural position/alignment -- their hips, their spine, their feet, etc. when this happens, the hip joint rubs against itself in its socket; the result of many, many years of this abuse to the joint and the cartilidge inside that joint is slowly worn away because the joint is not moving freely the way it was designed to. when the cartilidge is worn down, the joint can't move smoothly and freely the way its supposed to and the joint (bones) rub up against one another, not having the cartilidge as a cushion anymore. THAT is what causes the pain and inflammation to the person. the reason a hip replacement takes AWAY that pain is that the doctor takes that joint apart, cleans out all the damaged bone and any remaining cartilidge and installs a prosthetic joint that can move freely and is not allowing bone-on-bone friction. VOILA -- no more pain to the patient, and better mobility of the joint.

as for the questions about the validity of the possiblity of Prince having this condition when it doesn't seem to happen to other women who wear heels -- consider these two factors: 1) most women don't wear heels as long or as OFTEN as Prince did/does, and probably haven't danced and performed so vigorously in them as he has for as many years as he has; 2) Prince's body could be just predisposed to this sort of condition, and he didn't help the situation by having worn heels so much for so long. how come some people can be 2 pack a day smokers and not get lung cancer? who knows. everyone is different in how THEIR BODY will respond or react to a particular thing.

here are a couple websites that describe in better detail about total hip replacement, and about living with a hip replacement, if anybody's interested:

http://www.niams.nih.gov/...prepqa.htm

http://orthoinfo.aaos.org...tegory=Hip

all that said, again i say -- maybe this rumor about P is untrue, maybe it isn't. but i personally think its silly for people to dismiss it so entirely when you look realistically at what's transpired in Prince's life. it makes sense to me, and all i hope is that Prince does whatever's necessary to feel well again.


It's true. I've been wearing stilettos/heels since I was 14 and at 30, I have knees and back problems like an 80 year old.
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Reply #107 posted 10/17/05 2:32pm

Zelaira

Prince can wear Beautiful Chinese Slippers or like those FAMALORES and look all Cool! He doesn't have to wear HIGH HEELS in order to be TALLER or LOOK COOL or Whatever. Prince will ALWAYS be BEAUTIFUL and it's about his MUSIC FIRST. Like I said Prince can even wear Fancy Sneakers and look Cool. It isn't about HEIGHT at ALL! Shorter Men are SEXY! biggrin
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Reply #108 posted 10/17/05 4:11pm

babynoz

MrsJimmyFallon said:

joyinrepetition said:

Simple as Prince to stop wearing the high heels everyday to give his joints a rest. I'm sure that he comfortable with his height at this age so he shouldn't have a problem wearing flat shoes. If he wants to avoid surgery, this would be the thing to do.


Erm, not really, it's not that simple.

if many years of high-heel wearing has already caused damage to a person's joints, that damage cant be REVERSED by just not wearing heels anymore. he'd still be in pain, as the damage is already done. it's not going just to "heal up" and quit hurting.

do you understand the *cause* of joint pain, in a situation such as Prince's (IF his situation true, that is..?)? in a simplified nutshell, it's this: the heels throw the body's center of gravity off and cause the person to stand in an unnatural position/alignment -- their hips, their spine, their feet, etc. when this happens, the hip joint rubs against itself in its socket; the result of many, many years of this abuse to the joint and the cartilidge inside that joint is slowly worn away because the joint is not moving freely the way it was designed to. when the cartilidge is worn down, the joint can't move smoothly and freely the way its supposed to and the joint (bones) rub up against one another, not having the cartilidge as a cushion anymore. THAT is what causes the pain and inflammation to the person. the reason a hip replacement takes AWAY that pain is that the doctor takes that joint apart, cleans out all the damaged bone and any remaining cartilidge and installs a prosthetic joint that can move freely and is not allowing bone-on-bone friction. VOILA -- no more pain to the patient, and better mobility of the joint.

as for the questions about the validity of the possiblity of Prince having this condition when it doesn't seem to happen to other women who wear heels -- consider these two factors: 1) most women don't wear heels as long or as OFTEN as Prince did/does, and probably haven't danced and performed so vigorously in them as he has for as many years as he has; 2) Prince's body could be just predisposed to this sort of condition, and he didn't help the situation by having worn heels so much for so long. how come some people can be 2 pack a day smokers and not get lung cancer? who knows. everyone is different in how THEIR BODY will respond or react to a particular thing.

here are a couple websites that describe in better detail about total hip replacement, and about living with a hip replacement, if anybody's interested:

http://www.niams.nih.gov/...prepqa.htm

http://orthoinfo.aaos.org...tegory=Hip

all that said, again i say -- maybe this rumor about P is untrue, maybe it isn't. but i personally think its silly for people to dismiss it so entirely when you look realistically at what's transpired in Prince's life. it makes sense to me, and all i hope is that Prince does whatever's necessary to feel well again.




Thanks once again for the clarity you bring to the discussion. Not sure why some find this so hard to believe. I have yet to see an official denial that he is experiencing some difficulties. It was stated only that he is not having surgery and would like to keep the issue private.

Your statement about women and heels is right on point as well. Also, as women, (bearers of children) I would tend to think our hip/pelvic area just might be a tad more flexible than that of a man. Would you agree?
Prince, in you I found a kindred spirit...Rest In Paradise.
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Reply #109 posted 10/17/05 5:00pm

MrsJimmyFallon

babynoz said:

Thanks once again for the clarity you bring to the discussion. Not sure why some find this so hard to believe. I have yet to see an official denial that he is experiencing some difficulties. It was stated only that he is not having surgery and would like to keep the issue private.

Your statement about women and heels is right on point as well. Also, as women, (bearers of children) I would tend to think our hip/pelvic area just might be a tad more flexible than that of a man. Would you agree?



thank YOU for your nice response. smile

like you, i also don't really understand why some seem to have difficulty considering the possiblity this situation might be happening to Prince. maybe some folks are uncomfortable with maybe seeing him as human, a man who has frailties and troubles just like everyone else? then there are people who just cannot handle the idea of health problems or illness because they view such as a 'weakness' or a flaw, which certainly isn't so. shrug i dunno. but in recent years Prince been seen using a cane, wearing flat soled shoes instead of the heels, not dancing as much, etc...all of which are listed (on that first medical site i linked to in my previous post) as suggestions for a patient to try before seriously contemplating surgery.

i don't know enough about joint disease or the physiology behind it all, but your theory about women's hips being able to take the stress of high heels more so than men's could have validity. we ARE definitely built differently in that area than are men, so i suppose it could make sense that because the angles and such are slightly different than how a man's hips/pelvis/joints are, the stress might be worse/better for one gender than the other. it's a good thought, anyhow -- i'm going to ask my mother about it when i speak to her next and see what she says.

and yep, i agree that if Prince is possibly having to deal with the surgery issue -- or any medical issue, for that matter -- it's his business. he doesn't owe us fans any explaination or confirmation about it.

i just want him to not be in pain. heart
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Reply #110 posted 10/17/05 5:09pm

Zelaira

If he really NEEDS this he better listen to the Doctors.Manuela should convince him that it's for the best. We wouldn't want him to NOT be able to WALK at all.
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Reply #111 posted 10/17/05 5:32pm

Illustrator

"Don't believe the hip!"

(Apologies to Public Enemy.)
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Reply #112 posted 10/17/05 7:56pm

babynoz

Prince, in you I found a kindred spirit...Rest In Paradise.
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Reply #113 posted 10/17/05 8:04pm

babynoz

I kinda cringe a little now thinking of some of his more acrobatic performances like the 8 splits in a row on the Rave dvd because I want him to not be in pain too. If it's not true that would be great, but I think I'll just keep saying my little prayers anyway.
Prince, in you I found a kindred spirit...Rest In Paradise.
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Reply #114 posted 10/18/05 5:06am

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MrsJimmyFallon said:[quote]

babynoz said:

Thanks once again for the clarity you bring to the discussion. Not sure why some find this so hard to believe. I have yet to see an official denial that he is experiencing some difficulties. It was stated only that he is not having surgery and would like to keep the issue private.


See, this is what I say about Chinese Whispers! I don't recall it was ever stated that he 'would like to keep the issue private' - you're just assuming that and adding it on.

As for an official response, well it would be nice, but Prince rarely if ever responds to media speculation. If he did that, where would it stop? We'd expect Prince to respond to every little bit of tabloid gossip, and when he didn't bother we'd assume the gossip must be true - just like people are doing now.

Hardly any information comes out of Prince's camp at the best of times - it seems strange that something as confidential as medical information has made it's way out, if indeed it has.

There's no way of knowing as yet whether this story is true or not. It could well be. But what I find funny is that it was reported weeks ago on this site and no one was that bothered:

http://www.prince.org/msg/7/162590

The first mention of this subject I'm aware of was by CJ in her column. Now, most fans don't usually take her 'gossip' seriously. But weeks later when the National Enquirer and then other media took up EXACTLY THE SAME STORY suddenly everyone is taking it seriously - if seven people repeat the same gossip, it doesn't suddenly make it any more true.

I wouldn't be that surprised if the 'close source' the newspapers mentions in fact turns out to be CJ! Since Prince wrote a song about her, they probably think they are close or something!
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Reply #115 posted 10/18/05 5:21am

gyro34

call Calling Prince...

Whether it's true, whether it's false, take care of yourself. I am eternally thankful for all the beautiful and life-changing music that you've composed. If you have to wear comfy shoes, wear them. If you have to dance less onstage, do so. I am still a fan now and forvever more. Love ya so much.
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Reply #116 posted 10/18/05 5:24am

gyro34

Somebody ship CJ off to the North Pole! Let's see if she can survive the adverse weather and living conditions over there. Man, I hate that bitch!
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Reply #117 posted 10/18/05 5:36am

DavidEye

I heard this news on the radio yesterday.One of our local radio stations reported it during the entertainment news segment.It's amazing how many people in the media are reporting this story without even verifying the source or questioning the authenticity of it,lol.
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Reply #118 posted 10/18/05 5:37am

DavidEye

but if this story is true,let's all wish Prince the best.Forget a new album or a tour,I care more about his health.
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Reply #119 posted 10/18/05 5:38am

DavidEye

gyro34 said:

Somebody ship CJ off to the North Pole! Let's see if she can survive the adverse weather and living conditions over there. Man, I hate that bitch!
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