metalorange said:

They were credited with providing the background vocals, and David Z was credited for his arrangement.

Moonwalkbjrain said:

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Did you read the article?

“We were trying to build a song out of nothing, piece by piece. It was just a collection of ideas built around the idea of a song that wasn't finished yet. We didn't know where it was going. We were getting a little frustrated, we were exhausted, so we all went home for the night.”

That, however, would prove to be enough. At least for Prince. When Z returned to the studio the next day, he found Prince waiting for him. Sometime that morning, The Artist had apparently come into the studio, asked an assistant to put the track up and then recorded his own vocal and electric guitar part. Z was stunned.

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P finished the song.It went from a acoustic track to a funk track.
Some of you guys are big time haters.

Z began in his usual manner by creating a beat on a Linn 9000 drum machine. “The groove began to get complex, especially the hi-hat pattern,” he says. “I ran the hat through a delay unit, set about 150 milliseconds, printed that to tape and printed the original hat to another track and then alternated between ‘source’ and ‘blend’ on the delay unit, recording those passes. It created a pretty cool rhythm that was constantly changing in tone and complexity but was still steady. Then I played some guitar chords and gated them through a Kepex unit and used that to trigger various combinations of the hi-hat tracks. That gave us the basic rhythm groove for the song.”

Session bassist Mark Brown laid down a bass part, and one of the members of Maserati recorded a piano part that Z says he copped from an old Bo Diddley song called “Hey, Man.” The group's singer put down a lead vocal track an octave lower than Prince's original tenor, and some background vocal parts were invented, based on some ideas Z says he remembered from Brenda Lee's “Sweet Nothings.” “This is what we had at the end of the first couple of days,” Z says with a sigh. “We were trying to build a song out of nothing, piece by piece. It was just a collection of ideas built around the idea of a song that wasn't finished yet. We didn't know where it was going. We were getting a little frustrated, we were exhausted, so we all went home for the night.”

based on some ideas Z says he remembered from Brenda Lee's “Sweet Nothings.”

yea it went from acoustic PRINCE track. to filled out MAZERATI track. to funkier PRINCE track. ur missing a shitload of info in that article. yea prince added the electric guitar...AFTER hearing what Z and the guys had done ot it. By trying to prove a point u missed damn near two WHOLE paragraphs that shit on ur what u had to say.

yea it went from acoustic PRINCE track. to filled out MAZERATI track. to funkier PRINCE track. ur missing a shitload of info in that article. yea prince added the electric guitar...AFTER hearing what Z and the guys had done ot it. By trying to prove a point u missed damn near two WHOLE paragraphs that shit on ur what u had to say.

Moonwalkbjrain said:

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to funkier PRINCE track. The finished product my friend.

P finished the song.It went from a acoustic track to a funk track.

As badly as those wanna see the glass as half empty the others wanna see it half full.

...hmmm looking at my Parade liner notes:

"Kiss" arranged by David Z. Background voice by Mazarati...
The credits are in order. Maybe David shoulda gotten a co-producer credit but I think it's credited fairly. It's ridiculous to say that Mazarati should've gotten more credit than they did.

Besides Prince didn't cry for credit when he rewrote the lyrics to the songs that became Strawberry Lover and I Guess It's All Over.

Considering he never performs Kiss the same way whenever it's performed live I don't think it's that major. I don't think any of the parties involved are too mad about it anyway.

It's funny because whenever yall talk about Prince "stealing" ideas this cartoonish image comes into my head:



...like he sits around the studio devising evil plans to take what's not rightfully his...


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AntonioFargas said:

I don't know about some people on this thread, but my view isn't that prince is some kind of artistic kleptomaniac, but that he has neglected to give his collaborators the credit they deserved sometimes. If you look at the songwriting credits of say James Brown or George Clinton, there's tons of songs that have more than one author listed whereas prince albums usually say "produced arranged composed and performed by prince" as though the man landed on earth in a space capsule and was responsible for every aspect of the creation of his work at all times, which is plainly not true. In this particular case, I think Mazarati and David Z got a pretty fair credit, except that whatever instruments they played that are still in the mix should've been credited too and as you said, David Z probably could have gotten a co-producer credit.

I don't have Parade, honestly, so I was glad 2 read what was shared in the liner notes. But I have 2 agree that Prince needs 2 give mo' people some credit; Lawd!

Oliver said:

I don't know about some people on this thread, but my view isn't that prince is some kind of artistic kleptomaniac, but that he has neglected to give his collaborators the credit they deserved sometimes. If you look at the songwriting credits of say James Brown or George Clinton, there's tons of songs that have more than one author listed whereas prince albums usually say "produced arranged composed and performed by prince" as though the man landed on earth in a space capsule and was responsible for every aspect of the creation of his work at all times, which is plainly not true. In this particular case, I think Mazarati and David Z got a pretty fair credit, except that whatever instruments they played that are still in the mix should've been credited too and as you said, David Z probably could have gotten a co-producer credit.