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Reply #120 posted 09/09/05 10:33am

Lilith

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Alas, I am unfamiliar with "So Dark" and the other remixes of other songs. Deprived, I tell ya!

This technique, of putting a melody line together with another key, be it related or not, is kinda interesting and can really produce some interesting results. I love how some jazz artists reharmonize a well-known piece and make it sound completely new.



*****Yeah, think about "Summertime"...there r lot of versions.....I bet ya know this song....which version do u prefer?
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Reply #121 posted 09/10/05 7:07pm

Ice9sFine

Lilith said:

Ice9sFine said:

Alas, I am unfamiliar with "So Dark" and the other remixes of other songs. Deprived, I tell ya!

This technique, of putting a melody line together with another key, be it related or not, is kinda interesting and can really produce some interesting results. I love how some jazz artists reharmonize a well-known piece and make it sound completely new.



*****Yeah, think about "Summertime"...there r lot of versions.....I bet ya know this song....which version do u prefer?


Oh, I heard so many versions of "Summertime..." I like Fantasia Barrino's version. Really nice string arrangement.

I've also played this in a jazz combo as latin-style, rather than the usual swing.
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Reply #122 posted 09/10/05 7:28pm

ufoclub

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what is the key and chords of "magnificent"?
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Reply #123 posted 09/12/05 4:49am

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ufoclub said:

what is the key and chords of "magnificent"?

The key is definitely A minor - not sure what the chords are...
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Reply #124 posted 09/12/05 8:08am

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squirrelgrease said:

Ice9sFine said:



Well, if you wanted to get technical, the song is really in G Dorian, which is, key signature-wise, the same as F major, but is more closely related to G minor than F major.

For example, you wouldn't say "Oye Como Va," which is in A Dorian, is in the key of G major, would you?

And to add to the confusion, the vocal line is kinda sung in B-flat major. Really, we could start an entire thread on Prince songs in which his singing implies a different key than the one in which the song is written or played. A few examples:

- "Sign 'O' The Times" has a bass line that is mostly C minor, but Prince sings the verses in C Mixolydian.

- "17 Days" is in G minor, but the vocal lines imply B-flat major and even F major over that.

- "Hello" (and many other Prince songs, for that matter) seems to simultaneously function as a song in B-flat major and B-flat minor.

- "7" (and yet many more songs) has a bass line that vamps over the phrase: "A...E G E G E A...E G E G E," and yet Prince's vocals will sing an E7 chord over the same line. Usually, the G-natural in the bass and G-sharp in the voice would clash, but it works.

Leave it to a genius like Prince to come up with those crazy sonic combinations that work like a dream.


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tho his informative post didn't bother me...this was still as funny as hell.....SO appropriate!




this stuff does fascinate me. Like is some of it doen on purpose...or does it happen without him knowing it's going on, just knows he enjoys the sound. U know...like a chemist who's fuckin around...and accidentally makes rubber....or is fuckin around and makes gold on accident....like they didn't know it was gonna happen but it did. Does Prince plan these things or do they just happen on accident.
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Reply #125 posted 09/12/05 12:13pm

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"by accident"
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Reply #126 posted 09/14/05 8:14am

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calldapplwondery83 said:

Call it a no-responses thread if u will! lol


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Reply #127 posted 09/14/05 8:38am

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paisley2002 said:

calldapplwondery83 said:

Call it a no-responses thread if u will! lol


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Yep, my face is red, I stand corrected!
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Reply #128 posted 09/14/05 2:51pm

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BobGeorge909 said:

...like a chemist who's fuckin around...and accidentally makes rubber....or is fuckin around and makes gold on accident....



Ummmmm ... just so you know ... rubber comes from trees, and gold is mined. No 'fuckin around' or 'accidents' involved.

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Reply #129 posted 10/07/05 8:19am

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wow. this is a great thread. i am a piano beginner, so after reading this, I have many questions...I will be back shortly with some of them wink
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Reply #130 posted 10/07/05 8:32am

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Ok, so here is my first question. Please forgive my limited knowledge, as I am just learning.

So, in learning music theory, I thought that you determined the key by looking at the last note and at the notatations at the beginning of the staff....is this not correct? How else do you determine what key is being played?

I have just recently learned how to form chords from the keys. The only keys I know so far are the majors and minors, I have not yet got into augmented, diminished, etc.

Second question, P's sheet music I assume was transcribed by WB, so that would mean that it is not always accurate, correct?
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Reply #131 posted 10/10/05 4:39am

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txladykat said:

Ok, so here is my first question. Please forgive my limited knowledge, as I am just learning.

So, in learning music theory, I thought that you determined the key by looking at the last note and at the notatations at the beginning of the staff....is this not correct? How else do you determine what key is being played?

I have just recently learned how to form chords from the keys. The only keys I know so far are the majors and minors, I have not yet got into augmented, diminished, etc.

Second question, P's sheet music I assume was transcribed by WB, so that would mean that it is not always accurate, correct?

I can answer your second question. You're right - it's not always accurate. Try playing the chords 2 some of his songs as they appear on the sheet music and then listen 2 the actual songs. You'll be making a face like this...hmm
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Reply #132 posted 10/10/05 6:52am

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paisley2002 said:

txladykat said:

Ok, so here is my first question. Please forgive my limited knowledge, as I am just learning.

So, in learning music theory, I thought that you determined the key by looking at the last note and at the notatations at the beginning of the staff....is this not correct? How else do you determine what key is being played?

I have just recently learned how to form chords from the keys. The only keys I know so far are the majors and minors, I have not yet got into augmented, diminished, etc.

Second question, P's sheet music I assume was transcribed by WB, so that would mean that it is not always accurate, correct?

I can answer your second question. You're right - it's not always accurate. Try playing the chords 2 some of his songs as they appear on the sheet music and then listen 2 the actual songs. You'll be making a face like this...hmm


Thanks, yea, cause I was playing one the other day (dont remember which one off hand) and when I came to a section of it and played it, I kept thinking to myself, "now this doesn't sound right", reread it, played it again, same thing. I was like confused
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Reply #133 posted 10/16/05 1:15pm

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I C the musicology thread continues
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Reply #134 posted 10/16/05 8:00pm

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This is my all time favourite thread. I am learning so much. This is the first thread I will actually print out. Good job guys. Especialy Paisley2002 for starting it.

OK a quick question. I was classically trained so my fingers are better than my ear. I am currently working on improving that. What ear training program(s) do you guys recommend?
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