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PrintableJust giving my opinion based on the reading I've done. Surprised I'm getting these type of reactions, this boards members usually have their Prince history down pretty well. His getting shoved around as a child was common knowledge for his hardcore fans. Like any third party observer, it's impossible to know much about what happened but from what I read Prince was kicked out and told someone "nothing happened but he won't believe that" apparently he was crying and upset. Getting back to the subject, I don't believe he had an average, easy childhood by any means. Only Prince knows, and it's really his business, he doesn't say much about such things and he doesn't have to. | |
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So I take it he was NOT the perfect son?
I guess being a great musician made up for not being a great son or husband  | |
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mozfonky said: Just giving my opinion based on the reading I've done. Surprised I'm getting these type of reactions, this boards members usually have their Prince history down pretty well. His getting shoved around as a child was common knowledge for his hardcore fans. Like any third party observer, it's impossible to know much about what happened but from what I read Prince was kicked out and told someone "nothing happened but he won't believe that" apparently he was crying and upset. Getting back to the subject, I don't believe he had an average, easy childhood by any means. Only Prince knows, and it's really his business, he doesn't say much about such things and he doesn't have to.
because a lot of the initial history on prince that was given out was a load of "crap". so thats why you are getting different takes on what happened.. and until prince comes out himself and tells HIStory....we gonna keep getting different theories.. its all in fun though..... Space for sale... | |
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sosgemini said: laurarichardson said: Let's just stop the pie in the sky nosense.
see, this statement right here was totally uncalled for..you had it going..you were posting well...you shared information that you knew, but then you just couldnt help let that inner-omen666 in you come out... when will you learn this is a forum for people to share their perspective and the information on subjects that they know..the information might not always be right..so clarify, judging people and making statements like the above does nobody any good... positivity, have you had your plus sign today? and for the record, i recalled reading about prince sitting in his living room as a kid listening to his dad play with famous folks..hey, i could be remembering the details wrong....ir i couldnt.... and by the way: what the fuck makes you think your nonsense isnt just that? all the shit we all post here is fucking nonsense...  ----- inner-omen666 WTF is that about (LOL) It is not that deep so please relax. I have read a lot about old boy and no one has ever mentioned his Dad playing with anyone famous or having a carreer that was any thing special. In fact his Dad worked in a electronics factory as his main job. I don't think you would have a regular gig if your music carreer was taking off. I also have been coming to this board a long time and I people are very dismissive about the issue of child abuse and negalect when it comes to Prince. We do see a lot of this in society in general. Dispute the fact that it goes on in the best of families. I find it a little irrating that people are willing to believe the abusers and not the abused. Just my two cents and trust me I have had my plus sing I just choose to deal with reality and not sugar coat things. | |
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Moonwalkbjrain said: mozfonky said: Well my sources indicate that he had it hard as a kid. His dad kicked him out, for having a girl in his room. His mom had an asshole of a boyfriend. Anyway, I don't think he started to become the egomaniac we know until he gained the control over his environment that he lacked as a child. This is the story that has gone around for years about prince. That he overcompensated for his childhood. He has all the signs of someone who has been traumatized by abandonment, control freak, trust issues. There is no such thing as a spoiled rocker, and that's what prince is, a rocker. After 18, ok, he was spoiled as an adult and got everything his way as much as possible.
yea and i wonder what the BACK STORY is behind that girl in the room shit. c'mon parents just dont kick ya out for mess with the ladies, UNLESS ur parents wakcka wacka. i just dont buy all this abused and used stuff, somethin just dont seem right. maybe its cuz hes been caught in lies about his life b4, i dunno, but i dont buy it all. overcompensated? (sooo not trynna turn this into one of THOSE threads) c'mon fonky, are u trynna say that cuz he had a "fucked" chilhood that he's got an excuse to be how he is? cuz in THAT case, mj got an excuse to be how HE is. ----- Having a bad childhood is not an excuse for being an asshole but, it is usually the reason. Do you think MJ does the things he does for no reason at all. Trust me childhood experiences can ruined people. | |
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laurarichardson said: Moonwalkbjrain said: yea and i wonder what the BACK STORY is behind that girl in the room shit. c'mon parents just dont kick ya out for mess with the ladies, UNLESS ur parents wakcka wacka. i just dont buy all this abused and used stuff, somethin just dont seem right. maybe its cuz hes been caught in lies about his life b4, i dunno, but i dont buy it all. overcompensated? (sooo not trynna turn this into one of THOSE threads) c'mon fonky, are u trynna say that cuz he had a "fucked" chilhood that he's got an excuse to be how he is? cuz in THAT case, mj got an excuse to be how HE is. ----- Having a bad childhood is not an excuse for being an asshole but, it is usually the reason. Do you think MJ does the things he does for no reason at all. Trust me childhood experiences can ruined people. i understand that and thats part of the point i was trynna make. if princes childhood can be considered part of the reason that he is how he is, than the same should apply for mj. but it doesnt usually. Yesterday is dead...tomorrow hasnt arrived yet....i have just ONE day...
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There really is no comparison between Prince's issues and Michael's. Being a driven, control freak who screams and yells to get his way is not illegal. What Michael was accused of was pretty serious. | |
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mozfonky said: There really is no comparison between Prince's issues and Michael's. Being a driven, control freak who screams and yells to get his way is not illegal. What Michael was accused of was pretty serious.
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mozfonky said: oh,umm sorry, I thought we meant a real traditional job which 95 percent of us have to have just to survive. I didn't know we were talking about his phenomenal work ethic or all the ass kissers who coddle him and who he can't really trust. I thought we meant a job where he might be a grunt, everyday grunt, someone subject to getting called into the office and getting his ass chewed like we do. I guess we weren't talking about that at all.
Yea, intially thats what I was referring to that "traditional job". |
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Moonwalkbjrain said: laurarichardson said: ----- Having a bad childhood is not an excuse for being an asshole but, it is usually the reason. Do you think MJ does the things he does for no reason at all. Trust me childhood experiences can ruined people. i understand that and thats part of the point i was trynna make. if princes childhood can be considered part of the reason that he is how he is, than the same should apply for mj. but it doesnt usually. ----- It does not apply to Mike because his actions are illegal and destructive to another young person. When your childhood demons make you physically or sexualy hurt other people all bets are off. | |
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mozfonky said: There really is no comparison between Prince's issues and Michael's. Being a driven, control freak who screams and yells to get his way is not illegal. What Michael was accused of was pretty serious.
yes there is. for every action theres a reaction mr. fozy. and be it rigt or wrong if princes childhood can be used as an example to say well thats why he is how he is than so can mjs. also, michael was just accused (and found innocent) so ur argument as hardly any grounds, now if he were found guilty than u coud say that. It does not apply to Mike because his actions are illegal and destructive to another young person. When your childhood demons make you physically or sexualy hurt other people all bets are off. really laura ara ya sure? cuz last time i checked mike was found innocent. AND thats a bit beside the point because princes actions are destructive as well. or does it only apply to "a young person" in your book? its like i said 4 every action there is a reaction, and be that reaction right or right wrong theres a reason for it, i'm not trynna make excuses for either of their actions i'm just sayin. and also how can u say that when u said this in a previous post Having a bad childhood is not an excuse for being an asshole but, it is usually the reason. Do you think MJ does the things he does for no reason at all.
Trust me childhood experiences can ruined people [Edited 8/22/05 23:22pm] Yesterday is dead...tomorrow hasnt arrived yet....i have just ONE day...
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