laurarichardson said:

y'know it IS a bit hypcritical, but i do agree with u both. i mean laura ur right. NOONE should be using racial slurs, but @ the same time prince knew the word was negative. theres no way, especially as a blk man, that he could NOT have known. thats why i think its hypocritical for him to be tellin someone else not to use the word. prince hisself knew the word and what came with it, hell he was a 30some odd yr old man when he started using it, he KNEW. but prince stopped using it when HE saw fit. not because he came up on some knowledge or whatever. so yea thats hypocritical, although i don't agree with use of that word ATALL, who is he to be telling someone else not to use it? if he doesn't want to anymore, fine, more power to him. but don't go tellin someone else not to use it, just because prince in his own mind finally relized that its not ok. or whatever realization he came to.

same with the whole sex issue.

It is P-DIDDY, NOT PUFFY, GODDAMNNITTTT!!! lol.

laurarichardson said:

hell he was a 30some odd yr old man when he started using it,

Moonwalkbjrain said:

He used the word LONG before he was thirty-something! I believe the first recorded incident of it was in 1983 on "Cloreen Baconskin", so it's been a part of his vocabulary for probably all of his life.

"brainwashed to dislike ourselves"???
You can only be "brainwashed" if You have a weak mind to begin with,so really,that argument don't hold much water

wallysafford said:

Patently untrue.

Internalized oppression affects weak and strong alike.

FunkMistress said:

"Self-hate" and "internalized racism" are other ways of saying internalized oppression

Moonwalkbjrain said:

He used the word LONG before he was thirty-something! I believe the first recorded incident of it was in 1983 on "Cloreen Baconskin", so it's been a part of his vocabulary for probably all of his life.

laurarichardson said:

Using foul language doesn't mean someone isn't mature.

Moonwalkbjrain said:

This argument makes no sense. Just because someone used to do something wrong means that they can no longer inform others that it's wrong?
If that were the case, would parents be able to give their children any guidance at all? Would recovering drug addicts be able to counsel others regarding the dangers of substance abuse? Regardless of what a person used to do, the fact of the matter is that it's in the past. A person is not a hypocrite if they're no longer participating in that activity. The truth is still the truth, and it doesn't make Prince a hypocrite to make others aware of it. In fact, who better to inform others than someone who used to do it and knows the damage that it causes?

The 'N' word is just a word if u take it down to its base denominator, it only becomes offensive when the person who uses it attaches a derogitory vibe to deliver it. I believe that when P uses it he is the postman for various senders (depending on the song) and you as the recipient decide how that impacts on you.

As far as I'm concerned I have never heard P use the word 'N' in an offensive manner. Like most of his lyrics it is up to you to decide for yourself what he is really talking about or indeed what might be his opinion.

For what its worth I think most of the time he is trying to portray the ignorance of those who use the word in a derogitory way by mirroring their actions.

SPOOKYGAS said:

riiight. plain and simple, he used the n bomb cuz it was a trend, as far as "portrayin ignorance, by mirroring actions..." no offense but thats the dumbest shit i ever did hear. thats like justifying why a murderer murders by saying that they wanted to portray the ignorance blah blah blah.

as far as i'm concerned ANY way u use it is negative. whether it be a "what up my nigga!" or a "get outta my face u dirty nigger" type thang

Moonwalkbjrain said:

Why would you say that murdering is ignorant, what a strange poiiint of view.

SPOOKYGAS said:

u dont think that taking lives is ignorant?? i mean seriously

"brainwashed to dislike ourselves"???
You can only be "brainwashed" if You have a weak mind to begin with,so really,that argument don't hold much water being that Prince always claims to be in complete control of his mind and thoughts.
Prince started using the "N" word predominantley in the mid 90's,when it was considered "slang" and all of the hip hoppers were using it.
I don't think he was "brainwashed" into using the "N" word at all.
I think he was using it to fit in with the younger,rap crowd.
Most of the songs he used that ugly word in were "raps".

Dont 4get about the album "Gold Nigga". Did an whole ablum on bein' a Black man. I laughed when I heard the songs on that album.

Tiffypoo2004 said:

Ignorant 'lacking knowledge or awareness in general' concise English dictionary.

Murder 'Unlawful killing of a person, performed with malice or forethought' concise Englisg dictionary.

Like I said what a strange conclusion to draw, I can just hear a Prosecutor in his closing statement to the jury say 'this was indeed an act of ignorant murder' What the hell does that mean, what are you on?

SPOOKYGAS said:

yea well ignorant also means STUPID. the act of murder is stupid. isn't that what lackin knowledge means? if u lack knowledge u are stupid. so the question my dear is what are YOU on? so like i was saying ur little theory about trying to portray the ignorance yadda yadda just don't cut it

yrh said:

What a hypocrite. Considering there was a time when every other word out of his mouth was the N word.

Can you name me another ethnic group that goes around using racist terms i.e nigger to describe themselves on a routine basis and then tries to justify it by saying they have magically transformed the word into something empowering.

meow85 said:

Somebody refresh my shit - when was that?

laurarichardson said:

Not an ethnic group, but gay folks are doing the same damn thing when they use "faggot" and the like to describe themselves.

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