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PrintableLadyB0yCabDriver said: zeusfiction0 said: The guitar "purists" don't wanna give Prince his due and I think it's a race issue. Underrated?!?! By whom? THEY know homey can throw down.
Sh*t, Eric Gales is up there too, but who knows about him? We all know Lenny Kravitz but I'm impressed with little he does except for the album he produced for Cree Summer. Lenny Kravitz can't play no guitar..that Muthafucka should join the group Status Quo with his 3 chord playin' ass  
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LadyB0yCabDriver said: zeusfiction0 said: The guitar "purists" don't wanna give Prince his due and I think it's a race issue. Underrated?!?! By whom? THEY know homey can throw down.
Sh*t, Eric Gales is up there too, but who knows about him? We all know Lenny Kravitz but I'm impressed with little he does except for the album he produced for Cree Summer. Lenny Kravitz can't play no guitar..that Muthafucka should join the group Status Quo with his 3 chord playin' ass That's funny as a motherfucker. And it's damn near true! I dig Lenny, always have. But no, Lenny is NOT a lead guitarist. SynthiaRose said "I'm in love with blackguitaristz. Especially when he talks about Hendrix."
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blackguitaristz said: LadyB0yCabDriver said: Lenny Kravitz can't play no guitar..that Muthafucka should join the group Status Quo with his 3 chord playin' ass That's funny as a motherfucker. And it's damn near true! I dig Lenny, always have. But no, Lenny is NOT a lead guitarist.  This is the truth. | |
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blackguitaristz said: LadyB0yCabDriver said: Lenny Kravitz can't play no guitar..that Muthafucka should join the group Status Quo with his 3 chord playin' ass That's funny as a motherfucker. And it's damn near true! I dig Lenny, always have. But no, Lenny is NOT a lead guitarist. It's weird how people think Lenny can play amazing guitar and shit...don't these people pay attention...he knows 3 chords tops! Don't believe me....just watch the way Prince makes him look a fool on the 'Rave Un2 the year 2000 DVD'
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DorothyParkerWasCool said: blackguitaristz said: This topic has been brought up so many times on this site. What I have seen is that if a thread about this is placed in Music and More, then most of the posts will definately say that P is not only the greatest guitarist but the greatest ANYTHING. But, when this is over in Non Music, where many of the musicians hang, including myself, the opinion is very different. My stand has always been this: Prince is an excellent guitarist and he is an excellent showman on the guitar. I never get caught up in the "who's better than" shit cuz it's all a matter of opinion and taste. What u believe is what u believe, regardless in what anyone else say. What u and I say does not make it gospel. That said, I have always felt P is underrated as a guitarist. Doesn't mean that a lot of folks who don't give it up to P doesn't know that P can play, cuz they do know. He gets a lot of praise from other known guitarists, as well as he should. P has been in the game as a pro since 1978. I rank P in my top 20 all time great guitarists. Is he at the top of that list? Hell nah. Jimi is. But, P is in there. P can definately hold more than his own as a lead guitarist. He always has. But where P really fucks up a lot of the other great guitarists is with his rhythm playing. P can run circles around many of the greats with just that alone, and then to throw in his lead skills, well....enough said.
BG you always come with it. Excellent post!!! That's why I always give Prince much love because he can play rhythm guitar better than most people play lead. Okay...BG makes a lot of sense...I would like to add that just saying Prince is deserving of being mentioned in the top 30 to top 20 great guitarists is a triumph for the little man...It was only 20 years ago when the man was looked at by his fellow guitarists as all flash and no substance on the ax...I personally would put the man in my top 35 to top 25...You have to realize that there are some tough guys to beat out in the second tier level of great ax-men(Ron Wood, Mick Ronson, Steve Stevens ect...)..But for the most part, BG is right in his reasoning...P's rhythm guitar and his ability to play lead is what distingushes him from some of the greats...His rhythm guitar is that sick.... | |
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I still don't get why Prince didn't play all the guitar on The Truth. All you others say Hell Yea!!  | |
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2freaky4church1 said: Don't forget, Prince has always held back, guitar wise. He could blow away anybody, I'd think. Notice how easily he plays the thing in concert.
I agree with this. That's why he waited until he got into the hall of fame to NOT HOLD BACK and LET LOOSE LOL | |
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I also agree with blackguitarist...Prince is one HELL of a rhythm guitarist, my GOD....he is just ILL on rhythm guitar. Shit, sometimes I think I enjoy his rhymthm playing more than his leads. (I can't believe I said that) | |
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CreamyThighs said:[quote]I also agree with blackguitarist...
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Yes. Not for his soloing actually. I think of Prince as one of the best because of his versatility and creativity. My thoughts on what makes a great guitarist include songwriting ability, showmanship, creativity and of course having a unique style and tone. Prince has all of those down pat.
I think comparing him to Santana and Clapton is a bit limiting. I love both of their playing, but I tend to put Prince up against the top jazz/fusion guitarists I enjoy, like Mike Stern and Scott Henderson. I'm not meaning to upset anyone by saying this, but these guys have much more creative chops, much more technical ability, and a more innovative style. With that said, Stern and Henderson can't write songs like Prince can, or perform like him. Prince has grown as a player greatly in the past few years, which I first noticed on the ONA tour. He is raising his game, and I think he will soon be on the jazz/fusion guitarist level really soon. One of the things that continues to impress me about the guy is he never stops evolving, and his playing keeps improving. [Edited 8/25/05 17:06pm] |
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zeusfiction0 said: Sh*t, Eric Gales is up there too, but who knows about him? Glad to hear someone remembered Eric! He was a teen wunderkind back in '91, gettin' exposure on Arsenio Hall and props from Carlos Santana. The dude (and his brothers) are some geetar-playin' mofos! I saw Eric in NYC back in '01 - dude was on fire! For his encore, he did some Hendrix and tore it up. He's been awol from recording anything new for awhile, but I heard he still tears it up down there in the Memphis clubs. Check out The Eric Gales Band and his solo joint - the dude can PLAY. My author page: https://www.amazon.com/au...eretttruth | |
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Most of us don't know anything about guitar playing really. I've heard it said by knowledgable people that Page and Clapton weren't really all that good. Don't know, don't care, I know that that Rock and Roll Hall of Fame performance moved me more than anyone ever on the instrument, Prince is definitely one of them. Problem with guitarists is that they are a dime a dozen, there are thousands of average joe's that can play on a professional level. Doesn't mean much really. | |
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blackguitaristz said: But where P really fucks up a lot of the other great guitarists is with his rhythm playing. P can run circles around many of the greats with just that alone, and then to throw in his lead skills, well....enough said.
Can anyone give me examples of P's great rhythm guitar playing on his albums, so I can check them out? Thanks. | |
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ConsciousContact said: blackguitaristz said: But where P really fucks up a lot of the other great guitarists is with his rhythm playing. P can run circles around many of the greats with just that alone, and then to throw in his lead skills, well....enough said.
Can anyone give me examples of P's great rhythm guitar playing on his albums, so I can check them out? Thanks. I would definately suggest 79-85 period. This is what I favor anyways. During this period, he plays tons of rhythm on tracks. Take your pick off of his 1999 album, his playing on the cuts "Controversy", and "Sexuality" are on it as well. "Lady Cab Driver" goes without saying. He's also cutting it up on "Hello". Back pedal to "Sexy Dancer". Those are a few examples. SynthiaRose said "I'm in love with blackguitaristz. Especially when he talks about Hendrix."
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blackguitaristz said: ConsciousContact said: Can anyone give me examples of P's great rhythm guitar playing on his albums, so I can check them out? Thanks. I would definately suggest 79-85 period. This is what I favor anyways. During this period, he plays tons of rhythm on tracks. Take your pick off of his 1999 album, his playing on the cuts "Controversy", and "Sexuality" are on it as well. "Lady Cab Driver" goes without saying. He's also cutting it up on "Hello". Back pedal to "Sexy Dancer". Those are a few examples. Also too many live tracks from Aftershows to list here, mostly recent shows. Anybody know the House-like version of Pass the Peas from the Fillmore 2004? HOT! | |
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I would put it like this: Prince is so talented musically and artiscly = has a lot of creativity in him! Thats 4 sure, yall know.. More so than Clapton Santana Hendrix and Steve Vai.. When it comes to playing guitar they might be more technical and all, but Prince is more Musical, simply I believe his Musical Intelligence s way beyond theirs, and therefore I love so much more Prince's play and note pickings on the guitar, his flow and musical talents are really Beautifull, I just love his guitar play, and find Vai and Clapton Santana's guitar play not so interesting, it's fasdt and technical, a bit like a programmed robot in the future would play the electric guitar.. So when it comes to Music=> PRiNCE true  The Beautiful Ones
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As a guitarist myself, I'd have to have him down on my list as the best in terms of being versatile and pretty much excelling at whatever style he's playing in.
I also recall reading an interview with Satriani a few years back where he extolled the virtues of the little man, exclaiming that he was easily one of the most underrated guitar players around. | |
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mozfonky said: Problem with guitarists is that they are a dime a dozen, there are thousands of average joe's that can play on a professional level. Doesn't mean much really.
It means something to those "average joes" who spent the time learning to play on a professional level. Now, if we're talkin' about the cats that come to show off/shoot their wads down at Guitar Center on Saturdays, that can get annoying... My author page: https://www.amazon.com/au...eretttruth | |
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amo84 said: I love so much more Prince's play and note pickings on the guitar, his flow and musical talents are really Beautifull, I just love his guitar play, and find Vai and Clapton Santana's guitar play not so interesting, it's fasdt and technical, a bit like a programmed robot in the future would play the electric guitar.. So when it comes to Music=> PRiNCE true Obviously, you must not have heard too much of Clapton and Santana's playing - they are anything but "programmed robots, nor are they considered "fast and technical." They are more associated with the class of "feel" guitarists. Just admit that Prince is your favorite and leave it at that  My author page: https://www.amazon.com/au...eretttruth | |
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JesseDezz said: amo84 said: I love so much more Prince's play and note pickings on the guitar, his flow and musical talents are really Beautifull, I just love his guitar play, and find Vai and Clapton Santana's guitar play not so interesting, it's fasdt and technical, a bit like a programmed robot in the future would play the electric guitar.. So when it comes to Music=> PRiNCE true Obviously, you must not have heard too much of Clapton and Santana's playing - they are anything but "programmed robots, nor are they considered "fast and technical." They are more associated with the class of "feel" guitarists. Just admit that Prince is your favorite and leave it at that yearh youre probably right,,, i know they arent robots, just like prince more... subjective taste  The Beautiful Ones
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| There is no doubt in my mind that Prince is one of the world's greatest guitarists... Prince says my name in one of his songs. In Little Red Corvette, he says, "Liz is on the verge of being obscene" Ha, ha, just kidding. But seriously. | |
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Anxiety said: i remember some stoner metalhead guy when i in high school telling me that he could play any prince guitar solo with one hand because they're so easy to play.
of course, he never demonstrated this for me, which led me to believe that the guy might have had a particular one-handed talent, but it wasn't playing prince songs on his guitar...  Oh S**T!!!!  VERY nice....  
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blackguitaristz said: This topic has been brought up so many times on this site. What I have seen is that if a thread about this is placed in Music and More, then most of the posts will definately say that P is not only the greatest guitarist but the greatest ANYTHING. But, when this is over in Non Music, where many of the musicians hang, including myself, the opinion is very different. My stand has always been this: Prince is an excellent guitarist and he is an excellent showman on the guitar. I never get caught up in the "who's better than" shit cuz it's all a matter of opinion and taste. What u believe is what u believe, regardless in what anyone else say. What u and I say does not make it gospel. That said, I have always felt P is underrated as a guitarist. Doesn't mean that a lot of folks who don't give it up to P doesn't know that P can play, cuz they do know. He gets a lot of praise from other known guitarists, as well as he should. P has been in the game as a pro since 1978. I rank P in my top 20 all time great guitarists. Is he at the top of that list? Hell nah. Jimi is. But, P is in there. P can definately hold more than his own as a lead guitarist. He always has. But where P really fucks up a lot of the other great guitarists is with his rhythm playing. P can run circles around many of the greats with just that alone, and then to throw in his lead skills, well....enough said.
In the past year, I've been studying guitar and speaking to a lot of accomplished guitarists of many different styles. Their consensus is that the man is not only underrated, but a serious bad-ass on guitar. Best ever? Too many great guitarists in the world for that. For me, he's absolutely my inspiration as the coolest, most inspirational guitarist and my gateway to a lifetime of appreciating and learning about music of all styles. His lead playing, especially live, is God-Damn amazing, but he may actually be one of the top three rhythm players in the world.
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Although, the guitar is my favorite instrument and Prince is one of my favorite guitarists. The notion that he is THE BEST is far form the truth IMHO. He is one of the best contemporary guitarists today but not the best. IMHO the best contemporary guitarist today is Marc Ford of the Black Crowes. No one plays with the sense of style and feel that this guy does. Next I would say Warren Haynes of Gov't Mule & the Allman Brothers. P Would probably be in the top 10-15 living guitarists today for me. Let's not Forget Craig Ross, Lenny Kravitz' guitarist, he is amazing! [Edited 8/28/05 8:29am] | |
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Yeah, this topic has been well-over-argued on this site, but I like it that the header was "one of the greatest". Why y'all arguing "best - not best" whichof course, as has been said, is pretty meaningless?
I think that the consensus is that he is "one of the greatest" although there's some argument as to how many youneed to include on that list. For me, the thing is WATCHING him with a guitar. The only other guitarist who appears to me so organic when he plays is Jimi. Watching both of them looks like the guitar is just another limb on their body. I think this stands out against others who are "just" guitarists - those others are busy PLAYING the guitar, whereas for Jimi and Prince the amazing guitar-playing forms a part of the whole of their performance. My 2 cents! "We've never been able to pull off a funk number"
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ron wood better then prince
hahahahahaha man go and check princes version of miss u from 2004 aftershow it sounds like hendrix playing | |
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