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Reply #30 posted 08/25/05 1:36am

GangstaFam

I love the dichotomy of this thread!
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Reply #31 posted 08/25/05 1:45am

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I'd most definitely put him up there with the best. Very few people believe me when I say so and just laugh at the idea. They've obviously never seen him live.
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Reply #32 posted 08/25/05 1:48am

MadameS

Rinluv said:

Oliver said:



Agreed, but not the greatest!

WouId U say he's one of the greatest? Cuz I do.

cool
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Reply #33 posted 08/25/05 1:59am

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Reply #34 posted 08/25/05 2:04am

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lilgish said:

Love2tha9s said:



Not what?


one of the world's greatest guitarists.....


you mean he's not one of the greatest guitarists but is the greatest?
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Reply #35 posted 08/25/05 2:14am

Anxiety

everyone always leaves thurston moore out of these 'greatest guitarist' thingums, and it ticks me off! he may not be "THE" best, but he's certainly up there.

just hadda say it. that is all. thank you.
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Reply #36 posted 08/25/05 2:31am

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He's good no doubt but not on the same level as people like Slash, Eddie Van Halen, Jimmy Page.
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Reply #37 posted 08/25/05 2:40am

Novabreaker

No.
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Reply #38 posted 08/25/05 2:43am

Oliver

Rinluv said:

Oliver said:



Agreed, but not the greatest!

WouId U say he's one of the greatest? Cuz I do.


I definately agree w/ U.
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Reply #39 posted 08/25/05 2:46am

Oliver

LadyB0yCabDriver said:

Everyone on this thread is either retarded or on crack!!

OF COURSE PRINCE IS THE GREATEST GUITARIST...EVER!


The term 'Great' extends beyond all Ur geeky bullshit and technical nonsense about 'missing a note' and 'getting stuck' ...'Great' is all about Presence and excuse me, but so far no1 has EVER played a guitar and got a greater reaction than Prince...thats why he's the greatest dancer, singer and muscian ever..yes of all time...cos he can do it all and get the greatest reaction from his audience


Jimi, Vai, satana etc may be able 2 do shit P can't do but can they do this...




hmmm no?


well then shutdafuckup smoker


It's so sad when people like ladyboy wanna diss others just because they don't think Prince's shi* smellsl like Roses.

While we're at it, lets say Prince is the best in everything he does compared to the rest of the world and artists.
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Reply #40 posted 08/25/05 2:48am

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Oliver said:

LadyB0yCabDriver said:

Everyone on this thread is either retarded or on crack!!

OF COURSE PRINCE IS THE GREATEST GUITARIST...EVER!


The term 'Great' extends beyond all Ur geeky bullshit and technical nonsense about 'missing a note' and 'getting stuck' ...'Great' is all about Presence and excuse me, but so far no1 has EVER played a guitar and got a greater reaction than Prince...thats why he's the greatest dancer, singer and muscian ever..yes of all time...cos he can do it all and get the greatest reaction from his audience


Jimi, Vai, satana etc may be able 2 do shit P can't do but can they do this...




hmmm no?


well then shutdafuckup smoker


It's so sad when people like ladyboy wanna diss others just because they don't think Prince's shi* smellsl like Roses.

While we're at it, lets say Prince is the best in everything he does compared to the rest of the world and artists.



Awwww pat
Don't take my words so seriously...My org name's LadyBoy 4 fuck sake and just look at my avvie...It's all in jest lol
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Reply #41 posted 08/25/05 2:49am

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By the way...can I get some of that prince Rose poo on ebay neutral
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Reply #42 posted 08/25/05 2:55am

Oliver

LadyB0yCabDriver said:

Oliver said:



It's so sad when people like ladyboy wanna diss others just because they don't think Prince's shi* smellsl like Roses.

While we're at it, lets say Prince is the best in everything he does compared to the rest of the world and artists.



Awwww pat
Don't take my words so seriously...My org name's LadyBoy 4 fuck sake and just look at my avvie...It's all in jest lol


Alright.
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Reply #43 posted 08/25/05 3:00am

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Oliver said:

LadyB0yCabDriver said:




Awwww pat
Don't take my words so seriously...My org name's LadyBoy 4 fuck sake and just look at my avvie...It's all in jest lol


Alright.



No it's not alright..next time U talk back 2 me Im gonna gun U down, rip off Ur head and piss down Ur neck mad















damn that multiple personality disorder fit
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Reply #44 posted 08/25/05 3:05am

Oliver

LadyB0yCabDriver said:

Oliver said:



Alright.



No it's not alright..next time U talk back 2 me Im gonna gun U down, rip off Ur head and piss down Ur neck mad

Peace & hugs and chicken grease!














damn that multiple personality disorder fit
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Reply #45 posted 08/25/05 4:53am

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best is a hard word to use...he is one of the most versatile and gifted MUSICIANS in the bussiness PERIOD !! best means nothing...maybe in a punk band he would be too accomplished...maybe in a jazz group he would be lacking in his jazz chops because thats not his forte...if this thread said BEST FUNK GUITARIST then yes maybe...MAYBE he is the most innovative of our generation...but freddie stone...the cat from RUFUS...and several others may have torn him up in the 70's...THERE IS NO BEST !!! just BADASS !!! and that he is !!!!!
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Reply #46 posted 08/25/05 4:56am

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Best is a word I don´t really like because it´s all so relative.

Sure, technically there might be dozens of Spanish Flamenco virtuosos who can play stuff that Prince probably can´t, then again, maybe not.
And yes, Hendrix and Santana are among his heroes, so maybe he doesn´t even think about being better than his own heroes he admired in his youth, and of course there might be some Jazz masters like Django Reinhardt and George Benson who know their stuff or field better than Prince, and maybe some Rock legends like Brian May or Jimmy Page are technically better or were more creative, I really don´t know because I don´t play any instruments, but what I do know is that there is no other musician or guitarist, whether it be in Funk, Rock or whatever, who can touch my soul like the music of Prince. Steve Vai and Santana are great, no doubt about that, and Carlos Santana´s 70´s albums sometimes take me to another dimension, but nobody comes even close to Prince in my personal Universe.
So therefore, for me, he´s the best guitarist I know, and even his heroes and peers pay their respect and acknowledge him as one of the best out there.
And Prince plays other instruments as well.....who knows how much better he could be on guitar if he played nothing else but guitar ?

Producing songs, having his own studio complex, being his own manager, playing almost every instrument he needs in his music, arranging and composing stuff,
playing and mixing so many different genres of music...give the man a break, he´s simply incredible and probably one of the most unique musicians ever.

So, that being said, I guess it all boils down to how you look at it.

I don´t know about techniques and chords and notes and complicated structures, but I do know that the 14 minute rehearsal version of Something In the Water from 1984 and Just My Imagination from that infamous 1988 aftershow or Shhh live
give me a certain high that other musicaians don´t.
That´s all.
[Edited 8/25/05 4:58am]
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Reply #47 posted 08/25/05 5:08am

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Well he obviously is one of the best ever! And he has something over alot of other guitarists...He can do MANY styles, and do them all very good cool
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Reply #48 posted 08/25/05 5:41am

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KoolEaze said:

Best is a word I don´t really like because it´s all so relative.

Sure, technically there might be dozens of Spanish Flamenco virtuosos who can play stuff that Prince probably can´t, then again, maybe not.
And yes, Hendrix and Santana are among his heroes, so maybe he doesn´t even think about being better than his own heroes he admired in his youth, and of course there might be some Jazz masters like Django Reinhardt and George Benson who know their stuff or field better than Prince, and maybe some Rock legends like Brian May or Jimmy Page are technically better or were more creative, I really don´t know because I don´t play any instruments, but what I do know is that there is no other musician or guitarist, whether it be in Funk, Rock or whatever, who can touch my soul like the music of Prince. Steve Vai and Santana are great, no doubt about that, and Carlos Santana´s 70´s albums sometimes take me to another dimension, but nobody comes even close to Prince in my personal Universe.
So therefore, for me, he´s the best guitarist I know, and even his heroes and peers pay their respect and acknowledge him as one of the best out there.
And Prince plays other instruments as well.....who knows how much better he could be on guitar if he played nothing else but guitar ?

Producing songs, having his own studio complex, being his own manager, playing almost every instrument he needs in his music, arranging and composing stuff,
playing and mixing so many different genres of music...give the man a break, he´s simply incredible and probably one of the most unique musicians ever.

So, that being said, I guess it all boils down to how you look at it.

I don´t know about techniques and chords and notes and complicated structures, but I do know that the 14 minute rehearsal version of Something In the Water from 1984 and Just My Imagination from that infamous 1988 aftershow or Shhh live
give me a certain high that other musicaians don´t.
That´s all.
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KoolEaze I agree with Everything u just said.
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Reply #49 posted 08/25/05 7:22am

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KoolEaze said:

Best is a word I don´t really like because it´s all so relative.

Sure, technically there might be dozens of Spanish Flamenco virtuosos who can play stuff that Prince probably can´t, then again, maybe not.
And yes, Hendrix and Santana are among his heroes, so maybe he doesn´t even think about being better than his own heroes he admired in his youth, and of course there might be some Jazz masters like Django Reinhardt and George Benson who know their stuff or field better than Prince, and maybe some Rock legends like Brian May or Jimmy Page are technically better or were more creative, I really don´t know because I don´t play any instruments, but what I do know is that there is no other musician or guitarist, whether it be in Funk, Rock or whatever, who can touch my soul like the music of Prince. Steve Vai and Santana are great, no doubt about that, and Carlos Santana´s 70´s albums sometimes take me to another dimension, but nobody comes even close to Prince in my personal Universe.
So therefore, for me, he´s the best guitarist I know, and even his heroes and peers pay their respect and acknowledge him as one of the best out there.
And Prince plays other instruments as well.....who knows how much better he could be on guitar if he played nothing else but guitar ?

Producing songs, having his own studio complex, being his own manager, playing almost every instrument he needs in his music, arranging and composing stuff,
playing and mixing so many different genres of music...give the man a break, he´s simply incredible and probably one of the most unique musicians ever.

So, that being said, I guess it all boils down to how you look at it.

I don´t know about techniques and chords and notes and complicated structures, but I do know that the 14 minute rehearsal version of Something In the Water from 1984 and Just My Imagination from that infamous 1988 aftershow or Shhh live
give me a certain high that other musicaians don´t.
That´s all.
[Edited 8/25/05 4:58am]



I agree with what you are saying. He touches on so many styles of music and passes to a great degree. What can be said is that his live playing is where he stands out above the rest. He is probably in my opinion one of the best overall guitarists of our time. I have witnessed him playing beautifully live, unfortunately, he rarely crosses that magic over to his studio recordings. Like someone said before, the mix puts the guitar work in the back.

I think that P thinks that in his concerts the audience wants to hear some mad guitar playing, but he holds back on his releases fearing it too much for your 'at home' listening pleasures. We all know that P can pull off some crazy playing, but he will never lay his wizardly skills down to tape like we want him to. It's a shame, he has too much 'Prince' in him to just go out and be a guitar legend. That's OK with me though. I'm tired of telling non-Prince Fans how good he is at guitar playing.
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Reply #50 posted 08/25/05 8:43am

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check out prince video(audio recording is there also) of
prince playing "we gonna make it funky"
he played clean guitar licks so funky in the same time rhythm and lead huitar.
he was amazing.
i would like to see clapton or santana or even yngwie play that stuff.
yngwie is lead guitar master but he cant play rhythm.
clapton is good on rhythm but his style is not so diverse,
althought all props to "i shot the sherriff" from crossroads dvd.
clapton tore that solo.
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Reply #51 posted 08/25/05 9:13am

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I really just wanted to start some discussion guys and it looks like I did.
I think they're some really interesting responses here.
I won't say he's the greatest ever after reading some stuff but I will say I think he's up there along side them and could hang with them. I do also really like others like Eric, Jimi, and Slash (Slash can rock his a** off) and also I agree whether you think he's the greatest or not that mostly he's still underated. Thanks for your responses, pretty good thread so far. Me being an Aerosmith fan I must also say Joe Perry can play also!! cool
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Reply #52 posted 08/25/05 10:45am

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thebanishedone said:

check out prince video(audio recording is there also) of
prince playing "we gonna make it funky"
he played clean guitar licks so funky in the same time rhythm and lead huitar.
he was amazing.
i would like to see clapton or santana or even yngwie play that stuff.
yngwie is lead guitar master but he cant play rhythm.
clapton is good on rhythm but his style is not so diverse,
althought all props to "i shot the sherriff" from crossroads dvd.
clapton tore that solo.



Yeah, that was great! Kick my f*ckin' ass for losing the video...
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Reply #53 posted 08/25/05 10:54am

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Don't forget, Prince has always held back, guitar wise. He could blow away anybody, I'd think. Notice how easily he plays the thing in concert.
All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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Reply #54 posted 08/25/05 11:01am

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all symantics aside - no artist or band can run shivers down my spine and make me wiggle in my seat like Prince can.

Second is Robert Plant and Jimmy Page.

Then of course the old greats like Sly and Janice and the Woodstock stuff - uh oh, I'm showing my age.

Most of the new stuff just makes me want turn it off.
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Reply #55 posted 08/25/05 11:06am

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This topic has been brought up so many times on this site. What I have seen is that if a thread about this is placed in Music and More, then most of the posts will definately say that P is not only the greatest guitarist but the greatest ANYTHING. But, when this is over in Non Music, where many of the musicians hang, including myself, the opinion is very different. My stand has always been this: Prince is an excellent guitarist and he is an excellent showman on the guitar. I never get caught up in the "who's better than" shit cuz it's all a matter of opinion and taste. What u believe is what u believe, regardless in what anyone else say. What u and I say does not make it gospel. That said, I have always felt P is underrated as a guitarist. Doesn't mean that a lot of folks who don't give it up to P doesn't know that P can play, cuz they do know. He gets a lot of praise from other known guitarists, as well as he should. P has been in the game as a pro since 1978. I rank P in my top 20 all time great guitarists. Is he at the top of that list? Hell nah. Jimi is. But, P is in there. P can definately hold more than his own as a lead guitarist. He always has. But where P really fucks up a lot of the other great guitarists is with his rhythm playing. P can run circles around many of the greats with just that alone, and then to throw in his lead skills, well....enough said.
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Reply #56 posted 08/25/05 11:27am

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blackguitaristz said:

This topic has been brought up so many times on this site. What I have seen is that if a thread about this is placed in Music and More, then most of the posts will definately say that P is not only the greatest guitarist but the greatest ANYTHING. But, when this is over in Non Music, where many of the musicians hang, including myself, the opinion is very different. My stand has always been this: Prince is an excellent guitarist and he is an excellent showman on the guitar. I never get caught up in the "who's better than" shit cuz it's all a matter of opinion and taste. What u believe is what u believe, regardless in what anyone else say. What u and I say does not make it gospel. That said, I have always felt P is underrated as a guitarist. Doesn't mean that a lot of folks who don't give it up to P doesn't know that P can play, cuz they do know. He gets a lot of praise from other known guitarists, as well as he should. P has been in the game as a pro since 1978. I rank P in my top 20 all time great guitarists. Is he at the top of that list? Hell nah. Jimi is. But, P is in there. P can definately hold more than his own as a lead guitarist. He always has. But where P really fucks up a lot of the other great guitarists is with his rhythm playing. P can run circles around many of the greats with just that alone, and then to throw in his lead skills, well....enough said.



thumbs up!

'Nuff said! As always.
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Reply #57 posted 08/25/05 12:40pm

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blackguitaristz said:

This topic has been brought up so many times on this site. What I have seen is that if a thread about this is placed in Music and More, then most of the posts will definately say that P is not only the greatest guitarist but the greatest ANYTHING. But, when this is over in Non Music, where many of the musicians hang, including myself, the opinion is very different. My stand has always been this: Prince is an excellent guitarist and he is an excellent showman on the guitar. I never get caught up in the "who's better than" shit cuz it's all a matter of opinion and taste. What u believe is what u believe, regardless in what anyone else say. What u and I say does not make it gospel. That said, I have always felt P is underrated as a guitarist. Doesn't mean that a lot of folks who don't give it up to P doesn't know that P can play, cuz they do know. He gets a lot of praise from other known guitarists, as well as he should. P has been in the game as a pro since 1978. I rank P in my top 20 all time great guitarists. Is he at the top of that list? Hell nah. Jimi is. But, P is in there. P can definately hold more than his own as a lead guitarist. He always has. But where P really fucks up a lot of the other great guitarists is with his rhythm playing. P can run circles around many of the greats with just that alone, and then to throw in his lead skills, well....enough said.



BG you always come with it. Excellent post!!! That's why I always give Prince much love because he can play rhythm guitar better than most people play lead.
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Reply #58 posted 08/25/05 12:57pm

zeusfiction0

The guitar "purists" don't wanna give Prince his due and I think it's a race issue. Underrated?!?! By whom? THEY know homey can throw down.


Sh*t, Eric Gales is up there too, but who knows about him? We all know Lenny Kravitz but I'm impressed with little he does except for the album he produced for Cree Summer.
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Reply #59 posted 08/25/05 1:39pm

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zeusfiction0 said:

The guitar "purists" don't wanna give Prince his due and I think it's a race issue. Underrated?!?! By whom? THEY know homey can throw down.


Sh*t, Eric Gales is up there too, but who knows about him? We all know Lenny Kravitz but I'm impressed with little he does except for the album he produced for Cree Summer.


Lenny Kravitz can't play no guitar..that Muthafucka should join the group Status Quo with his 3 chord playin' ass falloff
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