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PrintableMartyMcFly said: loisclark88 said: 
I agree with everything this person said. So, you wrote that shit?  Ok, so everything good said about it. Don't be rude. Everytime I comb my hair
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Musicology was the worst single for Prince ever. This topped the Betcha By Golly wow gymnast running to the hospital with his NPG Bubble Jacket/Moonwraps to the Delivery Room cut scene.
This tops the "Push it up" drivel It was Prince desperately trying to get in the clubs. (which I never will understand the fascination of desperately tryin to get somewhere that doesnt want him) There's nothing better than prince lecturing us what's wrong with music. Except maybe the Lecturing of the Truth. With that said it was his choice but someone is out of touch to reality to think by namechecking Doug E Fresh and Harlem that suddenly the Hip Hop audience is gonna embrace you. It was such a low pandering moment. let's not encourage this anymore. And let's not encourage Princes smooth jazz Vegas muzak excursions with smooth jazz alumni who smile excessively. dont even get me started on Life o The Party. Obviously that one was planned for a single but then when Cinammon Girl tanked he decided to call off the next video. He had 3 music videos off it and they all tanked. Im getting Rave Flashbacks. All that music video money could have gone to orphanages. flushes toilet:: The problem with Prince is when he sings something it's not convincing anymore. You get a shell of a song and you get Prince complaining because people dont want to listen to his records. I listened to Musicology twice. Is he a genius? I guess but it doesn't matter if he wants to stay in the game makin records for majors. Which it certainly looks like he does. And believe me alot of people who put up the video budget overhead are gonna think twice about fueling another Prince record. | |
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actually, granted it does sound like a dated out-take, "A Million Days" is STILL a top notch track on the album - much better than "Life Of The Party"!
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It's a decent album, but come on...I feel like I'm at a Michael Jackson site.... | |
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Trickology said: Musicology was the worst single for Prince ever. WTF!! i stopped reading at this point!!  | |
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Trickology said: Musicology was the worst single for Prince ever. This topped the Betcha By Golly wow gymnast running to the hospital with his NPG Bubble Jacket/Moonwraps to the Delivery Room cut scene.
This tops the "Push it up" drivel It was Prince desperately trying to get in the clubs. (which I never will understand the fascination of desperately tryin to get somewhere that doesnt want him) There's nothing better than prince lecturing us what's wrong with music. Except maybe the Lecturing of the Truth. With that said it was his choice but someone is out of touch to reality to think by namechecking Doug E Fresh and Harlem that suddenly the Hip Hop audience is gonna embrace you. It was such a low pandering moment. let's not encourage this anymore. And let's not encourage Princes smooth jazz Vegas muzak excursions with smooth jazz alumni who smile excessively. dont even get me started on Life o The Party. Obviously that one was planned for a single but then when Cinammon Girl tanked he decided to call off the next video. He had 3 music videos off it and they all tanked. Im getting Rave Flashbacks. All that music video money could have gone to orphanages. flushes toilet:: The problem with Prince is when he sings something it's not convincing anymore. You get a shell of a song and you get Prince complaining because people dont want to listen to his records. I listened to Musicology twice. Is he a genius? I guess but it doesn't matter if he wants to stay in the game makin records for majors. Which it certainly looks like he does. And believe me alot of people who put up the video budget overhead are gonna think twice about fueling another Prince record. folks, if u want a definition of a "Hater" here u have it. It just drips with venom and cynicalness. As if this person is some great genuis themselves. The reason Prince namechecked Dougie is because he is a personal friend of his. And really how many people who heard it even knew he was referring too. To call him on something so completly trivial backs up my point. Hater. | |
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tricky99 said: Trickology said: Musicology was the worst single for Prince ever. This topped the Betcha By Golly wow gymnast running to the hospital with his NPG Bubble Jacket/Moonwraps to the Delivery Room cut scene.
This tops the "Push it up" drivel It was Prince desperately trying to get in the clubs. (which I never will understand the fascination of desperately tryin to get somewhere that doesnt want him) There's nothing better than prince lecturing us what's wrong with music. Except maybe the Lecturing of the Truth. With that said it was his choice but someone is out of touch to reality to think by namechecking Doug E Fresh and Harlem that suddenly the Hip Hop audience is gonna embrace you. It was such a low pandering moment. let's not encourage this anymore. And let's not encourage Princes smooth jazz Vegas muzak excursions with smooth jazz alumni who smile excessively. dont even get me started on Life o The Party. Obviously that one was planned for a single but then when Cinammon Girl tanked he decided to call off the next video. He had 3 music videos off it and they all tanked. Im getting Rave Flashbacks. All that music video money could have gone to orphanages. flushes toilet:: The problem with Prince is when he sings something it's not convincing anymore. You get a shell of a song and you get Prince complaining because people dont want to listen to his records. I listened to Musicology twice. Is he a genius? I guess but it doesn't matter if he wants to stay in the game makin records for majors. Which it certainly looks like he does. And believe me alot of people who put up the video budget overhead are gonna think twice about fueling another Prince record. folks, if u want a definition of a "Hater" here u have it. It just drips with venom and cynicalness. As if this person is some great genuis themselves. The reason Prince namechecked Dougie is because he is a personal friend of his. And really how many people who heard it even knew he was referring too. To call him on something so completly trivial backs up my point. Hater. AGREED! | |
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Well-written review, but disagree massively with its conclusions.
Musicology isn't a great album. 3 out of 5 stars, probably. | |
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Cloudbuster said: GoldenGlove said: Prince has delivered more consistently great albums than any other artist, including Bob Dylan and/or The Beatles...
I stopped reading at that point.  | |
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GoldenGlove said: Adisa said: What better place to diss Prince than in a Prince forum?  I couldn't think of a WORSE place to DISS Prince than on a Prince forum!?!? That's a bit naive. A casual listener can't possibly realize the vast ocean there is between Prince's (early) greatest work and his current output. Hence the dissing. And by the way, Musicology (the song) sucks. Not the worst single ever, but close. I can't remember my baby's voice cuz she ain't talkin' no more  | |
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Mutiny said: GoldenGlove said: I couldn't think of a WORSE place to DISS Prince than on a Prince forum!?!? And by the way, Musicology (the song) sucks. Not the worst single ever, but close. WHAT!! | |
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tricky99 said: Aerogram said: The intro of this review is great, but as always with Prince's "non-masterpieces" (Emancipation, Come, etc.), there's little consensus on what the great songs are. A lot of people are saying "this album is way better than it looks. Take x and y for instance", and it turns out you think z and w are the ones that deserve recognition.
Therefore, without further ado, I declare Musicology is flawed, not at all the best album of 2004, but that it does contain a number of great-to-interesting tracks as well as a few rethreads he should not have bothered with. Musicology, Dear Mr. Man (even with the dubious line about voting) and Reflection are the standouts. Marrying Kind/If I Was the Man in Ur Life are the buried heart of the record, though only a longtime Prince fan would probably agree. The rest ranges from competent/effective to downright lazy (for Prince, of course). [Edited 8/17/05 15:02pm] What exactly are the masterpieces u speak of? Every prince album has its detractors. Even his so called most popular album purple rain was not greatly loved by some of the old-schoolers of that time who saw it as a departure to a more pop/rock/commercial/white sound. It is really a myth that there was ever the perfect brillant prince album. The more music Prince creates, the more there is to compare. So unless Prince gets a brain transplant every "new" song will have some pressident with a past creation. So I don't buy this sort of I don't like such and such song because he already did a balled before. His he supposed re-create the entire framework of music to be enjoyed? I think it is a tremendous insult to describe something as lazy because u personnally don't like it. I find it hard to believe that Prince would not love the work he put out for the world to scutinize. If he's funky than he's not rock enough for some. If he's cyptic than he's not accessible enough for some (TRC). If he's accessible (Musicology) than he's lazy. If he is adventuous (NEWS) than he's boring. It kill's me how everyone on here's sprouts off on here about how this song or that song is a terrible piece of crap as if they themselves are the only arbitors of quality. Prince greatest limitations lies not in his own abilities but in the narrowness of his fans minds. Prince has shown over and over again from 1978 to 2005 that he is capable of more musical flexability then his fans are. That's why he's the genuis and we are just fools typing away on this web site. There will never ever be a album from this point on that will be hailed as a masterpiece by the majority of fans. And I believe that lies more with us then him. Hit the nail on the head! Sometimes I cant believe the shit some of these A. H's put on this board about the man, U are spot on and I'm sure we are not the only one's who are aware of the Org's 'illuminate'..... ha ha ha |
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Cloudbuster said: GoldenGlove said: Prince has delivered more consistently great albums than any other artist, including Bob Dylan and/or The Beatles...
I stopped reading at that point. Why? Did the words get to difficult? |
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SPOOKYGAS said: Cloudbuster said: I stopped reading at that point. Why? Did the words get to difficult? Funny guy...  | |
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was that a "people who have bought this said;" comment? Fuck the funk - it's time to ditch the worn-out Vegas horns fills, pick up the geee-tar and finally ROCK THE MUTHA-FUCKER!! He hinted at this on Chaos, now it's time to step up and fully DELIVER!!
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TheBigBang said: "This is true, too, of Life Of The Party. Another stand-out. It works so much better than any of Prince's party songs since his Symbol album. Whereas tracks like Push It Up or I Rock Therefore I Am might have made me forget Prince ever wrote the inspired
1999, Life Of The Party is a timely reminder that this man schooled the genius that is Outkast." Er...*snicker*...heh...*cough*...hmph... HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! okay!! i lost all respect for this review after reading that...  Space for sale... | |
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tricky99 said: Trickology said: Musicology was the worst single for Prince ever. This topped the Betcha By Golly wow gymnast running to the hospital with his NPG Bubble Jacket/Moonwraps to the Delivery Room cut scene.
This tops the "Push it up" drivel It was Prince desperately trying to get in the clubs. (which I never will understand the fascination of desperately tryin to get somewhere that doesnt want him) There's nothing better than prince lecturing us what's wrong with music. Except maybe the Lecturing of the Truth. With that said it was his choice but someone is out of touch to reality to think by namechecking Doug E Fresh and Harlem that suddenly the Hip Hop audience is gonna embrace you. It was such a low pandering moment. let's not encourage this anymore. And let's not encourage Princes smooth jazz Vegas muzak excursions with smooth jazz alumni who smile excessively. dont even get me started on Life o The Party. Obviously that one was planned for a single but then when Cinammon Girl tanked he decided to call off the next video. He had 3 music videos off it and they all tanked. Im getting Rave Flashbacks. All that music video money could have gone to orphanages. flushes toilet:: The problem with Prince is when he sings something it's not convincing anymore. You get a shell of a song and you get Prince complaining because people dont want to listen to his records. I listened to Musicology twice. Is he a genius? I guess but it doesn't matter if he wants to stay in the game makin records for majors. Which it certainly looks like he does. And believe me alot of people who put up the video budget overhead are gonna think twice about fueling another Prince record. folks, if u want a definition of a "Hater" here u have it. It just drips with venom and cynicalness. As if this person is some great genuis themselves. The reason Prince namechecked Dougie is because he is a personal friend of his. And really how many people who heard it even knew he was referring too. To call him on something so completly trivial backs up my point. Hater. i think folks need to get away from this whole "hater" and "asskisser" mentality....appreciate the fact that people are free to have their own opinions...voice your love and respect those who disagree.... labels dont do any good in the real world and they dont do good here on the org. Space for sale... | |
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tricky99 said: Aerogram said: The intro of this review is great, but as always with Prince's "non-masterpieces" (Emancipation, Come, etc.), there's little consensus on what the great songs are. A lot of people are saying "this album is way better than it looks. Take x and y for instance", and it turns out you think z and w are the ones that deserve recognition.
Therefore, without further ado, I declare Musicology is flawed, not at all the best album of 2004, but that it does contain a number of great-to-interesting tracks as well as a few rethreads he should not have bothered with. Musicology, Dear Mr. Man (even with the dubious line about voting) and Reflection are the standouts. Marrying Kind/If I Was the Man in Ur Life are the buried heart of the record, though only a longtime Prince fan would probably agree. The rest ranges from competent/effective to downright lazy (for Prince, of course). [Edited 8/17/05 15:02pm] It kill's me how everyone on here's sprouts off on here about how this song or that song is a terrible piece of crap as if they themselves are the only arbitors of quality. Triky I love you, and Prince is one of the truly great songwriters/artists of our times. But Jughead sucks and we all know it. | |
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I love it, but there isnt anything of his I dont like,,,I think its better than some others | |
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SPOOKYGAS said: Cloudbuster said: I stopped reading at that point.
Why? Did the words get to difficult? No. | |
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SPOOKYGAS said: Cloudbuster said: I stopped reading at that point. Why? Did the words get to difficult? I don't want to speak for cloudbuster, but I'm guessing that he stopped reading for the same reason I did - because it's a ridiculous statement and the complete opposite of the truth. [Edited 8/20/05 5:31am] | |
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damosuzuki said: SPOOKYGAS said: Why? Did the words get to difficult?
I don't want to speak for cloudbuster, but I'm guessing that he stopped reading for the same reason I did - because it's a ridiculous statement and the complete opposite of the truth. That's the one. | |
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damosuzuki said: SPOOKYGAS said: Why? Did the words get to difficult? I don't want to speak for cloudbuster, but I'm guessing that he stopped reading for the same reason I did - because it's a ridiculous statement and the complete opposite of the truth. [Edited 8/20/05 5:31am] Oh I see, in that case can you define the 'complete opposite of the truth' and then define the opposite of the truth. Another thing, why feel doubt when speaking for raindrop when you assume that only your opinion is the 'complete truth' when someone makes a statement about one artists superiority over anothers? Do you doubt Prince's credentials against the likes of Dylan, how can you stay awake listening to one of his dirges? |
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tricky99 said: Aerogram said: The intro of this review is great, but as always with Prince's "non-masterpieces" (Emancipation, Come, etc.), there's little consensus on what the great songs are. A lot of people are saying "this album is way better than it looks. Take x and y for instance", and it turns out you think z and w are the ones that deserve recognition.
Therefore, without further ado, I declare Musicology is flawed, not at all the best album of 2004, but that it does contain a number of great-to-interesting tracks as well as a few rethreads he should not have bothered with. Musicology, Dear Mr. Man (even with the dubious line about voting) and Reflection are the standouts. Marrying Kind/If I Was the Man in Ur Life are the buried heart of the record, though only a longtime Prince fan would probably agree. The rest ranges from competent/effective to downright lazy (for Prince, of course). [Edited 8/17/05 15:02pm] What exactly are the masterpieces u speak of? Every prince album has its detractors. Even his so called most popular album purple rain was not greatly loved by some of the old-schoolers of that time who saw it as a departure to a more pop/rock/commercial/white sound. It is really a myth that there was ever the perfect brillant prince album. The more music Prince creates, the more there is to compare. So unless Prince gets a brain transplant every "new" song will have some pressident with a past creation. So I don't buy this sort of I don't like such and such song because he already did a balled before. His he supposed re-create the entire framework of music to be enjoyed? I think it is a tremendous insult to describe something as lazy because u personnally don't like it. I find it hard to believe that Prince would not love the work he put out for the world to scutinize. If he's funky than he's not rock enough for some. If he's cyptic than he's not accessible enough for some (TRC). If he's accessible (Musicology) than he's lazy. If he is adventuous (NEWS) than he's boring. It kill's me how everyone on here's sprouts off on here about how this song or that song is a terrible piece of crap as if they themselves are the only arbitors of quality. Prince greatest limitations lies not in his own abilities but in the narrowness of his fans minds. Prince has shown over and over again from 1978 to 2005 that he is capable of more musical flexability then his fans are. That's why he's the genuis and we are just fools typing away on this web site. There will never ever be a album from this point on that will be hailed as a masterpiece by the majority of fans. And I believe that lies more with us then him. Whenever you read someone's opinion, it's just that -- someone's opinion, yours, mine, the critic's. It just so happens that most people are of the opinion that 1999, Purple Rain and SOTT are Prince's best records. You are well within your rights to disagree. Just because more people agree on something doesn't mean they are right. It's simply that there is a general consensus among fans, reviewers and music historians that these three albums are Prince's greatest. That's why at least one of them makes the Best of... list whenever one is published.` As for Prince never releasing a masterpiece again, I bet he will at some point. | |
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SPOOKYGAS said: Another thing, why feel doubt when speaking for raindrop when you assume that only your opinion is the 'complete truth' when someone makes a statement about one artists superiority over anothers? I was going to write a few words on the difference between critical/popular consensus and individual opinion – but then the gentleman above me (aerogram) beautifully articulated everything I had to say. A consensus does exist among critics, musicians and fans that Prince’s finest works are 1999, PR and SOTT. I didn’t consider my personal opinion in the least when posting earlier. Personally, I rate the Fall and Neu over Dylan or Prince these days, but I’d never dream of trying to make a case for them being greater artists. They’re just a personal preference. Also, please note that the writer stated that Prince had released “more consistently great albums than any other artist” – Dylan and the Beatles were just cited as examples. That means more great albums than Stevie Wonder, Miles Davis or Frank Sinatra, just to throw three names out there. Surely only a Prince fan gone too far could believe such a thing. Do you doubt Prince's credentials against the likes of Dylan, how can you stay awake listening to one of his dirges?
I don’t want to debate the merits of Bob Dylan with you, but since both the original writer and yourself used him as an example, he’ll provide a nice basis for showing why the original statement in question is so outlandish. As noted above, Prince has three albums that are widely considered to be classics. Dylan has five: Bringing It All Back Home Highway 61 Revisited Blonde on Blonde John Wesley Harding Blood On The Tracks A case could also be made for Desire, Another Side of Bob Dylan, the Basement Tapes and The Freewheelin’ Bob Dylan, all of which generally receive 5 star reviews in record guides and often appear on polls/lists, but basically the five albums listed above are considered Dylan’s masterpieces. And that’s just Dylan – simply insert the proper albums, and identical arguments could be made for Stevie, Miles or many other artists who have come to be regarded as undisputedly great. [Edited 8/20/05 10:32am] | |
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What's so bad about liking 'Life O'the party'?
It's one of my fav with Illusion,Pimp,... What do U want me 2 do,Call my name,Musicology AND a million days.Sure,A million.. reminds me of some other P songs but that doesn't mean I also have 2 compare it with his MASTERPIECES!! Love4oneanother | |
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i dont agree.... | |
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