A very good album which was released on the NPGMC for download , never released in the shops although the track "u make my sun shine" with Angie Stone was released in the US & can be found on Ebay.

When i lay my hands on U ..... excellent slow jam
Judas Smile ..... Funky but definately one of the weaker tracks
Supercute ..... Top class jam with a nice baseline ,one for the summer
Underneath the Cream ..... i love this ,another tune for the car(roof down)
Sexme?sexmenot? .....another fresh sounding jam
Vavoom ..... decent track which is spoiled by an awful chorus
High ..... not terrible but not great
The Dance ..... great ballad, one of his best this decade
Gamilah ..... lovely instrumental
U make my sun shade ..... great duet with Angie Stone

Overall this is an excellent album ,certainly every Prince fan should own (it's probably the best thing thats been on the MC for download). The album is very commercial sounding & would have done well if it had been released, Supercute , The Dance & Underneath the Cream would have been great single releases along with U make my sun shine ( which charted on some of the billboard charts).

IMHO it's one of the best things from P in the last 5 years , it is a totally different sound & style to TRC & THATS WHAT MAKES PRINCE THE GENIUS HE IS

WILMHOU is supreme! (and that is not a word i use very often)

I like this album. One of my favorites so far this decade. I love WILMHOU, Sex Me Sex Me Not, Vavoom and The Dance. I could see Sex Me Sex Me Not in the clubs today.

GoldenGlove said:

I agree golden 1 ,what r ur views on the rest ?

purplecam said:

Definately Cam, it would have done well in the clubs with Supercute ..... do u like the chorus of Vavoom ..... i dont ,which is ashame as i like the rest of it

I really love this album, and I hate to compare but all in all I enjoy it much more than Musicology or The Rainbow Children.

Supercute is my favorite track followed by Sexme? Sexme not?, Underneth the Cream,
and Vavoom .U make My Sun Shine is one of his best duets as well IMO.

The main weakness of the album is there's one too many slow jams and High is a
touch corny, but other than that I really dig it

[anal] Less an album, more a compilation [/anal]

AlphabetST1977 said:

Should have been coupled with "Golden Parasol"

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langebleu said:

LOL

SMILE !!!!!

langebleu said:

NouveauDance said:

yeppers.

NouveauDance said:

I think you could argue that about most of Prince's albums. Some were recorded in a brief spurt with similar instruments and production, yes, but the majority have been tracks with no real thematic or musical connection with each other, a mish-mash of styles, where Prince has basically looked at what he had recorded the previous few months or year and picked his favourite ones. If 'The Gold Experience' or 'Musicology' had been put out on the internet one by one over a year, and then an album made of the tracks, most people would say it was a compilation rather than a true album. It is simply because we are aware of that these tracks were slowly released that they don't have the perception of an album. It seems most new fans new to the NPGMC treat it far more as a proper, consistent sounding album.

AlphabetST1977 said:

I like the chorus to Vavoom. It's easy to sing to and the easier the better. I agree with you about Supercute, that would have been huge too. I wish this came out officially last year. I enjoy this album a lot. I am praying that the next CD has a hard dance song on it. We need Prince in the clubs BAAAAAD! I'm going to keep the faith
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purplecam said:

TALK

metalorange said:

I am not a new fan or new to the NPGMC but at the end of the day , 2 me "The Chocolate Invasion" is just a good collection of tunes ,i know they were not recorded 1 after another but who cares ?? , it still should have been released officially .....

GoldenGlove said:

Alright now I'm glad I'm not the only one who wants some hard funk in the clubs again

AlphabetST1977 said:

That's right!

AlphabetST1977 said:

It seems funny to me that most people praise The Chocolate Invasion - but hate on Slaughterhouse. To my ears, the Slaughterhouse tracks are no better and no worse that TCI as a collection of tunes, and most if not all could have been placed on TCI without anyone noticing, after all, they are also from the same vague 'High' project era.

I think that both THE CHOCOLATE INVASION and THE SLAUGHTERHOUSE are both pretty good. They're nice and funky.


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metalorange said:

According to all sources - Every track was recorded before the idea of said "album" was even thought up and previously released before it's sale was made public, except one singular track (The Dance, previously recorded, yet unreleased) - This says it's a compilation of previously released material.

The Gold Experience and Musicology contain tracks that were previously unreleased - so whilst an album like SOTT contains largely tracks that were meant for other purposes, they were previously unreleased, thus, not a compilation, thus denoting TGE and Musicology as albums, not compilations, officially.

I DID say this was anal


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AlphabetST1977 said:

I don't "hate" The Slaughterhouse. I think there are some really good tracks on it, like Silicon, S&M Groove & Peace. But 2045: Radical Man had already been released on the Bamboozled soundtrack and most other songs come across as Newpower Soul leftovers, and Newpower Soul wasn't really a good album to start with. (So it's amazing he left S&M Groove off that album.)

And I seriously dislike Hypnoparadise. Surely that must've been originally intended for Mayte, but that's still no excuse. It's plain awful.

So the end result just doesn't come off as well as The Chocolate Invasion.
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NouveauDance said:

Yeah but no but yeah. Technically, I guess you are right.

What I am saying is, every album is a compilation of tracks at it's heart. In a practical sense, the internet wasn't around for SOTT or TGE, therefore the tracks being leaked one by one online previous to the album release wasn't a possibility. But say they had been, would that have made the album any less cohesive?

Actually, What Do You Want Me To Do and Reflection were available well before the release of Musicology, so does that make Musicology a half-compilation?! When does an album become a 'compilation', when more than half of the tracks have been previously made available?

NouveauDance said:

No, those tracks were not previously released in my (analretentive) opinion.

I don't consider the fact that members of Prince's private club - one had to pay membership, remember? - got previews of those tracks as a release. In my (analretentive) opinion, those tracks were released when they were put up for public purchase as The Chocolate Invasion and The Slaughterhouse early last year.

But that being said, I kinda do consider both to be compilations in the same manner that I consider both Chaos And Disorder and The Vault... Old Friends 4 Sale as compilations.
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metalorange said:

Yeah, but no, but Yeah!!

The material from TSH and TCI wasn't "leaked", it was OFFICIALLY released, outside of any album idea (although we know of High and the 4th NPG album (name escapes me, sorry), so we can say some of this material belongs to High and the 4th NPG album) - Initially, the material was released, officially, with no mention that it was part of any project, other than the Music Club monthly releases.

I really don't remember the release of WDUWM2D or Reflection on mp3, but one presumes they were previews of the album, at least WDUWM2D (I recall an edit of Reflection?), or not part of any other release/project, or for sale individually.

Again, I state, this mater is anal beyond belief!


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NouveauDance said:

Reflection was the first song in the reflection room of the NPGMC. Not officially for download, but you could hear it and drag it out of your temp internet folder. Later, WDUWM2D was put out, I can't quite remember, but I think again it was in the reflection room. I remember it was seen as a repost to a lot of fans moaning about a particularly quiet period of the club. There was no suggestion at the time that they were any more than 1 off tracks.

In addition, without knowing, we could have heard most of the next album. There's nothing really to stop putting SST, Brand New Orleans, Glass Cutter, Satisfied, San Jose Jam on the next album.

Hey, everything on this site is anal, if we didn't discuss everthing in triplicate down to the last detail, we wouldn't be Prince geeks.


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metalorange said:

Until that time, they're just random tracks.

With regards to WDUWM2D and Reflection: A couple of preview tracks surfacing before the album is fair game.

With regards to TCI and TSH: 99% of the tracks were officially released as completely individual new tracks (in relation to the compilation in question). A year or two later many of said tracks were re-compiled, after several non-eventful suggested releases under different guises, and arranged into two collective releases. Well, I would class this recompilation as another project, entirely!

Perhaps "Slaughterhouse" could have benefited from
just a little bit more guitar and a slowjam or two

That would have given the album some restingpoint,
inbetween the "beats".

And yes, "Hypnoparadise" is sheer horribleness on
that album. Man, it sounds like an "Emancipation"
left over.

Take that fcker off and put "When Will we B Paid?"
on there, together with "One Song" at the end and
perhaps "My Medallion" instead of another one.

My favorit from that album is still "SM Groove",
with "Northside" as a close second. Not a great
track but it's simply good and a lot of fun to
listen to. Always makes me scream along in the
car and grin like an idiot.

U Make My Sunshine is probably my fave Prince song in the last 5 years. It's the one song I can honestly say I like as much as anything he did in the 80's.

A truly underappreciated gem.

NouveauDance said:

Fair enough, well argued.

I think with Prince leaking tracks early on the internet, his albums are going to get more like a Simpson's clip show episode, "50% all new material". Prince's albums are going to be "50% previously unheard tracks"!

I like it! It has some of prince's best songs of this decade.