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Reply #60 posted 08/03/05 2:33am

ElectricBlue

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Its a great album! Prince decided to make a Pop Album. The great thing about Prince is he will always give you something in a year or so. The guy has TONS of albums & unreleased stuff.

Why would anyone by now care about 1 album, when you know he tries different things. It is his journey NOT ours!

enjoy the ride. If you didn't like this stop, there will be a new one in a year or so. If you cant wait you have 25+ albums to chose from. Not counting tv apearances,live award shows apearances & unreleased material.

Prince is the last person you should be worrying or wanting/complaining about something to listen to.

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Reply #61 posted 08/03/05 2:49am

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I do not understand?!?!?!?!

Musicology,
I, C, P & C,
A Million Days,
Call My Name,
What Do You Want Me 2 Do,
On The Couch,
Dear Mr. Man

These are great songs!!!!!
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Reply #62 posted 08/03/05 6:19am

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tookielv said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:



Musicology is a joke compared to either album.

Lovesexy is my favorite Prince album and that probably has so much to do with the fact that it came out when I was coming out of the closet. That said, Lovesexy is truly inspired, as is The Rainbow Children. Dislike the narration voice or the lyrics on TRC, the musicianship is tight. There isn't anything on Musicology that can even begin to touch the musicianship on TRC. Listen to Everywhere and tell me anything on Musicology sounds as inspired. Not even close.


i don't have to tell u anything about what inspiration or me or nor it just that musicology to me puts me in the mood that lovesexy and the rainbow children hasn't. therefore u like ur lovesexy and i like my musicology.



Putting all personal reactions aside, the musicianship on Lovesexy and TRC is of a far higher caliber than that on Musicology. As I've said, Musicology is a good album, but it doesn't come anywhere near the incredible songwriting on Lovesexy, or the tight playing on The Rainbow Children
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Reply #63 posted 08/03/05 7:24am

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MUSICOLOGY ROCKS!! cool
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Reply #64 posted 08/03/05 7:57am

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but the best thing to come ouf of the Musicology album was the tour. It was just awesome and I can take a less than perfect album from P in exchange for that any day!

I have been listening to P since early 80's and that was my first opportunity to see him live. Three shows, first one 8th row, last two, both front row...and I will never forget that experience!
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Reply #65 posted 08/03/05 7:57am

Hotlegs

txladykat said:

but the best thing to come ouf of the Musicology album was the tour. It was just awesome and I can take a less than perfect album from P in exchange for that any day!

I have been listening to P since early 80's and that was my first opportunity to see him live. Three shows, first one 8th row, last two, both front row...and I will never forget that experience!

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Reply #66 posted 08/03/05 7:59am

Hotlegs

My only favorite song on the whole was Dr Mr. Man.
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Reply #67 posted 08/03/05 7:59am

JediMaster

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txladykat said:

but the best thing to come ouf of the Musicology album was the tour. It was just awesome and I can take a less than perfect album from P in exchange for that any day!

I have been listening to P since early 80's and that was my first opportunity to see him live. Three shows, first one 8th row, last two, both front row...and I will never forget that experience!


Totally agree. This was his best big arena tour since Lovesexy
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Reply #68 posted 08/03/05 8:19am

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Hotlegs said:

My only favorite song on the whole was Dr Mr. Man.


I really like the bluesy of that one too...but I also liked LOTP, ICPC and Musicology. On the couch was ok, the rest, i could do without.
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Reply #69 posted 08/03/05 10:11am

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Musicology, the album that proves he's lost it? Nah. More like the album that proves he isn't trying.

Seriously, stuff like Cinnamon Girl and Musicology, with their lazy and uninspired hooks, are the kind of thing he can record on a whim any old day of the week.

I think it's just an album he quickly threw together with minimal creativity, production and risk.

His real focus in 2004 seemed to be the greatest hits tour. He didn't even care enough about Musicology to play most of its songs on the tour.
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Reply #70 posted 08/03/05 10:36am

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peppeken said:

Musicology ? the album that proves he's lost it...how can he sleep at night knowing it is his worst album and yet has performed so well.....sad sad sad


i heard that prince does not sleep it probably does not bother him he is just tryin 2 b christian
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Reply #71 posted 08/03/05 10:46am

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Why can't we just accept the album for what it is instead of dogging on it? It's not his greatest nor his worst. It's better than half the crap that's out there, that's for sure. There some good tracks and a few skippers. It's his... what 25th album? I think it's pretty good for a guy who's been putting out music for over 2 decades.

Just because he's no longer at his creative peak, doen't mean his music is suddenly crap. Nor does it mean he hasn't hit other peaks. Nor does it mean that we aren't going to get any good music. I can name at least a dozen songs (and so can many on here) that he has done/put out in the last 5 years that are absolute gems...nay classics.

As a fan for many years, by this time, you either follow him or not. I mean if you haven't figured out that we're not going to get another Purple Rain, then I don't know what to tell you.

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Reply #72 posted 08/03/05 11:03am

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I get amazed when I hear the comparisons between TRC and Musicology. Those are 2 completely different albums. One was tryin to get a broader audience, the other wasn't. One was a pop album, the other wasn't. When I brought Musicology, I knew not to compare the 2 because I knew they were light years apart and that includes all the albums from the past. That I believe is why I like Musicology, plus TRC and N.E.W.S were dark albums to me so it was nice to get something light and not so serious, aside from Dear Mr Man. That's my twocents.
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Reply #73 posted 08/03/05 11:05am

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txladykat said:

but the best thing to come ouf of the Musicology album was the tour. It was just awesome and I can take a less than perfect album from P in exchange for that any day!


The only reason I have forgiveness in my heart for such a lazy release at the same time he's being inducted into the hall of fame. This album is not hall of fame material.
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Reply #74 posted 08/03/05 3:56pm

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I really like Musicology.

I mean its mainstream but its not sugar pop at all,
The tracks are very instrumentally great and the lyrics arent bad at all, i mean its not the ambigous lyrics he used to write which were fun trying to understand, but come on its Music, judge it for how it sounds, for not what PRince can do and used to do...



nod Unfortunately, we can't seem to do that around here.
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Reply #75 posted 08/03/05 4:04pm

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I prefer Musicology to Diamonds and Pearls. Even though the best songs on D&P are better than the best on Musicology, there are more songs on D&P that I don't like than on Musicology.
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Reply #76 posted 08/03/05 7:54pm

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You guys remind me of customers I had to make sandwiches for, doing it right in front of them, it was "put this on it" "put that on it" "oh, too much of that" shutup and let me do my job dammit. Cannot please most people, lucky if you can please enough to make it.
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Reply #77 posted 08/03/05 8:24pm

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gouing for a stupidity check on myself, here. what is purple kool-aid ? ain't that grape flavored ? stoned

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Reply #78 posted 08/03/05 9:51pm

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mozfonky said:

You guys remind me of customers I had to make sandwiches for, doing it right in front of them, it was "put this on it" "put that on it" "oh, too much of that" shutup and let me do my job dammit. Cannot please most people, lucky if you can please enough to make it.

Ain't that the truth? And believe you me, some of these same people wanting and craving a new album are going to be arguing and complaining about it after it drops. You watch.
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Reply #79 posted 08/04/05 1:10am

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superspaceboy said:

Why can't we just accept the album for what it is instead of dogging on it? It's not his greatest nor his worst. It's better than half the crap that's out there, that's for sure. There some good tracks and a few skippers. It's his... what 25th album? I think it's pretty good for a guy who's been putting out music for over 2 decades.

Just because he's no longer at his creative peak, doen't mean his music is suddenly crap. Nor does it mean he hasn't hit other peaks. Nor does it mean that we aren't going to get any good music. I can name at least a dozen songs (and so can many on here) that he has done/put out in the last 5 years that are absolute gems...nay classics.

As a fan for many years, by this time, you either follow him or not. I mean if you haven't figured out that we're not going to get another Purple Rain, then I don't know what to tell you.



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Jesus Christ, someone who speaks sense. I've been meaning to add my comments but

A - I know this thread is going to appear in 'My Org' for the next 6 weeks
B - nothing I say or do is going to change anyone else's perception

However, I wholeheartedly agree with everything you say. As I mentioned on another thread recently, I think some people's expectations of what Prince releases (or, rather, what they think Prince should release) are ridiculous. Let the man do what he wants. If people like it, great. If they don't, move on. Or release something yourself which you consider 'worthy' - or is that something they expect of Prince, which takes them back to square one.

If I sound like 'fam', so be it. I'm quite happy not to get so worked up over things. I can quite happily listen to any of his albums and appreciate them for what they are. Some of them are my favourites, some of them aren't. All of them I can place in the correct context or see them for what they are. And if I don't like any particular song - I don't listen to it. Simple as. I certainly don't expect every single Prince release to be the greatest artistic statement ever. Musicology is just a fun, 'mainstream' Prince album. On that level, I think it works very well. And as purplecam says, just watch the whining and bitching start when Prince releases a new album. rolleyes There's always someone who's never satisfied.

Enjoy it while it lasts, folks.
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Reply #80 posted 08/04/05 3:47am

Anji

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Seriously, stuff like Cinnamon Girl and Musicology, with their lazy and uninspired hooks, are the kind of thing he can record on a whim any old day of the week.


CONtrary 2 POPular blief, Prince did try.

Musicology, the song, 4 xample, was reworked a number of times b4 he felt it hit the spot.
Ever go 2 a nightclub around the time he was masterminding it?

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Reply #81 posted 08/04/05 4:02am

Anji

Furthermore, it's worthwhile mentioning that Prince reacts 2 things, ncluding critics n fans.
He doesn't live n an ivory tower, he keeps a keen eye on developments.

Following the furor over the lyrics n feel of The Rainbow Children, who took a step back, 'silently' retreating n reflecting?

And what did he do next? Create 2 instrumental ONLY albums?
Fans were, n fact, 'dying' 2 hear Prince's 'voice' again.

There r many reasons y Musicology has a lighthearted, pop theme 2 it.

love
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Reply #82 posted 08/04/05 4:06am

Anji

And 1 final thing, at the time of Musicology's release, no 1, and eye mean, NO 1, xpected the album 2 b CONcise.
Yet, it was...

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Reply #83 posted 08/04/05 5:00am

Oliver

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Musicology ? the album that proves he's lost it...how can he sleep at night knowing it is his worst album and yet has performed so well.....sad sad sad


I disagree...after years, Musicology was a fresh breath. I have 2 admit I enjoyed TRC experience and all, even Rave Un2, but Musicology has some gems.

U can't deny A Million Days, What Do U Want Me 2 Do (sorry/title), Musicology itself...alright, I'm also looking 4 songs now...F-it.
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Reply #84 posted 08/04/05 5:43am

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I don't mind Musicology but I fail to see how anyone could say it was a "breath of fresh air" after his last few albums... It's just re-hashed version of what he's been doing for a good ten years.

Musicology is just the same as Prettyman.

Call My Name is a poor mans U Make My Sunshine

On The Couch is very similar to a lot of the tracks on One Nite Alone

Reflection is a piss-poor version of Circle Of Amour.

Cinnamon Girl is the same tired, soft-rock shit he's been spewing up since Damned If I Do and So Far, So Pleased.

And Life O The Party joins Freaksonthisside and Jughead in the Prince Hall Of Shame.

Tell me what on Musicology is half as good as Strange But True, I Love U But I Don't Trust U Anymore, The Greatest Romance and Wherever U Go, Whatever U Do?
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Reply #85 posted 08/04/05 6:20am

thedog

I like Prince, but musicology is crap. Not one track is worth what I leave floating around in the toilet, after sitting on it and straining.
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Reply #86 posted 08/04/05 7:01am

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thedog said:

I like Prince, but musicology is crap. Not one track is worth what I leave floating around in the toilet, after sitting on it and straining.


ouch, now thats harsh confused
just goes to show the wide diversity in P's fams though.....not everyone likes the same things, and props to Prince for being able to put out music that satisfies everyone at one point or another.
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Reply #87 posted 08/04/05 8:16am

Novabreaker

peppeken said:

Musicology ? the album that proves he's lost it...how can he sleep at night knowing it is his worst album and yet has performed so well.....sad sad sad


What a great thread. And very fascinating too. confused
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Reply #88 posted 08/04/05 12:51pm

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mrmarcus said:

I prefer Musicology to Diamonds and Pearls. Even though the best songs on D&P are better than the best on Musicology, there are more songs on D&P that I don't like than on Musicology.


To me, Musicology is what D&P would have been, had it not had all of Tony M's horrible raps on it. A fun, light album, with some good tunes. Not a masterpiece, but still better than a whole lot of the crap out there.
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Reply #89 posted 08/04/05 1:05pm

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To me the album is a classic but that was only after I heard it on a $5,000 surround stereo system. I heard things on the album that were really amazing and sadly it was overproduced or underproduced or poorly produced so the sound really doesn't come through well on normal stereos. And then of course, live the songs were much better. Esp....Life of the Party!!
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