LadyB0yCabDriver said:

why you gotta go mention that fool.

lilgish said:

Usher is a Genius..Gonna change my avvie

LadyB0yCabDriver said:

Michael's song Dirty diana has kick ass guitar THAT HE DOESN'T PLAY
Billy Jean has amazing bass THAT HE DOESN'T PLAY
Remember the time is one of the best drum beats ever THAT HE DOESN'T PLAY

..you get the picture...


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MIGUELGOMEZ said:

Yeah.. Don't fuck with Michael Jackson cos da brother don't play.

LadyB0yCabDriver said:

Haha!!! Don't get me wrong I love lots of Michael's music. I just feel that Prince is more of a "genius" because you can hand him a guitar, piano or drum kit and he will play the hell out of it. Michael may only be able to play the piano.


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LadyB0yCabDriver said:

OH SHIT

You know MG is right-- whattup MG!

cinnamonjo said:

Heeee heeeee!!!!!

Hey CJ!!!!!

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LadyBoyCabDriver said:

He aint!

Well i vote Ladyboy the best user of the emoticon

LightOfArt said:

Hehehehe - yeah, just look at all those pyrotechnics, lights and glitter - what an artist

LadyB0yCabDriver said:

1. Because
2. I
3. Say
4. So

wow retard alert!

Nice Topic

Ok.. I'll Bite.

1) Prince: Sings LIVE 99.9% of the time!

MJ: Lip Syncs 99.9% of the time! Look at his TV Apearances, they are all Lip Synced. Listen when MJ's mic is on, his voice is almost always out of key!

2) Prince: Plays every major instrument! Everywhere! On Tv, In Concerts.

MJ: Doesnt Play any Instruments. Putting your name 4th listed in liner notes because you pluck a guitar on a barred track, isn't playing

3) Prince: Produces EVERYTHING on his own! He changed the music industry as much with his producing techiques.

MJ: Has needed Producers for every album! His last he had a budget of $30 Million IF you can produce & you know what is in style,etc. You dont need $30 Million.

4) Prince: has sold out his Concerts in the usa for 20 years! He was the #1 act in American LAST YEAR!

MJ: Couldnt even sell out The Victory Tour in his prime! They was half filled in allot of the major cities & he had to give tickets away! MJ hasn't even toured america since Dangerous, which wasn't sold out and still had to give tickets away! David Gest said he had to give tickets away for his 2001 MSG 2 dates. That is 2 shows in NYC! (Prince played 11+ shows in some of the major cities )

5) Prince: He is a Orginal!

MJ: Copied Prince! Look at MJ after 1985. He changed his skin tone, his hair,his personality became mysterious. (all coping Prince)

All these stupid Topics & Praise wouldn't be happening if the white media did their homework! MJ "repackaged" 1970's B-Boy dance moves which were on tv by the way! He "repackaged" it for the White Youth & White Media in the 1980's. These ideas were over a decade old. Just because "you" saw this with your white eyes, in your white world, with your white lazy media praising Michael Jackson for lip syncing & doing dance moves anyone that watch Apollo & or Soul Train saw 5-10 years before.

These topics are so stupid! If I was a MOD, I would just delete all of them.

Mindflux said:

yea, cause Prince has never used them

ElectricBlue said:

Too bad you didn't hear Mj from 69 to 87.



As a hater you should know that it's bad.


Charity




Yea, cause the white media didn't love the Half-Black, Half-Italian Prince and didn't promote him over other Black artists.

I wonder why everyone thougt he was mixed.

and how the fuck can you repackage moves from the 70's that you did and made popular. what a hater!!! are you still talking about that damn drawing matching

Mindflux said:

Yeah, now take away all the pyrotechnics, lights and glitter and give Prince a guitar.

Do the same with Michael.....


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LadyB0yCabDriver said:

ElectricBlue said:

First of all [Flame snip - luv4u] , MJ was rehearsing/recording non stop since he was 5 years old til Thriller (25), when the hell was he supposed to learn to play all these instruments?

MJ's Bad, Dangerous and HIStory tours are the most successful tours of all time, he killed Prince in that aspect, he beat people like Elvis, Beatles, Rolling Stones, Led Zeppelin. The demand for tickets for the MSG shows was unbelievable, some people payed $2000 a ticket. Could Prince sell out Wembley stadium for 7 nights like MJ did in 1987? Hell could he even sell it out for one night in 1984?
Where the hell do you get this information that MJ couldn't sell out his shows?

MJ hasn't copied Prince one bit, in fact Prince sounds more like he copied MJ with all his falsetto singing on his early albums.

You're saying MJ sold out to the white media? Wasn't it Prince who used to be a pure funk artist and then started making pop/rock to get mainstream appeal?

I would say they are both equally as talented but in different ways.

Michael is a self proclaimed king. He only had 2 albums in the 80s whereas Prince was all over the place thru the whole decade. Prince produces, plays instruments & sings on his material & others. Michael finds the best producers and shops around for songs. They're really too different. To say Michael is better is really saying is Michael, Quincy Jones, R. Kelly, Teddy Riley, Steve Stevens, Eddie Van Halen, Slash and who ever else helps Mike be a complete artist better than Prince. Bottom line is Prince can do what Mike does, can Mike do what Prince does. And Mike has been doing the same damn dance since he performed it at the Motown 25 reunion in '84. Prince's music is influential and Mike's videos are influential. More people sound like Prince than Mike. Michael has to do alot to sell his records & to be respected. Prince lays it down and he on to the next project.

LadyB0yCabDriver said:

Like what songs do U THINK were influence by MJ

BEAUGARDE said:

The backslide "moonwalk" is only a pieceof the arsenal, check my vid.... http://www.prince.org/msg/8/157853



[Edited 9/1/05 16:48pm]

BEAUGARDE said:

he/she's playing around


Life o the Party thematically for sure.
[Edited 9/1/05 16:49pm]

sitruk7 said:

That was funny

Ok I'm gonna try to be objective and calm here. This topic is SOOOO played out, but it's fun to have to restate/reword your opinion every once in a while. Once again, going line by line like I have in all the other Prince vs. So and so or So and so vs. so and so threads

Musicianship-Yes, this is a no brainer, Prince is a vastly superior musician who can solo authoritatively on guitar and keyboards and has his own distinctive style on these plus drums and bass, he is capable of laying all or most of the tracks on his recordings himself, and has earned the respect of many other great players and multi-instrumentalists. Michael usually doesn't play any instruments on his recordings, and the few he has are not particularly impressive. I'm sure Michael can play some simple things on guitar and drums and probably has a basic knowledge of piano too, but until I see him hold down an instrument live, gotta give this category to prince.

Vocals-this is a tough call, but I've gotta go with MJ. MJ has an insanely powerful voice and an incredible non-falsetto upper register range that prince can't touch. Prince has an awesome falsetto and fewer vocal gimmicks/mannerisms, and he may have a better lower register, but MJ is easily one of the best male R&B vocalists of all time. If we were comparing Prince to MJ as a child, the discrepancy would be even wider as MJ's younger voice was positively unbeatable.

Songwriting-Another tough call, but Prince just has so much more product of such a greater variety than MJ. Both have vast stores of unreleased material, but prince has just covered a much wider range of styles and topics. MJ has made some of the greatest dance songs of all time, but prince is maybe the most accomplished songwriter of his generation, donating songs to many other artists and being covered by a acts in nearly all genres. Prince did have a lot of partners/co-writers who weren't always given their full credit, but MJ performed more songs that he had no role in writing and had more credited help in the arranging/producing of his material.

Producing-This isn't really a big deal as I think both of their production styles are too flashy and too 80s, but Prince at least is capable of being more subtle and raw if he wants to and can even escape the "80s" stigma and feel more like the 70s, 60s etc. Mj has always had at least one co-producer and always seems to be more concerned with popularity and chart success and staying hip than prince has (not to say that prince hasn't kept an eye cocked in that direction, but he hasn't compromised his artistry quite as much). Prince beats out MJ in this category, but both have their ups and downs.

Live Performance-if we were to measure this by the quantity and variety of performances of their adult careers, this one would go to prince since he's toured more and can do more things on stage than MJ (like PLAY INSTRUMENTS and let his band JAM rather than just having them play the same routine every time). However, MJ, both in the J5 days and for much of his adult career was a simply SPECTACULAR song and dance man, and was uncanny in his ability to work a crowd. Any prince fan who doesn't acknowledge how vastly superior a dancer MJ was(is?) A. hasn't seen enough footage of MJ's jaw-dropping abilities or B. is in just as much denial as they accuse Mj's fans of being. I think Prince is actually a pretty bad dancer (or rather seems either effeminate, silly or over-choreographed) when he's not doing the splits or other faux-godfather moves. Prince, as a dancer, is just an ersatz James Brown with touches of balletic nonsense. Michael was replicating JB and Jackie Wilson's moves when he was a kid (and not in an "ersatz" way either), and while he didn't necessarily "invent" ALL of his moves, he certainly refined, pioneered and perfected many of them. Hell, Gene kelly and Fred Astaire gave Mj props on his dancing, which is just as relevant as Clapton and Santana giving prince props on his guitar chops. If MJ hadn't focused SOOO much on dancing and choreography that he made it virtually impossible to continuously sing live, he would unequivocally beat prince in this category, despite prince's superior skills as an instrumentalist, but as it is, I think I'll call it a draw.

jacktheimprovident said:

I would agree with you except the "live performer" part. I love Michael's music from his J5 days thru Invinvible! I saw him once in Germany during the "Dangerous World Tour". He was phenomenal to say the least! But I feel that Prince has this category hands down! Though his dance moves seem subpar to Michael's, he stills has that ability to work the crowd with his dancing! I saw Prince four times, in '93, '97 (Jam of the Year Tour), and twice during the historic Musicology tour! When Prince plays his instruments onstage, Jimi Hendrix, Miles Davis, the Beatles, and Bob Dylan comes to mind! Just like Michael's dancing, Prince's musicianship is MAGICAL! I wished you had attended one of the Musicology concerts from last year where he MOVED the entire sell-out crowd with just his voice and an acoustic guitar on When Doves Cry and Little Red Corvette! People were standing on their feet and going nuts! But at the same time, when you leave a Prince concert, it's like a religious experience. To me, Michael is the GREATEST ENTERTAINER (with great artitstic abilities) of his generation, Prince is the GREATEST ARTIST (with great entertaining abilities) of his generation!

Smittyrock70 said:

Wow Smitty, I think those last two lines constitute perhaps the greatest, most succinct, honest, and truth ringing summation I've ever read on this subject anywhere, ever! You couldn't be more on point. Mad props for your eloquence.
Bravo!

to see who is the more exciting live performer, check out the audiences

LightOfArt said:

you shoulda seen some of the victory tour

lilgish said:

You should see all of the Bad and Dangerous tour performances.