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thEfRIeNdChiP

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Madonna, Michael Jackson or Prince - who´s the winner?

These 3 artists made music history - and still do. Who of the so-called Pop-Trinity of the 80´íes is the winner at the end? I don´t mean only moneymaking and number of sold records.
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Reply #1 posted 08/31/05 11:29am

andykeen

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Well MJ has sold more records cause of thiller
Madonna has sold more than prince cause she never changed her name in the 90's
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Reply #2 posted 08/31/05 11:29am

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Well Mike's legacy is fucked up, cause of all the court cases and stuff. And Madonna is known as bein a whore! Prince is called gay by alot of people, but thats dum and ignorant ppl, so it's ok. + Prince is the most capable of being a star in this stage of his carreer! So Prince is the winner!
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Reply #3 posted 08/31/05 11:42am

GoldenGlove

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I don't really dig Madonna, i jsut don't get here music... MJ is a huge inspiration to me though. And so is Prince.
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Reply #4 posted 08/31/05 11:49am

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Though I prefer Prince over the other two, I'd say they're equal, but that their strengths lie in different areas.



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Reply #5 posted 08/31/05 11:51am

thEfRIeNdChiP

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andykeen said:

Madonna has sold more than prince cause she never changed her name in the 90's
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sooo true nod
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Reply #6 posted 08/31/05 12:33pm

andykeen

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But really im with golden glove, when ever i heard MJ, P, i can understand y some ppl mite like em, and y they were so big, But madonna? damn i just dont hear it.

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Reply #7 posted 08/31/05 1:16pm

RodeoSchro

andykeen said:

Well MJ has sold more records cause of thiller
Madonna has sold more than prince cause she never changed her name in the 90's
sad


Now she wants to be known as "Esther". THAT oughta put a bump in her sales.
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Reply #8 posted 08/31/05 1:19pm

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meow85 said:

Though I prefer Prince over the other two, I'd say they're equal, but that their strengths lie in different areas.



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That's pretty much how I feel on that too.
I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that
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Reply #9 posted 08/31/05 1:20pm

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meow85 said:

Though I prefer Prince over the other two, I'd say they're equal, but that their strengths lie in different areas.



shrug

That's pretty much how I feel on that too.
I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that
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Reply #10 posted 08/31/05 1:25pm

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Prince is far superior to either MJ or Madonna as a multi-tasking musician. I never liked MJ and Madonna's sound could compare to bubblegum music. With Prince You get hard rocking, funking slamming soul. Prince is a Soul Man and that puts him way above the rest.

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Reply #11 posted 08/31/05 1:36pm

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Madonna is by far the worst out of the three. It pisses me off that she's the only one that the media like/care about. When it comes to the mainstream media MJ and Prince have shot themselves in the foot, MJ with his court cases and other strange behaviour and Prince with the name change. This is what has allowed Madonna to still have a mainstream pop career, she hasn't done anything as crazy as MJ and Prince and isn't the butt of many a joke.

In terms of talent, Prince and MJ are so far ahead of Madonna its unbelievable. Madonna has never had an album that had the kind of impact that Thriller or Purple Rain had, she never had that 'big album', well maybe Ray of Light but it wasn't that big. Anyway below is my comparison of all 3.

Vocal Ability
1.Michael Jackson
2.Prince
3.Madonna

Playing Instruments/Musical Virtuosity
1.Prince
2.Michael Jackson
3.Madonna

Dancing
1.Michael Jackson
2.Prince
3.Madonna

Songwriting
1.Prince
2.Michael Jackson (close second)
3.Madonna

Producing
1.Michael Jackson/Prince
3.Madonna

Flamboyancy
1.Prince
2.Michael Jackson
3.Madonna

Being a media whore and trying so hard to be controversial, hip and now
1.Madonna (way out in front of the other two)
2.Michael Jackson
3.Prince

Madonna hit a low when she did that Britney kiss, it showed her desperation for fame.
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Reply #12 posted 08/31/05 1:46pm

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SEXYMOFO said:

Madonna is by far the worst out of the three. It pisses me off that she's the only one that the media like/care about. When it comes to the mainstream media MJ and Prince have shot themselves in the foot, MJ with his court cases and other strange behaviour and Prince with the name change. This is what has allowed Madonna to still have a mainstream pop career, she hasn't done anything as crazy as MJ and Prince and isn't the butt of many a joke.

In terms of talent, Prince and MJ are so far ahead of Madonna its unbelievable. Madonna has never had an album that had the kind of impact that Thriller or Purple Rain had, she never had that 'big album', well maybe Ray of Light but it wasn't that big. Anyway below is my comparison of all 3.

Vocal Ability
1.Michael Jackson
2.Prince
3.Madonna

Playing Instruments/Musical Virtuosity
1.Prince
2.Michael Jackson
3.Madonna

Dancing
1.Michael Jackson
2.Prince
3.Madonna

Songwriting
1.Prince
2.Michael Jackson (close second)
3.Madonna

Producing
1.Michael Jackson/Prince
3.Madonna

Flamboyancy
1.Prince
2.Michael Jackson
3.Madonna

Being a media whore and trying so hard to be controversial, hip and now
1.Madonna (way out in front of the other two)
2.Michael Jackson
3.Prince

Madonna hit a low when she did that Britney kiss, it showed her desperation for fame.


That is 100% accurate
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Reply #13 posted 08/31/05 1:50pm

zawsze

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not really true.
I got a new Avatar from my dear friend Goldenglove.
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Reply #14 posted 08/31/05 2:03pm

Love2tha9s

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andykeen said:

Well MJ has sold more records cause of thiller
Madonna has sold more than prince cause she never changed her name in the 90's
sad


If you bailed on him just because he changed his name you really missed out on at least one great album "TGE".
"Why'd I waste my kisses on you baby?" R.I.P. Prince You've finally found your way back home. Well Done.
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Reply #15 posted 08/31/05 2:14pm

DarkKnight1

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1984 called, they want their topic back.
(Insert something clever here)
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Reply #16 posted 08/31/05 3:20pm

murph

GoldenGlove said:[quote]

SEXYMOFO said:

Madonna is by far the worst out of the three. It pisses me off that she's the only one that the media like/care about. When it comes to the mainstream media MJ and Prince have shot themselves in the foot, MJ with his court cases and other strange behaviour and Prince with the name change. This is what has allowed Madonna to still have a mainstream pop career, she hasn't done anything as crazy as MJ and Prince and isn't the butt of many a joke.

In terms of talent, Prince and MJ are so far ahead of Madonna its unbelievable. Madonna has never had an album that had the kind of impact that Thriller or Purple Rain had, she never had that 'big album', well maybe Ray of Light but it wasn't that big. Anyway below is my comparison of all 3.

Vocal Ability
1.Michael Jackson
2.Prince
3.Madonna

Playing Instruments/Musical Virtuosity
1.Prince
2.Michael Jackson
3.Madonna

Dancing
1.Michael Jackson
2.Prince
3.Madonna

Songwriting
1.Prince
2.Michael Jackson (close second)
3.Madonna

Producing
1.Michael Jackson/Prince
3.Madonna

Flamboyancy
1.Prince
2.Michael Jackson
3.Madonna

Being a media whore and trying so hard to be controversial, hip and now
1.Madonna (way out in front of the other two)
2.Michael Jackson
3.Prince

Madonna hit a low when she did that Britney kiss, it showed her desperation for fame.


At the rick of beating a dead horse, hear ya go.....

Vocal Ability
1.MJ
2.Prince
3.Madonna

Playing Instruments/Musical Virtuosity
1.Prince
2.Madonna (The chick played drums in the Breakfast Club group)
3. MJ

Dancing
1.Michael Jackson
2.Madonna
3.Prince

Songwriting
1.Prince
2.Michael Jackson (not even a close second..come on????)
3.Madonna

Producing
1.Prince
2.Michael Jackson/Madonna (MJ wrote more songs than Madonna, but has been connected to just as many songwriters and producers as Madonna..)

Flamboyancy
1.Prince
2.Madonna
3. MJ

Being a media whore and trying so hard to be controversial, hip and now
1.Madonna (way out in front of the other two.....ditto!!!!!)
2.Michael Jackson
3.Prince
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Reply #17 posted 08/31/05 3:29pm

puremonkey69

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GoldenGlove said:

SEXYMOFO said:

Madonna is by far the worst out of the three. It pisses me off that she's the only one that the media like/care about. When it comes to the mainstream media MJ and Prince have shot themselves in the foot, MJ with his court cases and other strange behaviour and Prince with the name change. This is what has allowed Madonna to still have a mainstream pop career, she hasn't done anything as crazy as MJ and Prince and isn't the butt of many a joke.

In terms of talent, Prince and MJ are so far ahead of Madonna its unbelievable. Madonna has never had an album that had the kind of impact that Thriller or Purple Rain had, she never had that 'big album', well maybe Ray of Light but it wasn't that big. Anyway below is my comparison of all 3.

Vocal Ability
1.Michael Jackson
2.Prince
3.Madonna

Playing Instruments/Musical Virtuosity
1.Prince
2.Michael Jackson
3.Madonna

Dancing
1.Michael Jackson
2.Prince
3.Madonna

Songwriting
1.Prince
2.Michael Jackson (close second)
3.Madonna

Producing
1.Michael Jackson/Prince
3.Madonna

Flamboyancy
1.Prince
2.Michael Jackson
3.Madonna

Being a media whore and trying so hard to be controversial, hip and now
1.Madonna (way out in front of the other two)
2.Michael Jackson
3.Prince

Madonna hit a low when she did that Britney kiss, it showed her desperation for fame.


At the rick of beating a dead horse, hear ya go.....

Vocal Ability
1.MJ
2.Prince
3.Madonna

Playing Instruments/Musical Virtuosity
1.Prince
2.Madonna (The chick played drums in the Breakfast Club group)
3. MJ

Dancing
1.Michael Jackson
2.Madonna
3.Prince

Songwriting
1.Prince
2.Michael Jackson (not even a close second..come on????)
3.Madonna

Producing
1.Prince
2.Michael Jackson/Madonna (MJ wrote more songs than Madonna, but has been connected to just as many songwriters and producers as Madonna..)

Flamboyancy
1.Prince
2.Madonna
3. MJ

Being a media whore and trying so hard to be controversial, hip and now
1.Madonna (way out in front of the other two.....ditto!!!!!)
2.Michael Jackson
3.Prince


Couldn't agree more.
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Reply #18 posted 08/31/05 3:35pm

SEXYMOFO

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murph said:


At the rick of beating a dead horse, hear ya go.....

Playing Instruments/Musical Virtuosity
1.Prince
2.Madonna (The chick played drums in the Breakfast Club group)
3. MJ

Producing
1.Prince
2.Michael Jackson/Madonna (MJ wrote more songs than Madonna, but has been connected to just as many songwriters and producers as Madonna..)

Flamboyancy
1.Prince
2.Madonna
3. MJ


Come on Michael Jackson plays way more instruments than Madonna. He is a multi instrumentalist, not to the level of Prince but I know he plays the Piano/keyboards, guitar, bass and drums as well as other instuments, he also programs and arranges a huge portion of his music. I would also say he is more Flamboyant than Madonna, he had his own unique style which many people have copied, remember the high trousers, red jacket, glove, white/sequenced socks, military jacket etc. Madonna has always struck me as a lucky person who just happened to be in the right place at the right time.
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Reply #19 posted 08/31/05 3:40pm

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Commercially:

1. Michael Jackson
2. Madonna

3. Prince



Artistically/Musically:

1. Prince

2. Michael Jackson


3. Madonna
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Reply #20 posted 08/31/05 7:09pm

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SEXYMOFO said:



Madonna hit a low when she did that Britney kiss, it showed her desperation for fame.


It was lame, her first and only mistake imo.
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Reply #21 posted 08/31/05 7:10pm

lilgish

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DarkKnight1 said:

1984 called, they want their topic back.

lol
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Reply #22 posted 08/31/05 9:43pm

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with Prince, you can't just go out and buy up all his albums in a week, because there's just so many, so much to explore...

u have to dig deep into his catalogue before u can really comprehend just how incrediblely talented he is.

it took me almost a whole year just to get to the bootlegs (too young to be a fan in the 80s)

Some say quality over quantity. Prince does both, albeit sometimes inconsistantly.

Prince certainly doesn't get the recognition and respect he deserves, but only because most people don't have the time to spare him. Maybe if he had condensed his work into 5 great albums they'd digest it a bit better,

with MJ, the bulk of his work lies in a mere 4 albums, Off the Wall, Thriller, Bad and Dangerous (his early stuff can't be fairly compared alongside Prince and Madonna). MJ had some great singles and videos in his heyday but unfortunately he couldn't keep it up.

I absolutely love Madonna, before Prince she was even my favourite artist. To be honest though, all most people need is a good mix tape, even though she does have a few great albums.

all in all, Prince is a musical journey, MJ and Madonna are cheap thrills
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Reply #23 posted 08/31/05 10:37pm

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Madonna is a talentless hack, who can't sing her way out of a paper bag. If it wasnt for her unabashed thievery of every new trend of gay culture she would never have an act.

Michael Jackson was one of the most scary-talented people on the planet till about 1987 when like a piece of fruit he went...bad. He was a great pop music musician(thats not saying much) Now he sucks all kinds of balls musically.

Prince is THE consumate musician's musician. He can play circles around these two chumps. He is a REAL composer who still writes prolific complex acomplished music. He has the improvisational skills that the other two robots of this topic wished they had in thier dreams.(this includes dance steps). Furthermore in a hundred years conservatories will be studying the music of P. Nelson long after the vapid pop of MJ and Mrs. Desperate is long forgotten.

There isnt even a contest... Prince won
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Reply #24 posted 08/31/05 10:43pm

calin

SEXYMOFO said:

Madonna is by far the worst out of the three. It pisses me off that she's the only one that the media like/care about. When it comes to the mainstream media MJ and Prince have shot themselves in the foot, MJ with his court cases and other strange behaviour and Prince with the name change. This is what has allowed Madonna to still have a mainstream pop career, she hasn't done anything as crazy as MJ and Prince and isn't the butt of many a joke.

In terms of talent, Prince and MJ are so far ahead of Madonna its unbelievable. Madonna has never had an album that had the kind of impact that Thriller or Purple Rain had, she never had that 'big album', well maybe Ray of Light but it wasn't that big. Anyway below is my comparison of all 3.

Vocal Ability
1.Michael Jackson
2.Prince
3.Madonna

Playing Instruments/Musical Virtuosity
1.Prince
2.Michael Jackson
3.Madonna

Dancing
1.Michael Jackson
2.Prince
3.Madonna

Songwriting
1.Prince
2.Michael Jackson (close second)
3.Madonna

Producing
1.Michael Jackson/Prince
3.Madonna

Flamboyancy
1.Prince
2.Michael Jackson
3.Madonna

Being a media whore and trying so hard to be controversial, hip and now
1.Madonna (way out in front of the other two)
2.Michael Jackson
3.Prince

Madonna hit a low when she did that Britney kiss, it showed her desperation for fame.


I would give the vocal ability to Prince.
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Reply #25 posted 08/31/05 10:46pm

LadySMD4

calin said:

SEXYMOFO said:

Madonna is by far the worst out of the three. It pisses me off that she's the only one that the media like/care about. When it comes to the mainstream media MJ and Prince have shot themselves in the foot, MJ with his court cases and other strange behaviour and Prince with the name change. This is what has allowed Madonna to still have a mainstream pop career, she hasn't done anything as crazy as MJ and Prince and isn't the butt of many a joke.

In terms of talent, Prince and MJ are so far ahead of Madonna its unbelievable. Madonna has never had an album that had the kind of impact that Thriller or Purple Rain had, she never had that 'big album', well maybe Ray of Light but it wasn't that big. Anyway below is my comparison of all 3.

Vocal Ability
1.Michael Jackson
2.Prince
3.Madonna

Playing Instruments/Musical Virtuosity
1.Prince
2.Michael Jackson
3.Madonna

Dancing
1.Michael Jackson
2.Prince
3.Madonna

Songwriting
1.Prince
2.Michael Jackson (close second)
3.Madonna

Producing
1.Michael Jackson/Prince
3.Madonna

Flamboyancy
1.Prince
2.Michael Jackson
3.Madonna

Being a media whore and trying so hard to be controversial, hip and now
1.Madonna (way out in front of the other two)
2.Michael Jackson
3.Prince

Madonna hit a low when she did that Britney kiss, it showed her desperation for fame.


I would give the vocal ability to Prince.









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Reply #26 posted 08/31/05 10:55pm

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calin said:



I would give the vocal ability to Prince.


I know this is a P site, but c'mon P was below MJ vocally in their prime. and that's not even counting MJ as a kid, which would be no contest for P. disbelief
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Reply #27 posted 08/31/05 11:00pm

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lilgish said:

calin said:



I would give the vocal ability to Prince.


I know this is a P site, but c'mon P was below MJ vocally in their prime. and that's not even counting MJ as a kid, which would be no contest for P. disbelief


WHAT?

The vocal range of Prince is almost double that of Micheal "shomon" Jackson in his prime and still is today. MJ is weak live to boot. Why dont you get a clue musically about keys and octaves then post something informed.
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Reply #28 posted 08/31/05 11:26pm

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ThePowersCreepin said:


MJ is weak live to boot.


Vocally, when he sung he was on point.

Just compare the vocals from the Dirty Mind Tour to the Truimph tour cool or any previous Tour.

since when does range encompass one's entire vocal ability. Jackson had a much more powerful, clear voice, with range to boot.

Keys and octaves

Now give me the ranges and octaves of both if you're so versed in that area.
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Reply #29 posted 09/01/05 12:31am

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this kind of discussions started 20 years ago, they seem to never end

In the 70s MJ was the winner as a pop icon.
In the 80s MJ was the winner as a pop icon, Prince was close after Purple Rain came out
In the 90s Madonna was the winner - she reinvented her style many times and matured (Erotica, Ray of Lihgt)
In the 2000s Prince seems to be ahead of the other 2, but MJ and Madonna are still capable of regaining their positions, because they are more ambitious than Prince is.

Musically Prince is the winner. Prince does not care about the sales and charts so much - but if we look at Musicology tour and album - we can see a little bit of hunger in him also.
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