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Thread started 10/05/05 6:40am

booyah

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Released versions of tracks with minor differences from album versions

OK, that isn't a very eye-catching title. I don't know how else to name this bunch of tracks.

I'm thinking of putting together a CDR of the tracks that have been released (most commonly in single form) with minor differences from the album versions - that is to say, they would not be included on remix compilations, but they're also not simple edits. This is especially common when the album version segues into another track, but is most commonly known by the slight differences between NPGMC downloads and the TCI/Slaughterhouse versions. Here's what I can think of off the top of my head:

Still Waiting (original vinyl version) - longer intro than on CD pressings
I Would Die 4 U (single version) - final ending not included on Purple Rain (where it joins on to Baby I'm A Star)
Hello (Hits/B-Sides version) - different ending, not simply an edit of full-length version.
Kiss (single version) - additional guitar fade-out not included on Parade
Cream (maxi-single version) - phone conversation segue not a separate track, but not included on Diamonds And Pearls
My Name Is Prince (single version) - piano intro not overlaid on the prince album intro
The Most Beautiful Girl In The World (single version) - debatable whether this could be considered a remix (especially because it was the original, with the Gold Experience version being the remix), but it can find a home on this mix
Letitgo (single version) - instrumental intro not overlaid onto the Come album segue
Space (single version) - intro not overlaid onto the end of Come as on the album
I Hate U (full-length single version) - album length, but does not have the NPG Operator talking over the intro (thanks, Scififilmnerd)
The Work Pt. 1 (2001 download version) - slight differences in solos from the Rainbow Children album version
Judas Smile (2001 download version) - slight differences from the Chocolate Invasion album version
Sex Me, Sex Me Not (2001 download version) - slight differences from the Chocolate Invasion album version (not simply an 'edit', even though this is likely the original version)

That's all I can think of so far. I'm not including tracks like Copenhagen, Silicon and S&M Groove, which were originally available in longer forms than their album counterparts - these would be included on an 'extended versions' compilation.

All in all this will be quite an enjoyable little collection. What tracks am I missing?

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Reply #1 posted 10/05/05 6:53am

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Off the top of my head, the single version of 'The Work Pt 1.' is slightly different from the version released on 'The Rainbow Children'.

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Reply #2 posted 10/05/05 6:58am

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5 Women (unedited) Includes short guitar intro not found on the vault.

Emancipation (alternate mix) - Guitar and bass are missing but extra keyboards are present, slightly longer than album version.

Darling Nikki (unreleased version) - Different ending than purple rain version.

Cant think of anymore at the minute.
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Reply #3 posted 10/05/05 7:00am

Novabreaker

langebleu said:

Off the top of my head, the single version of 'The Work Pt 1.' is slightly different from the version released on 'The Rainbow Children'.

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Yeah I've noted that too. I wonder why the changes were made? Just for the sakes of making it a different version than the Napster download?
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Reply #4 posted 10/05/05 7:03am

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Novabreaker said:

langebleu said:

Off the top of my head, the single version of 'The Work Pt 1.' is slightly different from the version released on 'The Rainbow Children'.

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Yeah I've noted that too. I wonder why the changes were made? Just for the sakes of making it a different version than the Napster download?


it surprised me too, especially since they made such a fuss about
the first version and prince playing the rhodes and guitar solo's
at the same simultanious.
and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
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Reply #5 posted 10/05/05 7:04am

booyah

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langebleu said:

Off the top of my head, the single version of 'The Work Pt 1.' is slightly different from the version released on 'The Rainbow Children'.

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You're right. I'd forgotten that. I'll add it.
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Reply #6 posted 10/05/05 7:04am

booyah

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FunkJam said:

5 Women (unedited) Includes short guitar intro not found on the vault.

Emancipation (alternate mix) - Guitar and bass are missing but extra keyboards are present, slightly longer than album version.

Darling Nikki (unreleased version) - Different ending than purple rain version.

Cant think of anymore at the minute.


You're right. I'm thinking of released tracks only, though.
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Reply #7 posted 10/05/05 7:07am

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I guess in a way you could argue that "I Hate U" on the single release
lacks the operator asking "you have just accessed the hate experience,
do you wish to change your entry? very well, please enjoy ur exp" than
again that's not really the kind of difference you're after I think.

Also, the Party Man single version has those tidbits from the video in
it, including the insane laughter at the end.

smile
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Reply #8 posted 10/05/05 7:22am

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The Gett Off cd single differs quite a bit from the album version.
I've always hated that since the album version doesn't have that
"do it in the kitchen on the floor, in the bathroom standing...."
verse.

But I'm still confused about what version came from where with
the cd single, the cd maxi single, the video single, the casette
and then the album version

nuts
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Reply #9 posted 10/05/05 7:26am

Novabreaker

IstenSzek said:

The Gett Off cd single differs quite a bit from the album version.
I've always hated that since the album version doesn't have that
"do it in the kitchen on the floor, in the bathroom standing...."
verse.

But I'm still confused about what version came from where with
the cd single, the cd maxi single, the video single, the casette
and then the album version

nuts


I have the napster version.
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Reply #10 posted 10/05/05 7:46am

IstenSzek

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Novabreaker said:

IstenSzek said:

The Gett Off cd single differs quite a bit from the album version.
I've always hated that since the album version doesn't have that
"do it in the kitchen on the floor, in the bathroom standing...."
verse.

But I'm still confused about what version came from where with
the cd single, the cd maxi single, the video single, the casette
and then the album version

nuts


I have the napster version.


there was a napster version?

falloff
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Reply #11 posted 10/05/05 8:52am

booyah

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IstenSzek said:

I guess in a way you could argue that "I Hate U" on the single release
lacks the operator asking "you have just accessed the hate experience,
do you wish to change your entry? very well, please enjoy ur exp" than
again that's not really the kind of difference you're after I think.

Also, the Party Man single version has those tidbits from the video in
it, including the insane laughter at the end.

smile
[Edited 10/5/05 7:09am]


If I remember correctly (and I may not), I Hate U is just an edit - is that right?

The Partyman single version you're talking about is the Video Version, I think - basically an extended version. There is the version on the Peach CD single, however, but I think that just removes Jack Nicholson's opening lines, "Gentlemen! Let's broaden our minds. Laurence..."
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Reply #12 posted 10/05/05 8:54am

booyah

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IstenSzek said:

The Gett Off cd single differs quite a bit from the album version.
I've always hated that since the album version doesn't have that
"do it in the kitchen on the floor, in the bathroom standing...."
verse.

But I'm still confused about what version came from where with
the cd single, the cd maxi single, the video single, the casette
and then the album version

nuts


Again, I think this is an extended version, and would belong on a different compilation along with things like America (extended), U Got The Look (Long Look), and Copenhagen (complete with Jean-Pierre samples), along with many others...
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Reply #13 posted 10/05/05 8:56am

Anxiety

The 7" version of "Hello" on The Hits/The B-Sides is quite a bit different than the original U.S. 7-inch b-side of "Pop Life". Maybe what wound up on the comp was a U.K. edit, I dunno...Langebleu?
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Reply #14 posted 10/05/05 9:27am

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langebleu said:

Off the top of my head, the single version of 'The Work Pt 1.' is slightly different from the version released on 'The Rainbow Children'.

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is there ever gonna be a part 2? confuse
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Reply #15 posted 10/05/05 10:20am

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Anxiety said:

The 7" version of "Hello" on The Hits/The B-Sides is quite a bit different than the original U.S. 7-inch b-side of "Pop Life". Maybe what wound up on the comp was a U.K. edit, I dunno...Langebleu?

?

I had always thought that the version of 'Hello' on the B-side of the US release of 'Pop Life' was the same version as that released on the B-side of the UK release of 'Raspberry Beret', and the only significant difference between the longer 12" versions was down to the name (US = Fresh Dance Mix / UK = Extended Remix).

Might need to have a relisten ...




... which means getting out the turntable!
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Reply #16 posted 10/05/05 11:00am

Anxiety

langebleu said:

Anxiety said:

The 7" version of "Hello" on The Hits/The B-Sides is quite a bit different than the original U.S. 7-inch b-side of "Pop Life". Maybe what wound up on the comp was a U.K. edit, I dunno...Langebleu?

?

I had always thought that the version of 'Hello' on the B-side of the US release of 'Pop Life' was the same version as that released on the B-side of the UK release of 'Raspberry Beret', and the only significant difference between the longer 12" versions was down to the name (US = Fresh Dance Mix / UK = Extended Remix).

Might need to have a relisten ...




... which means getting out the turntable!


i never heard the version of 'hello' on the UK 'raspberry beret' single, so you may be right. i've only ever heard the US 7" and 12" versions, and neither sound like what's on the hits/b-sides...there's some weird editing going on, and there's a bit of a guitar riff at the end that i don't think is on either of the US versions, or else it's edited in out-of-place.
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Reply #17 posted 10/05/05 12:51pm

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booyah said:

IstenSzek said:

I guess in a way you could argue that "I Hate U" on the single release
lacks the operator asking "you have just accessed the hate experience,
do you wish to change your entry? very well, please enjoy ur exp" than
again that's not really the kind of difference you're after I think.


If I remember correctly (and I may not), I Hate U is just an edit - is that right?


No. That is a full version of Eye Hate U without the NPG Operator talking over it. biggrin
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Reply #18 posted 10/05/05 2:52pm

Jestyr

Anxiety said:

langebleu said:


?

I had always thought that the version of 'Hello' on the B-side of the US release of 'Pop Life' was the same version as that released on the B-side of the UK release of 'Raspberry Beret', and the only significant difference between the longer 12" versions was down to the name (US = Fresh Dance Mix / UK = Extended Remix).

Might need to have a relisten ...




... which means getting out the turntable!


i never heard the version of 'hello' on the UK 'raspberry beret' single, so you may be right. i've only ever heard the US 7" and 12" versions, and neither sound like what's on the hits/b-sides...there's some weird editing going on, and there's a bit of a guitar riff at the end that i don't think is on either of the US versions, or else it's edited in out-of-place.


The 7" vinyl and the Hits/B-Sides track are identical, Anx.
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Jestyr said:

Anxiety said:



i never heard the version of 'hello' on the UK 'raspberry beret' single, so you may be right. i've only ever heard the US 7" and 12" versions, and neither sound like what's on the hits/b-sides...there's some weird editing going on, and there's a bit of a guitar riff at the end that i don't think is on either of the US versions, or else it's edited in out-of-place.


The 7" vinyl and the Hits/B-Sides track are identical, Anx.

Thanks, Jestyr.

(Saves me getting the turntable out this weekend)
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Reply #20 posted 10/05/05 3:13pm

shaomi

very interesting topic.

please continue the experience smile

Should we include the alternate version on still waiting (i think it's that song, i always 4get) on the vinyl version of the album (longer than the CD version)
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Reply #21 posted 10/05/05 4:28pm

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Hmmm. I'm not sure if you'd really consider it an album track or not but besides going on longer than the B-sides versions, both Another Lonely Christmas and La,La,La,He,He,Hee have extra verses inserted on the 12 inch versions.

Well, ALC has an extra verse,I know Prince sings a lyric slightly differently during one of the chorus of La,La...
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Reply #22 posted 10/05/05 4:45pm

shaomi

sitruk7 said:

Hmmm. I'm not sure if you'd really consider it an album track or not but besides going on longer than the B-sides versions, both Another Lonely Christmas and La,La,La,He,He,Hee have extra verses inserted on the 12 inch versions.

Well, ALC has an extra verse,I know Prince sings a lyric slightly differently during one of the chorus of La,La...


This would concern most of The B-Sides songs but these actually r "extended versions"
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Reply #23 posted 10/06/05 7:32am

Anxiety

Jestyr said:

Anxiety said:



i never heard the version of 'hello' on the UK 'raspberry beret' single, so you may be right. i've only ever heard the US 7" and 12" versions, and neither sound like what's on the hits/b-sides...there's some weird editing going on, and there's a bit of a guitar riff at the end that i don't think is on either of the US versions, or else it's edited in out-of-place.


The 7" vinyl and the Hits/B-Sides track are identical, Anx.


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Reply #24 posted 10/06/05 7:41am

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scififilmnerd said:

booyah said:



If I remember correctly (and I may not), I Hate U is just an edit - is that right?


No. That is a full version of Eye Hate U without the NPG Operator talking over it. biggrin


I don't think the single version had the "state your name for the court, nevermind--Billy Jack Bitch" part in it. I remember buying the single and noticing that was missing.
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Reply #25 posted 10/06/05 7:43am

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Anxiety said:

Jestyr said:



The 7" vinyl and the Hits/B-Sides track are identical, Anx.


Not mine.


This thread is the first I've ever heard of this - are both "short" versions just different edits of the extended version (as with the two Pink Cashmere edits available on the European 4-track PC single)? What are the specific differences?
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Reply #26 posted 10/06/05 7:43am

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TheBigBang said:

scififilmnerd said:



No. That is a full version of Eye Hate U without the NPG Operator talking over it. biggrin


I don't think the single version had the "state your name for the court, nevermind--Billy Jack Bitch" part in it. I remember buying the single and noticing that was missing.


Right, but that part's just an edit, I think. I'll have to break out the CD single and look into this...
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Reply #27 posted 10/06/05 7:54am

Anxiety

booyah said:

Anxiety said:



Not mine.


This thread is the first I've ever heard of this - are both "short" versions just different edits of the extended version (as with the two Pink Cashmere edits available on the European 4-track PC single)? What are the specific differences?


the 7" vinyl version i own (and back in the day i lived near a wrecka stow, so i used to get my prince singles the week they came out) was just an edit of the 12" US vinyl version that ended with the "hello, hello, hello" vocal bit edited into the end. the supposed 7" version on the hits/the b-sides has a bit of a guitar lick edited into the end, and it fades out. there are other weird edits in the hits/b-sides version, but i'd have to listen to both versions again to point out the specifics. the ending is the biggest difference i can recall, but the two are indeed different versions.
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booyah said:

TheBigBang said:



I don't think the single version had the "state your name for the court, nevermind--Billy Jack Bitch" part in it. I remember buying the single and noticing that was missing.


Right, but that part's just an edit, I think. I'll have to break out the CD single and look into this...


Yep. There are two edits, a quiet night mix, an extended remix - and then there's Eye Hate U without the NPG Operator talking over it. nod
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Reply #29 posted 10/06/05 11:24am

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scififilmnerd said:

booyah said:



Right, but that part's just an edit, I think. I'll have to break out the CD single and look into this...


Yep. There are two edits, a quiet night mix, an extended remix - and then there's Eye Hate U without the NPG Operator talking over it. nod


Ah, yes, yes, now I remember - thank you. It's also unique in that you get the full guitar ending, without it cutting off / segueing into the NPG Operator intro for Gold.

I have added this to the list, along with the original vinyl version of Still Waiting (now where I can get this without needing to buy a turntable?)
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