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Reply #60 posted 07/27/05 11:01am

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TheCrucialExperience said:

GoldenGlove said:



Kiss is NOT funkmusic... it is POP.


Speak on it, gawddammit! wink
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p.s. ahem... http://www.prince.org/msg/7/154779 waaay off topic i know... lol
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Reply #61 posted 07/27/05 11:03am

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roanmairin said:

GoldenGlove said:



Kiss is NOT funkmusic... it is POP.



I remember reading an entire article in a guitar magazine fifteen years ago about funk techniques and "Kiss" was the feature song. The writer specialized in funk guitar and was using Kiss as an example of Princes' technique.

Kiss, like When Doves Cry, were both popular but they do not fit any pop formula before or after. And if you know anything about the musical structure of a funk song Kiss is a text book example. Listen to nearly any live version when it isn't stripped down as much as the album version.


Ok, but just because it had 1 element of funk doesn't make the ENTIRE SONG funky. And the fact that you had to go with the live version of *Kiss* further proves our point that it isnt funky until he does it LIVE.
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Reply #62 posted 07/27/05 11:03am

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GoldenGlove said:

TheCrucialExperience said:



Speak on it, gawddammit! wink
wink

p.s. ahem... http://www.prince.org/msg/7/154779 waaay off topic i know... lol


wink I feels ya! You go and rock hard in a funky place, dammit!
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Reply #63 posted 07/27/05 11:04am

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TheCrucialExperience said:

roanmairin said:




I remember reading an entire article in a guitar magazine fifteen years ago about funk techniques and "Kiss" was the feature song. The writer specialized in funk guitar and was using Kiss as an example of Princes' technique.

Kiss, like When Doves Cry, were both popular but they do not fit any pop formula before or after. And if you know anything about the musical structure of a funk song Kiss is a text book example. Listen to nearly any live version when it isn't stripped down as much as the album version.


Ok, but just because it had 1 element of funk doesn't make the ENTIRE SONG funky. And the fact that you had to go with the live version of *Kiss* further proves our point that it isnt funky until he does it LIVE.
Preach on brother!! cool
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Reply #64 posted 07/27/05 11:07am

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GoldenGlove said:

TheCrucialExperience said:



Ok, but just because it had 1 element of funk doesn't make the ENTIRE SONG funky. And the fact that you had to go with the live version of *Kiss* further proves our point that it isnt funky until he does it LIVE.
Preach on brother!! cool


wink
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Reply #65 posted 07/27/05 11:09am

Rhondab

yeah....kiss is groovy....but not on my funky list



i like cloreen bacon skin, 2 niggs, pretty man, hide the bone, superfunky, .....anotherhole
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Reply #66 posted 07/27/05 11:23am

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simtheury said:

Days Of Wild ! (any version) wildsign


Days of Wild ...Yep
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Reply #67 posted 07/27/05 11:24am

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jonylawson said:

DAYS OF WILD!


That middle eastern flava! cool
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Reply #68 posted 07/27/05 11:28am

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Funk (1) (noun) Funk [fungk]

1. musical style
A type of popular music that derives from jazz, blues and soul and is characterised by a heavy rhythmic bass and backbeat.

2. earthy musical quality
A rhythmic earthy quality in music

Thats what encarta had to say anyway.

i just say: come on from the NPS album
I love your face, your smile, your eyes,
Damn- I'm good at telling lies!
What inspired this amorous rhyme?
Two parts vodka, one part lime.
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Reply #69 posted 07/27/05 5:50pm

thedog

TheCrucialExperience said:

thedog said:



You are the one who doesn't know what funk is. How in the hell can you think Head of all songs is not funk? That's nothing but pure funk! I agree that space and strange relationship are not funk, but the others you named are.
Someone listed the ultra UNFUNKY let's pretend we're married. That just crazy.


*Head* may have some funk elements to it, but *Head* is synth-driven, if you knew funk then you'd know funk isn't synth-driven. Most novices like you make that mistake though, that's why I asked what term of 'funk' are you speaking on.


Funk can be syth driven or horn driven or guitar driven. It doesn't matter. Funk is the beat
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Reply #70 posted 07/27/05 6:20pm

JellyBean

1. America

2. Head

3. DMSR

4. Controversy

5. Let's Work
“When I give food to the poor, they call me a saint. When I ask why the poor have no food, they call me a Communist.” Brazilian bishop Dom Hélder Câmara
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Reply #71 posted 07/27/05 7:06pm

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thedog said:

TheCrucialExperience said:



*Head* may have some funk elements to it, but *Head* is synth-driven, if you knew funk then you'd know funk isn't synth-driven. Most novices like you make that mistake though, that's why I asked what term of 'funk' are you speaking on.


Funk can be syth driven or horn driven or guitar driven. It doesn't matter. Funk is the beat

I have no idea who told you "funk" was a "beat"...but whoever it was they viciously lied to you, dude eek
[Edited 7/27/05 19:07pm]
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Reply #72 posted 07/27/05 8:07pm

jbell

DMSR
Sexy Dancer
Lady Cab Driver
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Reply #73 posted 07/28/05 1:50am

Novabreaker

giotto said:

Novabreaker said:


The 10+ minute unreleased instrumental from the Purple Rain sessions that circulates under the names "Lust U Always" and "Divinity".


By the way, "the Purple Rain sessions" were well over by the time Prince recorded this instrumental.

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Shut up and get a life. wink biggrin
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Reply #74 posted 07/28/05 6:46am

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I have to add:
Acknowledge Me
My Computer
Emale
Automatic
Billy Jack B
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Reply #75 posted 07/28/05 7:19am

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Astasheiks said:

I have to add:
Acknowledge Me
My Computer
Emale
Automatic
Billy Jack B


i said FUNKY wink
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Reply #76 posted 07/28/05 9:57am

Welcome2daRevo
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**Nasty Girl**
CALL ME A DREAMER 2!
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Reply #77 posted 07/28/05 1:36pm

Subliminal

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STANDOUT FUNKY PRINCE SONG

UPTOWN

SAW HIM PERFORM UPTOWN DURING CELEBRATION CONCERT AND WAS BLOWN AWAY!

She's just a crazy, crazy, crazy
Little mixed up dame
She's just a victim of society
And all it's games
Now where I come from
We don't let society
Tell us how it's supposed to be
Our clothes, our hair, we don't care
It's all about being there

Everybody's going
Uptown
That's where I wanna be
Uptown
Set your mind free
Uptown
Got my body hot
Get down
I don't wanna stop, no


BATDANCE (guitar solo) - honourable mention wildsign
Below your threshold of conscious perception.... is where you will find me.
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Reply #78 posted 07/28/05 4:04pm

funkyblues

SEXY MOTHERFUCKER, KISS AND Housequake
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Reply #79 posted 07/28/05 4:15pm

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Subliminal said:

STANDOUT FUNKY PRINCE SONG

UPTOWN

SAW HIM PERFORM UPTOWN DURING CELEBRATION CONCERT AND WAS BLOWN AWAY!

She's just a crazy, crazy, crazy
Little mixed up dame
She's just a victim of society
And all it's games
Now where I come from
We don't let society
Tell us how it's supposed to be
Our clothes, our hair, we don't care
It's all about being there

Everybody's going
Uptown
That's where I wanna be
Uptown
Set your mind free
Uptown
Got my body hot
Get down
I don't wanna stop, no


BATDANCE (guitar solo) - honourable mention wildsign


I would have definitely chosen "Uptown" otherwise, but, "Let's Work" has a funkier bass line. Good Choice though! One Of My favorites!
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Reply #80 posted 07/29/05 8:09am

thedog

TheCrucialExperience said:

thedog said:



Funk can be syth driven or horn driven or guitar driven. It doesn't matter. Funk is the beat

I have no idea who told you "funk" was a "beat"...but whoever it was they viciously lied to you, dude eek
[Edited 7/27/05 19:07pm]



James Brown said so and he invented funk with papa's got a brand new bag and out of sight. He said he came up with funk with changing the beat accent from the second and fourth to the first and third, but I guess you know more then him. You're just some dude who thinks he knows far more then he really does. Nobody else on this whole forum will agree with you that Head is not funk. Parliament's (George Clinton) flash light is synth driven are you gonna say that's not funk? Funkadelic's (George Clinton)(not just) Nee deep is synth driven. That's not funk? George Clinton's atomic dog is Synth driven. I guess that's not funk. Zapp's (Roger troutman) more bounce to the ounce is all synths. I guess that's not funk.
Just stop, Please just stop.

Here read this. Scroll down to the title make it funky. I'm done with you
http://www.soul-patrol.co...career.htm
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Reply #81 posted 07/29/05 8:28am

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thedog said:

TheCrucialExperience said:


I have no idea who told you "funk" was a "beat"...but whoever it was they viciously lied to you, dude eek
[Edited 7/27/05 19:07pm]



James Brown said so and he invented funk with papa's got a brand new bag and out of sight. He said he came up with funk with changing the beat accent from the second and fourth to the first and third, but I guess you know more then him. You're just some dude who thinks he knows far more then he really does. Nobody else on this whole forum will agree with you that Head is not funk. Parliament's (George Clinton) flash light is synth driven are you gonna say that's not funk? Funkadelic's (George Clinton)(not just) Nee deep is synth driven. That's not funk? George Clinton's atomic dog is Synth driven. I guess that's not funk. Zapp's (Roger troutman) more bounce to the ounce is all synths. I guess that's not funk.
Just stop, Please just stop.

Here read this. Scroll down to the title make it funky. I'm done with you
http://www.soul-patrol.co...career.htm


I like how you tried to use a FAN SITE as gospel of the funk...bad move. The funny thing is, right underneath this so-called "expert" saying that funk is a beat, he says The JB HORN SECTION had a lot to do with the sound as well. Hmm? HORNS AREN'T DRUMS. eek .

As far as synth-driven songs you mentioned, WRONG. Those songs aren't synth driven as much as they are bass drum and bassline driven. The only argument I can go with u on is Flashlight as being mainly a synth-driven funk song. And to think More Bouunce was synth-driven is just retarded altogether. eek . No, scaratch that - INSANE LOL!

But you go 'right ahead and keep thinkin' FUNK IS A BEAT, big pimp. wink eek lol
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Reply #82 posted 07/29/05 8:38am

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thedog said:

TheCrucialExperience said:


I have no idea who told you "funk" was a "beat"...but whoever it was they viciously lied to you, dude eek
[Edited 7/27/05 19:07pm]



James Brown said so and he invented funk with papa's got a brand new bag and out of sight. He said he came up with funk with changing the beat accent from the second and fourth to the first and third, but I guess you know more then him. You're just some dude who thinks he knows far more then he really does. Nobody else on this whole forum will agree with you that Head is not funk. Parliament's (George Clinton) flash light is synth driven are you gonna say that's not funk? Funkadelic's (George Clinton)(not just) Nee deep is synth driven. That's not funk? George Clinton's atomic dog is Synth driven. I guess that's not funk. Zapp's (Roger troutman) more bounce to the ounce is all synths. I guess that's not funk.
Just stop, Please just stop.

Here read this. Scroll down to the title make it funky. I'm done with you
http://www.soul-patrol.co...career.htm


You tell him, Im with U. Also, Funk has been described as a sexual sweat and thats what I get when I dance to KISS, so CrucialExperience U can go KISS my sweaty Butt and stay the Funk out of ma music. wink
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Reply #83 posted 07/29/05 8:55am

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SPOOKYGAS said:

thedog said:




James Brown said so and he invented funk with papa's got a brand new bag and out of sight. He said he came up with funk with changing the beat accent from the second and fourth to the first and third, but I guess you know more then him. You're just some dude who thinks he knows far more then he really does. Nobody else on this whole forum will agree with you that Head is not funk. Parliament's (George Clinton) flash light is synth driven are you gonna say that's not funk? Funkadelic's (George Clinton)(not just) Nee deep is synth driven. That's not funk? George Clinton's atomic dog is Synth driven. I guess that's not funk. Zapp's (Roger troutman) more bounce to the ounce is all synths. I guess that's not funk.
Just stop, Please just stop.

Here read this. Scroll down to the title make it funky. I'm done with you
http://www.soul-patrol.co...career.htm


You tell him, Im with U. Also, Funk has been described as a sexual sweat and thats what I get when I dance to KISS, so CrucialExperience U can go KISS my sweaty Butt and stay the Funk out of ma music. wink

You're too dumb to even read the link, aren't you? eek lol
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Reply #84 posted 07/29/05 10:31am

roanmairin

TheCrucialExperience said:

SPOOKYGAS said:



You tell him, Im with U. Also, Funk has been described as a sexual sweat and thats what I get when I dance to KISS, so CrucialExperience U can go KISS my sweaty Butt and stay the Funk out of ma music. wink

You're too dumb to even read the link, aren't you? eek lol


Now play nice "crucial". Just because you don't get it is no reason to be mean.


no no no!
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Reply #85 posted 07/29/05 10:44am

roanmairin

A little history on the funk background of "Kiss".

“Kiss” was part of the stylistically diverse, art-rock album Parade, which also served as the soundtrack to Prince's second film Under a Cherry Moon. And, while the album as a whole sprawls in a multitude of directions, “Kiss” is firmly rooted in the funk milieu that Prince used as a foundation to launch himself out of the anonymity of the back streets of North Minneapolis in the mid- to late '70s. And speaking of foundations, “Kiss” managed to achieve radio hit status and dance club immortality without benefit of a bass part! More on that in a minute.
Dan Daley, MIX magazine



When Prince checked into the studio the next morning, he was surprised to hear his simple bluesy acoustic demo of “Kiss” transformed into an amazing funk number.
Johnson: We played it for Prince, who went ballistics! He went out to the basketball court, playing it loud on the ghetto blaster. He pretty much said, “This is too good for Mazarati.” It pissed us off as we had been up all night working on it.
Rivkin: The next morning Prince came in, took the tape, and put his voice and lead guitar on it. He said, “It was too good for you guys, I take it back.” He promised all kinds of stuff to us to make this thing happen, but in a way he didn’t consider anyone’s reactions.
Christian: The final result of the song was not what he had expected. He loved it! He said to us, “I liked the cut you did last night. I want to use it. Of course you guys will get paid for it.” We said, “Sure!” But we were flattered that Prince would even put something that we had done on his record. We finished “Kiss” at a a.m. and we came back at about 12.30 after an hour of sleep. And when we came back it was done! It took Prince less than an hour to put the guitar and his vocals on the song. We were playing ping-pong when we heard the song over the speakers, “Hey, that’s the song we did last night!” But Prince’s voice was on it. He’s quick!
Rogers: We thought the song was great. Prince said, “I’m taking that back!” But he knew that they were going to be really disappointed after they had put so much work into it. He wrestled with his conscious about taking it back. But he asked Peggy and me what we thought, and I was the one who voted in favour, “Take it back, it’s just great!” And he ended up taking it back.
Rivkin: There are drums, the acoustic guitar rhythm, the piano part, and the background vocals. Prince put the lead guitar and his voice on there, and that’s it. I think the song is on about five tracks.

By Per Nilsen.
Thanks to David J. Magdziarz, Alan Freed, Harold Lewis, Tony Melodia, and Duane Tudahl
Uptown 2004


You can learn something new everyday, hey crucial. That is if your not positive that you know everything already.

The history of Kiss is real interesting you should look into it sometime.
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Reply #86 posted 07/29/05 10:46am

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roanmairin said:

TheCrucialExperience said:


You're too dumb to even read the link, aren't you? eek lol


Now play nice "crucial". Just because you don't get it is no reason to be mean.


no no no!

That's funny, he started to talk smack first after I set him straight but YOU wanna come at ME about getting into someone's ass? LOL! Go to sleep, son.
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Reply #87 posted 07/29/05 10:47am

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A little history on the funk background of "Kiss".

“Kiss” was part of the stylistically diverse, art-rock album Parade, which also served as the soundtrack to Prince's second film Under a Cherry Moon. And, while the album as a whole sprawls in a multitude of directions, “Kiss” is firmly rooted in the funk milieu that Prince used as a foundation to launch himself out of the anonymity of the back streets of North Minneapolis in the mid- to late '70s. And speaking of foundations, “Kiss” managed to achieve radio hit status and dance club immortality without benefit of a bass part! More on that in a minute.
Dan Daley, MIX magazine



When Prince checked into the studio the next morning, he was surprised to hear his simple bluesy acoustic demo of “Kiss” transformed into an amazing funk number.
Johnson: We played it for Prince, who went ballistics! He went out to the basketball court, playing it loud on the ghetto blaster. He pretty much said, “This is too good for Mazarati.” It pissed us off as we had been up all night working on it.
Rivkin: The next morning Prince came in, took the tape, and put his voice and lead guitar on it. He said, “It was too good for you guys, I take it back.” He promised all kinds of stuff to us to make this thing happen, but in a way he didn’t consider anyone’s reactions.
Christian: The final result of the song was not what he had expected. He loved it! He said to us, “I liked the cut you did last night. I want to use it. Of course you guys will get paid for it.” We said, “Sure!” But we were flattered that Prince would even put something that we had done on his record. We finished “Kiss” at a a.m. and we came back at about 12.30 after an hour of sleep. And when we came back it was done! It took Prince less than an hour to put the guitar and his vocals on the song. We were playing ping-pong when we heard the song over the speakers, “Hey, that’s the song we did last night!” But Prince’s voice was on it. He’s quick!
Rogers: We thought the song was great. Prince said, “I’m taking that back!” But he knew that they were going to be really disappointed after they had put so much work into it. He wrestled with his conscious about taking it back. But he asked Peggy and me what we thought, and I was the one who voted in favour, “Take it back, it’s just great!” And he ended up taking it back.
Rivkin: There are drums, the acoustic guitar rhythm, the piano part, and the background vocals. Prince put the lead guitar and his voice on there, and that’s it. I think the song is on about five tracks.

By Per Nilsen.
Thanks to David J. Magdziarz, Alan Freed, Harold Lewis, Tony Melodia, and Duane Tudahl
Uptown 2004


You can learn something new everyday, hey crucial. That is if your not positive that you know everything already.

The history of Kiss is real interesting you should look into it sometime.


Yeah, I learned some people try and bullshit their way into being intelligent by using PIECES of things and thusly trying to make them WHOLE LOL! No thanks. I'll pass on the retard lessons, if you don't mind. wink
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Reply #88 posted 07/29/05 10:49am

Spookymuffin

There's too much funk to even contemplate his funkiest.
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Reply #89 posted 07/29/05 10:53am

roanmairin

TheCrucialExperience said:


Yeah, I learned some people try and bullshit their way into being intelligent by using PIECES of things and thusly trying to make them WHOLE LOL! No thanks. I'll pass on the retard lessons, if you don't mind. wink


Intelligent response! neutral
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