I absolutely love the groove that is The War.
I can listen to that on repeat when i fall alseep (and have freaky dreams tho!)

I know it's a live performance at Paisley but I need to know WHO WAS THERE?
what was the vibe like bewfore and after this jam? how did it spring ourt of nowhere?

How much of the final tape ios live and how much is overdub?

Someones gotta have info on this recording

it's damn stunning!

Anyone?

Thanks



I Like it too.

I can listen to that on repeat when i fall alseep (and have freaky dreams tho!)

I was there and it happened very early in the morning - the sun was up as we left but the vibe probably wasn't that great because for much of the song Prince wasn't even on the stage instead choosing to speak into the mic from backstage. Also, there is like 25 minutes that thankfully didn't make the final cut because it was the loop over and over and over with Prince slowly introducing the bandmembers.

As we were leaving people either loved or hated it....i was probably in the latter category but these days listening to the cd I think it's OKAY (thank god for the edit).

lovemachine said:

cool...I was just about to mention that you were there. As complex as the lyrics are, do you think Prince was reading them from a paper backstage ? Would make sense, wouldn´t it ? I never thought about it until I read your remark about him not being on stage for a huge part of the song. I´ve always been wondering how he managed to bring his message across without repeating himself..
couls you give a brief description of the performance ? I mean, at which point of the song did he come out on stage etc .?
And which guitar did he play ?

KoolEaze said:

Prince was on stage for most of what you hear during the cd if I recall it was just the first 25 minutes he wasn't there which killed the vibe (plus we had all waited SO long for him to take the stage in the first place and then this long intro). As for the guitar - I can't remember but I am guessing one of the symbol guitars (It was before Habibi if I remember).

I absolutely love the groove that is The War.
I can listen to that on repeat when i fall alseep (and have freaky dreams tho!)

I know it's a live performance at Paisley but I need to know WHO WAS THERE?
what was the vibe like bewfore and after this jam? how did it spring ourt of nowhere?

How much of the final tape ios live and how much is overdub?

Someones gotta have info on this recording

it's damn stunning!

Anyone?

Thanks

"The Wars" Cousin is Coming. (a sequel)

Is THE WAR available on CD???? I have yet to hear this jam in its entirety, only little snippets??

HELP!

All this is way old news, human micro-chipped population, military/underground bases used to house people when Martial Law is declared.

Prince is no profit, he's just a conspiracy theorist.

NouveauDance said:

"Old News", Are you saying this already in existence???

NouveauDance said:

"Old News", Are you saying this already in existence???

Astasheiks said:

Of course, and has been for years.

I remember seeing news articles about the technology existing as far back as 1992.

The verichip and such have been around for years, and I guess no-one wants to be chipped, so the technology will be introduced probably as a both a functional and fashion item - functional in personal safety, and fashion as in how they may market it - a little like cell phones, almost every kid has one now and no-one thinks twice about it.

There were news reports a year or two back about a nightclub (I think it was in Spain), where to gain access you had to have your hand chipped for membership - that's the kind of marketing I'm referring to.

I bet anything Prince was reading stuff (in newspapers, on the net) about a lot of technological, historical and conspiracy-related stuff in the 90s.

Didn't he say Emancipation was inspired by/related to the measurements of the Pyramids?

Which makes me wonder why he fell into the JW trap, it seems to go against all the stuff he was putting into his lyrics and interviews in the late 90s.

8/22/2005

Techno-generation Cash, card or microchip

In association with Toyota Prius

At a bar in Barcelona, select clientele can pay for drinks and access the VIP lounge at the scan of a tiny implanted digital tag. Julius Purcell goes where the chip crowd go

On a warm summer night in Barcelona, the dance floor of the Baja Beach Club is a writhing mass of locals and tourists. The normal punters here still have to go through the tiresome rituals of queuing for entry, waiting at the bar, fumbling for change, and fretting about the safety of their wallets. But for the lucky members of the Baja's VIP lounge, a magic chip implanted in their arm does it all for them. The cybernetic disco has arrived.

It's midnight, and time for the VIP lounge to open. Footballers Ronaldinho and Eto'o are sometimes here, though apparently not tonight. At the entrance, there's no lists of names, just a computer. Baja Beach Club director Conrad Chase is on hand to show how it works.

"Some of us who work at Baja already have the implant," he explains, rolling up his sleeve. "It's somewhere about here..." he murmurs, feeling his upper arm. He runs the scanner device over himself, and the computer instantly reads his 16-digit ID code. A photo pops up on the screen with his name, and the security man jokily waves the boss through.

Chase is a dynamic, bouncy American, always with an eye on the next new thing. He's also a household name in Spain, having just starred in the country's Big Brother, which may explain why he's just been mobbed by a crowd of Spanish girls wanting his photo.

"Actually, we started the VIP bar precisely to stop our famous guests getting mobbed," he explains, with a touch of fellow feeling. "We wanted to offer them a membership card that was modern and cool, and it was then, last year, that I discovered the chip idea on some geek website."

VeriChip, as the technology is called, is manufactured by Applied Digital Solutions, a Florida-based company, and so far is the only chip on the market that can be embedded in humans. The chip is tiny, about the size of a pen point, and can be painlessly injected into the arm by any qualified nurse (Chase insists that at the Baja they only do this "early in the evening"). The scanning software, VeriPay, is operated by Windows.

Currently, there are more than 90 chipped VIP members of the Baja; staff won't be drawn on whether these include Ronaldinho (not all VIPs have opted for the device). Those that have, Chase explains, can run a tab on a central computer, which they can check up on with a wave of the arm. Chase is keen to point out the impossibility of credit-card details somehow leaking out. "It's a closed, pre-pay system we use here. Bills for drinks are simply debited off their Baja accounts."

He does admit that the chips seem to make his guests spend more money. "People like to play with it; they want to see the system working."
The technology is still very much a novelty. Chase, who says the Baja in Barcelona was the first disco in the world to use VeriChip, has now introduced it in its sister club in Rotterdam. He also knows of clubs in London and Miami which are considering buying it.

Applied Digital has been manufacturing electronic chips for years, mainly as a tagging device for the movement of goods, salmon stocks and domestic animals. Then, last autumn, the US Food and Drug Administration cleared the use of the VeriChip for implanting medical details in patients, a potential life-saver at accident scenes. With this official thumbs-up, use of VeriChip in humans could spread across various sectors. Along with leisure applications such as those at the Baja, implanted chips can be used by office staff and security officers to access restricted areas.

Applied Digital's director of technical solutions, Craig J Almaraz, says that the company does not know, for privacy reasons, how many people now have chips implanted in them. The applications such chips will be put to, he predicts, will also vary from place to place: "I foresee the security market growing worldwide, while in the US it will be more towards the healthcare area," he says.

Almaraz stresses that VeriChip is a passive tagging device: it can only reveal its encrypted data when "woken up" by the external Applied Digital-manufactured scanner. Although Applied Digital also produces active tracking devices, the need for a power supply means that these are still fairly chunky affairs - certainly, for now, far to big to implant.

Given the novelty of such technology, it's impossible not to speculate on its future uses. Will a chip ever be able to detect cancer? Almaraz doesn't see why "multiple bio-sensing capabilities" couldn't eventually be developed.

One application that may be realised rather sooner is the VeriChip's use in a "smart gun". Firearms manufacturer FN Herstal is researching the possibilities of installing VeriChip-readers in its guns. Only the owner, who has the corresponding chip implanted in their hand, will then be able to fire it.

While the Baja Beach Club's innovative use of the VeriChip has caused much interest, Almaraz says that nobody can predict with any accuracy if credit cards, ID and keys will one day all be bundled into one tiny personal chip. Privacy and fraud concerns aside, chips with everything is a tantalising proposition. "My own personal opinion," Almaraz says, "is that this is where technology and evolution is now moving us."

© 2005 Independent News & Media (UK) Ltd.

Microchip in Yo Neck...
[Edited 8/22/05 7:10am]

I guess u didn't read the above article I posted today, its talking about the Club in Spain; it is supposed to be first Club to use this Chip.

I should clarify I know the chip has been around; I was talking about when you said, military/underground bases used to house people when Martial Law is declared.

Astasheiks said:

My apologies, I didn't read it past the header, no. The Spain story is quite old though, I'm surprised the date of this article is so recent.

Astasheiks said:

Well, I think what Prince is referring to in The War when he's talking about underground cities is a proposed event (terrorist/ecological etc) where the US Government will impliment Martial Law, or offer a solution to the population, where in exchange for the microchip, they will be offered food and shelter.

Prince's infers in the song that such a situation shall be created purposely, in order to bring about the compulsory human microchipping.

This pretty much follows popular 'New World Order' conspiracy theory. It also follows the conspiracy theory on a Christian path, since many Christians who have an interest in this area relate the microchip to certain parts of Revelations in the Bible, as does Prince -- "We know your name, it's The Beast".

There has been much written about the future implimentation of Martial Law in the US, along with the use of military bases when such a situation arises, I imagine a quick search in Google would bring up a few interesting pieces, just avoid the foil-hat wearing kooks who throw up a site on something like geocities.com

Astasheiks said:

My apologies, I didn't read it past the header, no. The Spain story is quite old though, I'm surprised the date of this article is so recent.

Astasheiks said:

Well, I think what Prince is referring to in The War when he's talking about underground cities is a proposed event (terrorist/ecological etc) where the US Government will impliment Martial Law, or offer a solution to the population, where in exchange for the microchip, they will be offered food and shelter.

Prince's infers in the song that such a situation shall be created purposely, in order to bring about the compulsory human microchipping.

This pretty much follows popular 'New World Order' conspiracy theory. It also follows the conspiracy theory on a Christian path, since many Christians who have an interest in this area relate the microchip to certain parts of Revelations in the Bible, as does Prince -- "We know your name, it's The Beast".

There has been much written about the future implimentation of Martial Law in the US, along with the use of military bases when such a situation arises, I imagine a quick search in Google would bring up a few interesting pieces, just avoid the foil-hat wearing kooks who throw up a site on something like geocities.com

Moonwalkbjrain said:

Don't worry too much, it's called conspiracy theory for a reason.

But it still wouldn't hurt to look into it, it makes interesting reading if nothing else.

Well, I think what Prince is referring to in The War when he's talking about underground cities is a proposed event (terrorist/ecological etc) where the US Government will impliment Martial Law, or offer a solution to the population, where in exchange for the microchip, they will be offered food and shelter.

Prince's infers in the song that such a situation shall be created purposely, in order to bring about the compulsory human microchipping.