i love prince and can relate to many things i see in him...there have also been a few periods where i didnt want anything to do with him...like the 2nd time i met him face to face...and after going to the 1st celebration at paisley park...but...the music is super bad...

Gemin!!!! Listen to the lyrics I COULD NEVER TAKE THE PLACE OF YOUR MAN!!!! Prince looking for a GOOD Time... Yo! Baby..aSeemsd an OPEN RELATIONSHIP.... Seems a Swinger.. Alright by Me!!! Seems a MAD Fuck! Yes, I SWEAR PRINCE is a WILD MAN.... He AIN't No Saint.. The Man is a Party DUDE waiting for the RIGHT CHICK to Bring him take him to Higher Ground! Funk all that Religious Formality Prince..Yo Know you a Filthy Wanton with Desires for a Filthier Wantoness... So, YOUSE CAN WATCH!!! The IMAGE is Pure BULLDOODY!!! You can be SPIRITUAL and KINKY..PRINCE IS!!!!! This WHITE WASHING IS CRAP! He's gonna go Filthy NATASHA STYLE AGAIN... I reckon my Hero neede Old VAGINA back to bring him into his REGAL NAUTHYNESS> I LOVE His ROYAL FUNK>>>

XxAxX said:

If Prince "acted" normal he'd get shit on
from every angle.

He's a very cool dude -- but as a friend... yeah, he needs some work.

MsLegs said:

IT's not a double standard. The difference is, Ozzy is just an idiot. The reason people watch the Osbournes is to see Ozzy and Sharon do stupid things. People can look at it and laugh. Prince is just WEIRD. The name change (I understand it and why he did it but still...) and allthe other shit he's done, it defies any semblance of normalcy. Idiots are normal, Prince is not.

origmnd said:

i feel sorry for him. if i were him and logged onto this site this thread would probably bug me one way or the other. then again as a fan i feel entitled to discuss his life like it were a book or news article. double standard alert.

regarding losing my anonymity, the ability to enjoy walking down the street in public without being attacked, i wouldn't trade with him for the world.

Isn't everybody's personalities fundamentally flawed??? Sheesh, you act like Prince isn't allowed to be imperfect. It's not like you're ever going to know him on a personal basis (cuz I got news for ya...you're not).

CreamyThighs said:

preach on!!

CreamyThighs said:

i just had a funny thought what if everybody in p's life walked out on him because they got sick of his attuide?? well he probably wouldnt give a shit anyway because hes Prince he can be moody towards people who love him.

guitarslinger44 said:

You're right there is a difference. Ozzy is a Caucasian musician. Some how society seems to put Black Entertainers/Musicians under more of a magnifying glass/scrutunity than other nationatlities when Causcasian musicians do more heinous shit than P/others could everdo in his lifesyle and in the legal department. So again as I said previous, there is in fact a double standard. That's why I am glad that P just says fuck'em and does his thing. More power to ya P!
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MsLegs said:

Congratulations, you totally missed my point. Go reread my last post!

guitarslinger44 said:

Personally, I really could care less. It's evident that we have a difference of opinion and so be it.

MsLegs said:

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Dude there is a double standard. Ozzie wants sucked ants into his nose from off the ground and still brags about it today. You don't think that is weird?

Vince Neil drove drunk and killed someone but, he is still recording music and performing. Do you think if Prince or god forgive Bobby Brown did that they would still be around in the industry?

Prince is not anymore weird than a lot of the other artist. He is good at keeping his shit on the downlow, out of the tabloids and your not gonna see him on a reality show making a fool out of himself.

Makes him a little smarter than Ozzy and not anymore weird.

laurarichardson said:

What other black artists have been put under the microscope to the degree that Prince and Michael Jackson have? You think it doesnt' happen to white artists? What about eminem, Madonna, U2, Sting, etc.? When you get to a certain level as an artist you're put under more scrutiny because you're more visible. I think you're seeing a racial argument where it doesnt' exist.

The difference between Prince and Ozzy is that there is no need for any further explanation of Ozzy's antics other than, "He a drunk, he's an addict, he's an idiot." The only person who snorts ants is someone who's either on something or someone who's just plain an idiot.

The thing with Prince's antics is that he never really explains them until after the fact. It's like when Sinead O'Connor tore up the picture of the pope. SHe never explained to anyone WHY she did it until AFTER the fact. So of course people are going ot try to get to the center of it and find out what the cause was.

laurarichardson said:

Tell'em Laura. This individaul can try to skirt around the real issue if he wants to be we know the truth.

MsLegs said:

im gonna side with TheCat on this one and disagree with my mslegs once again..this must be a record or something for us baby....or is it that sexual tension you keep mentioning?

at anyrate...if prince were just a regular joe he would get punked down for being the way he is.....however, you almost gotta excuse it because like TheCat said, most creative geniuses are eccentric....

and compared to howard hughes, albert einstein and pocasso...prince is kinda normal..

XxAxX said:

prince chose this path though..he has to take ownership for this..after wed. nights largo show eric clapton and john mayer walked out by themselves and walked down the street...a long long street..we all said hi, they waived and went on....

sade, tracy chapman,robert deniro and heck even JFK JR all walk around their towns and live normal lives....heck, jfk jr took the subway and bike everywhere...some celebrities create these huge persona's, demand fifty million security guards and then wanna know why they get attention?

it was soo interesting to see sheryl crow, seal and all these famous folks just chilling and walking up and down LA without zero paparazzi or entourage.

it can be done. and prince could still do it..look at madge...she lives normally in london now.

sosgemini said:

Yes he did.

mackopolis said:

I wouldn't mind a look though

sosgemini said:

Frankly, Sos I could give a damn what you think so save you bitchy commentaries for your boyfriend b/c Legs is not going to tolerate your bullshit. So you better behave yourself or else
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MsLegs said:

bitchy? bullshit? seriously legs...my post was kinda toung in cheek but im getting the impression yours isnt.....whats wrong?
[Edited 8/13/05 5:49am]

sosgemini said:

Just face it Sos, you're craving a touch of my .
[Edited 8/13/05 7:47am]

guitarslinger44 said:

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"You think it doesnt' happen to white artists? "

All artist are under the microscope but trust me when it comes to off the chain behavior white folks are given a pass by the media and the industry. Look at Robert Downey Jr. He has spent less time in jail then Bobby Brown and he is just as much a drug addict yet he is still acting and Bobby can't get a record deal.

"The only person who snorts ants is someone who's either on something or someone who's just plain an idiot. "

He not supposed to be on anything now but, he still things this stunt was funny. He is an idiot and he is weird and it does not stop him from having a carreer when it should have been over a long time ago.

"The thing with Prince's antics is that he never really explains them until after the fact"

What normal person has to explain everything they do to the public. I think it would be weird if he called a press conference everytime he had a personal issue that caused him to go off the deep him. It is better to handle your issues and explain it later if you feel like it.

I am not saying he does not do some strange shit. I just don't think it is any stranger than a lot of white rockers. Good lord Pete Townsend was buying kiddie porn a few years ago and it barely made a blip in the news.

MsLegs said:

Ha! You wanna talk about skirting the issue? YOu didn't even respond to my post other than with some prissy "Oh, I dont' really give a damn!" kind of answer. REspond to the post, THEN you can talk about skirting the issue.

laurarichardson said:

I will give you the Pete Townsend argument. I dont' know what ever became of that....but then again, look at R.Kelly. They caught him with a damn sex tape and he STILL hasn't gone to trial! He's STILL releasing records, he's STILL got videos all over MTV!

I'm not saying a normal person has to explain themselves, but when you're in the public eye, you have to figure that not everyone is gonna get what you're doing unless you explain it well. In the case of Prince, had he gotten a team of lawyers together and gone to court, rather than changing his name, and painting slave on his face, no one would have batted an eyelash. But all that stuff he did had no context to many people. No one had any idea WHY he changed his name and painted slave on his face (for the record i DO understand it, that doesnt' make it any less weird but I do understand)

Far as Bobby Brown is concerned, well, I doubt he's even trying to get a deal, and if he is, few record companies are gonna touch a guy who's still on the pipe no matter who he is. Bobby's behavior in in public is a red flag to record companies and there are several white artists I can name who have gone thru the same thing because based on past behavior, no record company in existence is willing to risk money on them. Ozzy's supposedly clean but he had to pretty much sell his soul to still have a career, same as Vince Neil.

I'm not saying racism doesnt' exist in the entertainment industry, but I think you're finding racism where it doesn't exist.

mackopolis said:

....walking your talk is about integrity....hold B
back B4 throw N my

we all make choices!! "2 whom much is given much is required!" anyONE can change~at any point N time....my heart holds hope 4 healing & balance 4 ALL...

this one has an unending LOVE 4 the guy (the fact WE R Here is testimony 2 the many ways he touches hearts & lives) ~ Heaven just never told B that might not like Lovin'him.... God has such a sense of humor sometimes

guitarslinger44 said:

The fact remains that you are really skirting the issue and you can't handle the truth I am bringing and so be it. No you can keep rolling your eyes until they roll out your head for all I care.

guitarslinger44 said:

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Don't use Rob as an example any chance he had at being a crossover artist is gone and this CD he has out now is not doing that good. He is getting a past on this situation with the tape because the girl will not cooporate with the authorities but, trust me if the girl had been white he would have been incarcerated while he waited for the trail.

Prince did not explain himself right away but, he did a lot of interviews in 1994 and he made his feelings and reason known. I just don't think anybody was really interested at the time. Only when record sales started to fall did anyone say "Hey his methods are weird but, he may have a point" (LOL).

Yes, Bobby is trying to get a deal. On his show he has met with producers and he did something with Stephen and Damian Marley. So Bob is trying to get his foot back in the door. I will bet you money that it will not happen but look at Vince Neil and Motley Crue. A new CD and hugh tour.

I am sorry you can't see what I see but, I guess we have to agree to disagree.

Hotlegs said:

Legs, if you actually want to have a debate then respond to my post with more than your standard, lazy answers. You haven't because I'm guessing you can't. Laura Richardson and I are having a debate, if you wanna do the same, let's do it. But don't sit there and make a bunch of bitchy comments without backing it up. back atcha!

laurarichardson said:

Rob most definitely got a pass, and you know what? He's been accused of the SAME CRIME in SEVERAL locations! And he's STILL got videos on teh major music networks, which means that his ability to be a crossover artists is not finished!

I agree that Prince had some great points. I just wish he would have done more interviews or made them in a more constructive way like maybe wearing a shirt that says something like "Record Company=slave master" or something like that. At least that way people would have had a better understanding.

The thing with Bobby is that his continued erratic behavior is why he won't get a deal. He's repeated the same cycle of behavior for YEARS! Vince Neil killed that guy when Crue was at the height of their popularity, and he's never done it again since. He also had to do a lot of community service and I think even pay some sort of compensation to the guy's family. He didnt' get a pass, he didnt' get the most harsh sentence he could have, but he didnt' get a pass.

I spose int he end we WILL have to just agree to disagree, but thanks for a fun debate Laura.