In PRINCE, IMP OF THE PERVERSE, a scheduled meeting between Prince and Bob is described.

In it, Prince is introduced to Bob after a show and shows up in G-string and the works. Bob took one look at our little cricket and said, "What a battyman is dis?"

Apparently, some1 somewhere envisioned the 2 working 2gether .

LAWD, if it happened, can ya'll imagine what kind of crazay, interesting yet funky-reggae-funk it might have been?

Peace ya'll. Light a big joint as well!

I'm sorry but i just CANNOT see that shit happening. For those of you who wonder, "battyman" being Jamaican slang for "homosexual".

Battyman HAHA! Anyway if they ever made music together it would surely be nice!

it may have been interesting, but i'm kinna glad that they ended up not doing a project together. pretty sad that bob got put off merely from ol' boy's appearance.

They did meet after Prince's show in L.A. at the Roxy Nov.28th 1979, the meeting was arranged by Bob Marley's manager Don Taylor who was toying with the idea of them doing a song 2gether, but after seeing Prince in his outfit, (not really a g- string though) he was uncomfortable. Here's a picture below of the outfit he wore around this time period.

Oliver said:

I'm sure I'll take alot of shit for this,but I've never really been into Bob,I
know so many people who are and I just never "got it"

JAMIESTARR said:

dON'T FEEL BAD, I KINDA UNDERSTAND. tO ME, HE'S LIKE MOST OF THE PEOPLE OUT THERE...I LIKE SOME OF THEIR STUFF BUT I'M NOT A FAN IN GENERAL. (SORRY FOR THE CAPS, I'M AT WORK AND IT'S A NECCESSITY CONSIDERING I'M SUPPOSED TO BE WORKING!)

NPG2045 said:

Yep.

Both legends mon! But u cant mix the two appareently Bob couldnt work out the leopardshin phase Prince was going thru. Some Rasta and Reggae singers are quite proud of their machismo and generally don't do fancy dress. Also Prince sounds nothing like reggae. Blue light.. right!!

I wouldn't have worked with him either. He looked ridiculous back then. He was just a wannabe Rick James at that point. Bob was already a legend.

I have to add that realistically, no...it wouldn't have worked w/ Prince and Bob - many reasons sited by ya'll.

At the time, I do think in the long run, Bob's music will have a stronger impact on the world than Prince's.

Yes, Prince was acknowledged in the HOFame, but there're not many people out there who have gone through high school without listening and respecting Bob.

I'm willing 2 constructively debate this. 1ness and 2love ya'll!

Theres no way Bob Marley would work with Prince as in Reggae culture Prince is abattyman and/or a chichi (gay) as u know a ragga singer called Buju Banton is on trial for the serious assault of several gays.
Rastas won't even recognise gays or people suspected to be like them. But who cares, dope smoking dosent appeal 2 Prince either.

whodknee said:

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Good Lord. The ignorance of that statement.P was blowing Rick James out of the water at that time and Dirty Mind is really the begining of his carreer.

Rick never had the talent that Prince had and I don't think most of you realize how badly Bob wanted his music to appeal to Black America.

I like some of Bob's and The Walers and Peter Tosh. Now, Tosh worked with Jagger who could be considered FLAMBOYANT . I Don't really Care that they Never Collaberated. The Jamaican view of Homosexuality is that More Male Gay then Lesbian?

Rick never had the talent that Prince had and I don't think most of you realize how badly Bob wanted his music to appeal to Black America.[/quote]


I honestly think you guys have it wrong. The meeting had nothing to do with a collaboration between Bob and Prince. Artists at that time rearly collaborated. And although Bob wanted his audience in Black America to grow, at that time a collaboration with Stevie Wonder or Lionel Ritchie and the Commodores would have made more sense. Both Stevie and Lionel were big fans of Bob and huge in Black America. They even did a few dates together and both Lionel and Stevie wrote quite a few Reggae songs, influenced by their appreciation of Bob and reggae music. For example; "Boogie On Reggae Woman", "Master Blaster" by Stevie and "Se-La" by Lionel. Of course Bob passed before any collaborations were done.

The meeting between Bob and Prince took place because Prince needed a manager and for a brief time considered Don Taylor who was Bob's manager. Don Taylor saw the potential in Prince and felt that whoever worked with him would make a lot of money, but he found Prince difficult to work with and passed.
The meeting is detailed in Taylor's "Marley and Me" but he makes no mention of the words Bob's said.He just said Bob (if I remember correctly) was uncomfortable with Prince when he came out of his dressing room in Bikini briefs, thigh high boots, shirtless, make-up and processed hair. All things which clearly would not be judged appropriate by Bob's strong faith. Let's face it, it was Bob who wrote (paraphrased from the Bible):

Can't tell a woman from a man
Cause they are dressed in the same pollution
Their minds are confused by confusion
To their problems seems there's never no solution
"Midnight Raver" from "Catch a Fire" CD.

I would just like to close by saying Bob to my knowledge is not on record as ever bashing gays. Now, I am not saying he endorsed homosexuality. He probably did not because he believed in a very literal interpretation of the bible. But at the same time, he tended not to target groups. He saw his battles as being more spiritual than that. So although he hated colonialism, oppresion, poverty and racism, he never just saw it as a black vs white contest. He saw it as a struggle against "Spiritual Wickedness". As for Buju Banton, it is quite possible that he is innocent of the charges against him, His case has not come to trial yet and he is entitled to a pressumption of innocence. However, he on the other hand has come straight out with anti-gay lyrics. And rather violent lyrics too. But Buju Banton and Bob Marley...two very different men.

DonRants said:

I honestly think you guys have it wrong. The meeting had nothing to do with a collaboration between Bob and Prince. Artists at that time rearly collaborated. And although Bob wanted his audience in Black America to grow, at that time a collaboration with Stevie Wonder or Lionel Ritchie and the Commodores would have made more sense. Both Stevie and Lionel were big fans of Bob and huge in Black America. They even did a few dates together and both Lionel and Stevie wrote quite a few Reggae songs, influenced by their appreciation of Bob and reggae music. For example; "Boogie On Reggae Woman", "Master Blaster" by Stevie and "Se-La" by Lionel. Of course Bob passed before any collaborations were done.

The meeting between Bob and Prince took place because Prince needed a manager and for a brief time considered Don Taylor who was Bob's manager. Don Taylor saw the potential in Prince and felt that whoever worked with him would make a lot of money, but he found Prince difficult to work with and passed.
The meeting is detailed in Taylor's "Marley and Me" but he makes no mention of the words Bob's said.He just said Bob (if I remember correctly) was uncomfortable with Prince when he came out of his dressing room in Bikini briefs, thigh high boots, shirtless, make-up and processed hair. All things which clearly would not be judged appropriate by Bob's strong faith. Let's face it, it was Bob who wrote (paraphrased from the Bible):

Can't tell a woman from a man
Cause they are dressed in the same pollution
Their minds are confused by confusion
To their problems seems there's never no solution
"Midnight Raver" from "Catch a Fire" CD.

I would just like to close by saying Bob to my knowledge is not on record as ever bashing gays. Now, I am not saying he endorsed homosexuality. He probably did not because he believed in a very literal interpretation of the bible. But at the same time, he tended not to target groups. He saw his battles as being more spiritual than that. So although he hated colonialism, oppresion, poverty and racism, he never just saw it as a black vs white contest. He saw it as a struggle against "Spiritual Wickedness". As for Buju Banton, it is quite possible that he is innocent of the charges against him, His case has not come to trial yet and he is entitled to a pressumption of innocence. However, he on the other hand has come straight out with anti-gay lyrics. And rather violent lyrics too. But Buju Banton and Bob Marley...two very different men.[/quote]
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Artists at that time rearly collaborated.(WTF)

What was Stevie Wonder during when he wrote Try Jah Love for Third World in 1982. I could go on and on but I will not waste my time.

In addtion, Chris Blackwell and others who worked at Island have gone on record to say the Bob was very disappointed that he could not get a big African-American following in the USA.

A direct result of this is "Could You Be Loved" an attempt to get on black radio. P was becoming a hugh RnB star it would have made sense if they got together to do something.

I guess some of you don't realize the P was selling out 15,000,00 seat venue during the first leg of the 1999 tour. P was a star in the RnB world before he started to have an appeal as a pop star.

>>>>> time rearly collaborated.(WTF)

What was Stevie Wonder during when he wrote Try Jah Love for Third World in 1982. I could go on and on but I will not waste my time.
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Yes that was after Bob, Like I said, if Bob was to collaborate it would have been with Stevie or the Comodores. Not Prince. If you understood Rastafarianism then you would understand that there is no way. Bob did not even like the women around him to wear make-up, much less another man.

In addtion, Chris Blackwell and others who worked at Island have gone on record to say the Bob was very disappointed that he could not get a big African-American following in the USA.
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True, but he would not compromise his music or his values to do it. He had ten albums with Island. No collaborations. Who know's what the future held? But something tells me not Prince.


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A direct result of this is "Could You Be Loved" an attempt to get on black radio. P was becoming a hugh RnB star it would have made sense if they got together to do something.

I guess some of you don't realize the P was selling out 15,000,00 seat venue during the first leg of the 1999 tour. P was a star in the RnB world before he started to have an appeal as a pop star.[/quote]
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1999 was released in 1982. Bob had already died. I am not slamming Prince. And I am not slamming you. I am just looking at the time and what was happening. Also if there was plans of a collaboration, don't you think Don Taylor would mentioned it in his book? He was the one who introduced them, after all.

Browntree007 said:

i am SOOO gonna be using that word!

i can see why bob would be put off tho, i mean even tho i love it now, when i first saw him in - odd attire - it knocked me on my ass

DonRants said:

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1999 was released in 1982. Bob had already died. I am not slamming Prince. And I am not slamming you. I am just looking at the time and what was happening. Also if there was plans of a collaboration, don't you think Don Taylor would mentioned it in his book? He was the one who introduced them, after all.[/quote]
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I know when the hell 1999 came out. What I am telling you is that P was an upcoming star in the black community and Bob wanted African-Americans to hear his music. It would only be a few years before P would blow up big. I would have to go back and read Don Taylor's book. It has been a long time but, my guess is he wanted to be P manager don't you think hooking them up might have been in the pipeline.

I also am taking some of this info from Chris Blackwell's comments. Don't you think the President of Island records would know the direction they wanted Bob's carreer to go in.

DonRants said:

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1999 was released in 1982. Bob had already died. I am not slamming Prince. And I am not slamming you. I am just looking at the time and what was happening. Also if there was plans of a collaboration, don't you think Don Taylor would mentioned it in his book? He was the one who introduced them, after all.[/quote]
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"True, but he would not compromise his music or his values to do it. He had ten albums with Island. No collaborations. Who know's what the future held? But something tells me not Prince. "

How do you know that. ??? Can you honestly say that Bob would not have colloborated with other artist to get his music over. You don't know what would have happened.

Most artist will do what they have to get their music over. Don't make Bob out to be any different. You need to put the Bob Kool-Aid down and go read Rita Marley's book Bob was no saint.

Moonwalkbjrain said:

It is an incredibly deragatory term. It's on par with "faggot", so you might want to think twice before you go around saying it.

JediMaster said:

Along the lines of Bumbo Klaat

Moonwalkbjrain said:

WTF? Are you serious?

BananaCologne said:

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yes, she is serious . The homophobia on this board is unreal sometimes and all this over a guy standing around in his underware.

I could see Bob Marley collaborating with Stevie Wonder or Eric Clapton.

Prince, I'm not sure.


One thing for sure, there's no way Peter Tosh would collaborate with Prince.

Krytonite said:

I could see Prince collaborating with Marley, but not at that point in his career. If Marley had lived to see the Parade days, then it could have happened.

laurarichardson said:

excuse me?

what part of my post did u find homophobic? the battyman part or the part where i say his odd attire knocked me on my ass?

sorry if YOU find that homophobic, but i dont. i'm not gonna sit up here and act like its just a regular ol thang 4 me to see some dude struttin round in his draws, cuz its not, maybe in ur life it is, but not in mine.

second as for the battyman part i didnt mean it in a screwed up way - i think battyman sounds funny and i know it'll trip my friends out if i called them that and then they find out i said their homo's, not trynna say that being gay is bad, but as being funny. however since i see my other post didnt show up i'll say it again, since i know battyman is equivalent to faggot (which i dont like) i wont be saying it. now, as i was saying, what part of my post is homophobic?

I don't really think Bob Marley had a great impact on the music world today. Most of his music was simple, it's just fun music to lounge around to. Most of the listeners are just pot smoking pseudo-hippies.

While Prince on the other hand, has complex music and just about every major musician says that he's a genius.

jace said:

I'd have to disagree. Marley's stuff was extremely influencial. The entire Ska movement was influenced by Marley, and bands from The Police to No Doubt owe Bob and The Wailers a debt.

Bob also had a powerful message to his music that resonates with a whole lot of musicians today. Prince himself has referenced "Get Up, Stand Up" in concert more than once.

JediMaster said:

JediMaster you are so right."Most of the listeners are just pot smoking pseudo-hippies?" In addition to Bob's musical influence, Bob's music has tremendous social and political impact. When Zimbabwe won its war for Liberation..who did they call? Bob. When Namibia won its Independence, who did they call? Ziggy (Bob's son). Bob lyrics are without a doubt some of the strongest of all time. And it is not pseudo-hippy stuff. It is the stuff of which Revolutions are made of. No kidding.
Yes Bob smoked marijuana, but he was much more than that. Do you drink alchohol? Well Bob would have something to say to you about that. He had a religious believe system which made smoking marijuana a part of his spiritual practice. I will not judge it. Certainly not by Western (Babylon System)hippocritical laws and practices
But to compare Prince and Bob, Again apples and oranges. Both great. Both different.
I will tell you a true story. A Jamaican friend(an actor) I knew (haven't spoken to him in years) once met Prince in the late 1980s. He said that Prince spoke in a breathy, whispery type of voice. Too quite for his liking, but when Prince asked him where he was from because of his accent and he replied Jamaica. Prince came to life and plugged him with question after question about Bob Marley as well as telling him what he knew. He said he was impressed by how much Prince knew about Bob. Who knew? So is Prince a marijuana-smoking psuedo-hippie?