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Reply #30 posted 09/21/05 2:57pm

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Paisley4u said:

PurpleKnight said:

I'm not here to talk about the album as a whole. It's decent.

It has no truly special songs on it though. It has no real stand outs that can stand on their own and remind you that Prince is a genius.

Even his seemingly least popular albums seem to have had one or two stunners that caught people's ears and stood out as special gems amongst hardcore fans.

For You-Crazy You, Baby
Batman-Scandalous, Electric Chair
Graffiti Bridge-Joy In Repetition, The Question Of U
Diamonds and Pearls-Cream, Insatiable
prince-Damn U, 7, And God Created Woman
Come-Pheromone, Solo, Dark
Chaos and Disorder-Dinner With Delores, Into The Light/I Will
Emancipation-The Love We Make, Soul Sanctuary, etc.
NewPower Soul-Come On, Wasted Kisses, The One
Rave-I Love U But I Don't Trust U Anymore
TRC-The Sensual Everafter, Everlasting Now, Last December

If I'm slightly off with one of the songs I listed or forgot to mention, I'm sorry. You get the idea though.


What does Musicology have? It's consistent, but not one song on it is original sounding or especially creative. Not one will ever be a fan fave or even considered special.

BTW I didn't include NEWS cause it's just not a really fair comparison. I'm talking about all his conventional albums where he actually sang.

[Edited 9/21/05 12:00pm]


You're right about the fact there are no real stand out songs on the album.
Maybe I,C,P,C or WDUWM2D or Million Days stand out a little.

But it's a fact that it must be difficult after 28 years
and 20-something albums 2 put out something that
"doesn't sound like"or "reminds us of..."

WDUWM2D reminds people of Ballad Of DP
Million Days refers to Dolphin

The Stones also still sounds like The Stones and I could swear I've
heard their new song be4.But is that bad?



Only a couple years earlier he released The Rainbow Children which sounded like no other album he'd released before..... He has it in him not to be so lazy.
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Reply #31 posted 09/21/05 3:00pm

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PurpleKnight said:

Paisley4u said:


But it's a fact that it must be difficult after 28 years
and 20-something albums 2 put out something that
"doesn't sound like"or "reminds us of..."

WDUWM2D reminds people of Ballad Of DP
Million Days refers to Dolphin

The Stones also still sounds like The Stones and I could swear I've
heard their new song be4.But is that bad?


But when a song just sounds like a boring, obvious retread of a past song, that's when it's definitely a problem.


Unless that song would be 1999 or When Doves Cry drool3
Maybe he choses the wrong songs lol
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Reply #32 posted 09/21/05 3:18pm

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

I have really grown to nearly despise this album. It's a fraud.



I get that same feeling to! I want to really like it, but it just rings false to me.

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Reply #33 posted 09/21/05 3:25pm

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Nothinbutjoy said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

I have really grown to nearly despise this album. It's a fraud.



I get that same feeling to! I want to really like it, but it just rings false to me.

rose

Fake....so fake. A complete theft of the past. Uninspired and lazy. This is not the album a Hall of Famer should have released. The live tour was the bomb tho nod
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Reply #34 posted 09/21/05 4:25pm

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The only song that I can think of as being somewhat memorable is Call My Name. I do like the album very much but I have to agree with PurpleKnight. I was thinking about this a couple of months ago in how there is always one song on a Prince album that makes you say "Oh that's my jam right there!" but I don't think there is one song like that on this album. It works as a whole album but individually, it falls short. I personally wish he had released The Chocolate Invasion instead of Musicology. Can somebody say Vavoom? My theory on it was that he intentionally dumbed it down so that the mainstream could get back on the purple train. The one thing I want the most from Prince is a kickass dance song. Has he forgotten how to make one of those? I sure hope he hasn't but time will tell.
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Reply #35 posted 09/21/05 5:55pm

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It's one of my least favorite Prince albums to listen to... I just never get the urge to play it..... everything on Musicology has been done better somewhere else... everything...
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Reply #36 posted 09/21/05 7:10pm

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I love early revisionism.

Almost any Prince album I've heard did wear off temporarilly after a certain period of interest, some quicker than others. As years and decades passed, albums tended to wear off faster. It took about three years for me to get tired of 1999, five months for Batman, about the same for GB, a little longer for TGE. Emancipation started wearing off almost immediately but I could change the cd. NPS wore off instantly save for Come On. Rave took two months top.

But I of course fell in love all over again with 1999, and Batman, Emancipation, GB and TGE are played occasionally. However, I almost didn't play Rave or NPS at all after one year. I did play TRC past the two year mark.

Musicology? Short period of intense interest followed by months of selective listening with abundant skipping. It reached the absolute no-playing level about four months ago, but I expect to play it again once it's past the awkward stage -- too new to be listened to "from a distance", too "old" to be exciting.

I believe some of the assessments on this thread reflect that it's at that stage. While not a masterpiece, it is a solid effort with more than a couple of songs that will be more appreciated in two or three years. If I compare it to Rave, there are more songs I think will appeal to me after a while, because it's a less artificial journey overall (though still not the most original one).
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Reply #37 posted 09/21/05 7:19pm

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Aerogram said:

I love early revisionism.
Almost any Prince album I've heard did wear off temporarilly after a certain period of interest, some quicker than others. As years and decades passed, albums tended to wear off faster. It took about three years for me to get tired of 1999, five months for Batman, about the same for GB, a little longer for TGE. Emancipation started wearing off almost immediately but I could change the cd. NPS wore off instantly save for Come On. Rave took two months top.

But I of course fell in love all over again with 1999, and Batman, Emancipation, GB and TGE are played occasionally. However, I almost didn't play Rave or NPS at all after one year. I did play TRC past the two year mark.

Musicology? Short period of intense interest followed by months of selective listening with abundant skipping. It reached the absolute no-playing level about four months ago, but I expect to play it again once it's past the awkward stage -- too new to be listened to "from a distance", too "old" to be exciting.

I believe some of the assessments on this thread reflect that it's at that stage. While not a masterpiece, it is a solid effort with more than a couple of songs that will be more appreciated in two or three years. If I compare it to Rave, there are more songs I think will appeal to me after a while, because it's a less artificial journey overall (though still not the most original one).



wow...thats interesting....i dont neccessarily agree with it..but its an interesting read none the less..
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Reply #38 posted 09/21/05 7:43pm

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PurpleKnight said:

A Million Days is a less energetic version of Dolphin. It's really not that strong of a rock ballad.[/color]


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I like both but I guess A Million Days kinda displays Prince's drumming once again and that's why it gets the upper hand 4 me.
Prince ain't a GREAT drummer, but he is more than functional - Hell even Blackwell himself said he was inspired by Prince to play Drums!

When I first "Tamborine" I thought, what a piece of serious funk... shocked 2 the core whence I found out who was the drummer - the awakening of an 8-year old child huh?

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Reply #39 posted 09/21/05 9:21pm

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cool No! it is not his worst. Musicology is a good pop album. It's too bad he did not push more singles. Call My Name & Musicology were hits. Cinnamon Girl also did ok & got some airplay. Dear Mr.Man should of & would have been chartable...also Reflection if released as a single. music
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Reply #40 posted 09/21/05 9:24pm

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Aerogram said:

I love early revisionism.

Almost any Prince album I've heard did wear off temporarilly after a certain period of interest, some quicker than others. As years and decades passed, albums tended to wear off faster. It took about three years for me to get tired of 1999, five months for Batman, about the same for GB, a little longer for TGE. Emancipation started wearing off almost immediately but I could change the cd. NPS wore off instantly save for Come On. Rave took two months top.

But I of course fell in love all over again with 1999, and Batman, Emancipation, GB and TGE are played occasionally. However, I almost didn't play Rave or NPS at all after one year. I did play TRC past the two year mark.

Musicology? Short period of intense interest followed by months of selective listening with abundant skipping. It reached the absolute no-playing level about four months ago, but I expect to play it again once it's past the awkward stage -- too new to be listened to "from a distance", too "old" to be exciting.

I believe some of the assessments on this thread reflect that it's at that stage. While not a masterpiece, it is a solid effort with more than a couple of songs that will be more appreciated in two or three years. If I compare it to Rave, there are more songs I think will appeal to me after a while, because it's a less artificial journey overall (though still not the most original one).


Well I actually played Musicology today and it still just sounds medicore and lacks a pulse.
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Reply #41 posted 09/22/05 1:21pm

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Everyone has forgotten, that Musicology wasn't meant to break any new ground
or change any lives.

It was SUPPOSED to be rehash of typical Prince because this album wasn't really intended for us (major fans)

The purpose of this album, was to sell records, promote the tour, and give casual Prince fans, and the average Joe something to nod his head to and say
"Now this is nice, Prince should stop being so weird and do more stuff like this".

as I posted on another "Musicology is so boring"-type thread, Prince said himself on the Today Show: "It's a pop record, for those who don't really get into our music club stuff"

so relax people...I don't think Prince even intended for this to be ranked amoung the "classics". Its just another one of his all important segues biggrin
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Reply #42 posted 09/22/05 1:27pm

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thekidsgirl said:

Everyone has forgotten, that Musicology wasn't meant to break any new ground
or change any lives.

It was SUPPOSED to be rehash of typical Prince because this album wasn't really intended for us (major fans)

The purpose of this album, was to sell records, promote the tour, and give casual Prince fans, and the average Joe something to nod his head to and say
"Now this is nice, Prince should stop being so weird and do more stuff like this".

as I posted on another "Musicology is so boring"-type thread, Prince said himself on the Today Show: "It's a pop record, for those who don't really get into our music club stuff"

so relax people...I don't think Prince even intended for this to be ranked amoung the "classics". Its just another one of his all important segues biggrin


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Reply #43 posted 09/22/05 1:30pm

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thekidsgirl said:

Everyone has forgotten, that Musicology wasn't meant to break any new ground
or change any lives.

It was SUPPOSED to be rehash of typical Prince because this album wasn't really intended for us (major fans)

The purpose of this album, was to sell records, promote the tour, and give casual Prince fans, and the average Joe something to nod his head to and say
"Now this is nice, Prince should stop being so weird and do more stuff like this".

as I posted on another "Musicology is so boring"-type thread, Prince said himself on the Today Show: "It's a pop record, for those who don't really get into our music club stuff"

so relax people...I don't think Prince even intended for this to be ranked amoung the "classics". Its just another one of his all important segues biggrin

I can agree with that. I do remember him saying this. That's why I believe he's coming back harder with the next project.
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