sosgemini said:

that ain't an assumption, that's the god-honest truth. more and more i see people 'round here who want ol' boy to be freeze-dried into whatever picture of constant perfection they see fit. obviously (and thank heavens) not every fan's like that, but those who just want 'im to stay in whatever constant state of "on" they feel comfortable with are playing themselves.


and like i said, that's them. don't expect people to accomplish their efforts in the same vein of others. like i asked, what if it were YOU?

musicology didnt sell?

w/out tickets, it sold a million copies

not too bad

Handclapsfingasnapz said:[quote]

sosgemini said:

its not a matter of staying "on"...when an artist themselves admit they released a sub-par work simply to "reach the masses" isnt that an indication that the artist doesnt care about the quality?

and your right....lars and bjork chose the career paths they wanted....but they always put the art first....prince just admitted that he put commerce first...your okay with that?

im not gonna turn this into a uberfan vs. anything but an uberfan discussion...despite your desires...

sosgemini said:

?!

love

sosgemini said:

no, it simply means what he said. it ain't indicative of 'im starting to "lose it" or whatever.


and you're falling for what he said? huh...you know full-well that the brotha bullshits more than the cat at the club with the faux-silk k-mart joint on who swears up n'down that he owns a rolls when you and he both know gotdamn well he got a '82 honda civic that rides on 2 donut tires.


yer lost.

Handclapsfingasnapz said:

well, im not...id rather discuss my expectations of the music then my expectations of fans...

sosgemini said:

the expectations of both go hand in hand.

Handclapsfingasnapz said:

im willing to accept that other people will have an opposing view to mine..i would never get frustrated, upset or annoyed at other peoples opinions..nor would i declare my opinion ever to be "the truth".

all i know is that i havent listened to musicology after the first try...and i wondered if prince's comments about "reaching the masses" hit a nerve with anyone else....

and from there a discussion can either florish or die...

sosgemini said:

opinion is different than surveillance.


real quick--nowhere in this entire thread have you presented the source for said comments the cat made. that might be a bit helpful, unless you're paraphrasing.

Handclapsfingasnapz said:[quote]

sosgemini said:

im paraphrasing...

sosgemini said:

thought so.

Some albums just don't vibe with us upon 1st listening,
but we find ourselves connecting later...

Y not listen 2 it again, Sos?
That goes 4 u 2, Supa.

love

Handclapsfingasnapz said:

well....its been talked about so often as justification for the albums middle of the road execution....

i thought i had a nice topic for discussion and you had to go run everyone off with your non-uber fan bashing...

sosgemini said:

ain't nobody ran shit off.

Anji said:

oh no..i loved the three songs he shared live (musicology, reflections on tavis smiley and call my name)..but the rest of the album is lacking any energy...FOR ME!

i did my part...i played all the songs via girlbros radio....and one by one the tracks were rated "thumbsdown"..one by one i deleted it from the playlist...the only song that remains is Reflections.

sosgemini said:

so?


again, so what? what do you want for your efforts, a medal?


again...so...?
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CreamyThighs said:

please dont be rude..im just sharing thoughts without thinking....

im just saying that i listened to the individual songs that made up the album and was only impressed with the three songs...

sosgemini said:

who's being rude, dude? I just don't understand your point in pointing out for the millionth time that you didn't dig Musicology? I think we get it already. btw, I don't dig it either...I just think you're nitpicking which is what most W&L fans like to do when it comes to Prince's post Rev stuff.

sosgemini said:

No it doesn't, but it's easier to predict what the general public will like if you keep it "accessable". I have no idea why Prince is making easy listening crap. He's #1 at the bank, he's independant, so why not make the type of shit that will amaze fans and critics?

why not make the type of shit that will amaze fans and critics?[/quote]


...stretching out his career? (as if he needs to)

origmnd said:

Does he need to make watered down shit just to make a few bucks? I said it before and I'll say it again, if an artist isn't hungry anymore, if he doesn't feel like he has a point to make, then he might as well be dead...like Elvis.

CreamyThighs said:

no..no im not..and no, i do believe this is my first musicology thread.....


this was the last album released and i wanted to talk about the music..versus talking about the latest prince fuck...nipple or plastic surgery....

but it seems we cant do that here either without folks getting their panties in a bunch...

Rave was watered down 2, but Prince had intentions on releasing a funkier version.

sosgemini said:

bitch about the music, s'more like it.

Handclapsfingasnapz said:

please dont say im bitching...we are just friends sharing our perspectives.

maybe he's spent

he recorded every thought that came into his head for years. maybe he's just run out of ideas. not saying it's a bad thing but it could be possible. and i'm sure being isolated doesn't leave a lot of room for new ideas to come in.

he should probably start working with other people who aren't just going to yeild to his every whim and maybe get out and live a little bit more instead of ordering whole rooms clear before he comes in.
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origmnd said:

Der.

MANi.

Anji said:

I've given it a fair try, and I find it to be a nice, listenable album. But I'm not going to call it something it's not, which is great. It's simply not one of Prince's better works. Whether or not he put in the effort or not is for him to know and us to guess at if that's what we're concerned with.

I still don't like What Do You Want Me 2 Do? though.

ehuffnsd said:

I agree. Maybe he just needs some new experiences to knock some creativity into him. Like, I dunno. Have him go base jumping and see what he writes after that.

Seriously though....

Well, on the one hand, with all the publicity and hype we heard about Musicology, I just thought that the bar was higher than it actually was. I was expecting a concept album. What I got was a good B-Record, good enough, but not quite like The Rainbow Children or Lovesexy, and I even felt like I used to feel when I listened to albums like Purple Rain or 1999. I wonder how this album would have played if it was released in the 80s.

On the other hand, I think most people's trouble stems from the fact that they can't, as Dr. Wayne Dier said, "practice the art of allowing". This amounts to little more than acceptance. That's cuz some of us are still waiting to the follow up to Purple Rain, and that means there are some serious nostalgia junkies out there; nostalgia means nothing more than living in the past.

In short, if you can understand that this is 2005, not 1985, then you'll like his new stuff. If not, oh well, I feel sorry for you.