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Inframan clip does'nt work, how can i see it?, i think i saw that movie in the mid 70's at the cinema [Edited 7/27/05 17:38pm] | |
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BananaCologne said: thekidsgirl said: Who are the members of Mazerati? and on their version who sings
lead ? (Gallery image #3423 not found!) thanks  If you will, so will I | |
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NouveauDance said: doctamario said: Was Mazarati ever pissed off that Prince sort of stole their hit? I mean, he came up with most of the song to begin with, I guess, but it was intended for them.
Prince's original demo was just him and an acoustic guitar, it's about a minute and a half long. So Mazarati really created it, except for the melody and the lyrics found in the original demo. I'd say it's 70% their song. David Z (Bobby's brother and producer of the PP Mazarati LP) and Terry Casey (lead singer) are both interviewed for the Uptown article over at Housequake (I posted the link above) - It's a good read, check it out 
[Edited 7/27/05 13:47pm] cool, thx. Don't hurt me, I'm a newb. I'm supposed to be stupid. | |
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I don't know if these are in the gallery, but here are some larger scans of the album (you can nab 'em for the gallery if they're not there, nach):
I love that damn album. I love the band's look (could they exist at any other time, other than pre-85?!! 
And the album is a briliant slice of 80s funk - great lyrics too, especially in Strawberry Lover and Suzy (which is about fallin' for a girl, who's really a guy)   [Edited 7/28/05 1:14am] | |
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NouveauDance said:
Their album is excellent,but those outfits are hideous 
BrownMark made sure that people knew it was Prince's idea."He made them look like that...put them in those clothes",he said. | |
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I love their outfits!!
Pop groups wouldn't be seen dead in anything like that these days, we've lost so much fun and dare from pop music, it's all identikit these days - these kids don't wanna be rebels, they wanna fit in.  | |
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They looked like the Black Poison or Motley Crue (or any big hair metal bands from the 80s) | |
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Kiss is probably the song I hate the most that is known and played to death by our buddy P 
P retire that song like you did 1999 | |
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PANDURITO said: Mazarati's?
I thought it was Tom Jones' Some people don't even know Prince wrote 'Careless Whisper'.  | |
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wallysafford said: PRINCE'S “KISS” Dan Daley
Mix, Jun 1, 2001 By 1986, when Prince recorded this month's Classic Track, “Kiss,” he was among the most popular and critically lauded artists in America... These days, neither one would have had a chance in hell.” Thanks for posting that, Wally! I kinda wish there was such thourough write-up for the extended version Did he record the second part with the entire Revolution? Do tell! Schöne Grüße! "Whatever skin we're in
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NouveauDance said: I love their outfits!!
Pop groups wouldn't be seen dead in anything like that these days, we've lost so much fun and dare from pop music, it's all identikit these days - these kids don't wanna be rebels, they wanna fit in. Hell yeah! They had a bad ass look. People these days are scared to be an individual and have their own look. The clothes that people wear today look like they come from Wal-Mart but they have a Rodeo Drive price tag on them. Andy is a four letter word. | |
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So basically Prince has been stilling ideas from people for years.
Kind of explains why so many of his past associates have nothing to do with him anymore. "Put a glide in your stride, and a dip in your hip, and come on to the mothership" | |
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CreamyThighs said:
They looked like the Black Poison or Motley Crue (or any big hair metal bands from the 80s) I thought the same thing!!! Looks like the cover to 'Look What The Cat Dragged In' 
Schöne Gruß 
PS. the font is the same on 'The Family' album, innit? [Edited 8/7/05 11:02am] "Whatever skin we're in
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i was very surprised to find that prince wasn't responsible for it. the whole sound and feel of the song is SO "princey"! i love the stuttery feel of the whole song and that falsetto is so perfect. the production sounds so fresh and the song is still my favourite EVER. | |
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CleopatraJones said: So basically Prince has been stilling ideas from people for years.
Kind of explains why so many of his past associates have nothing to do with him anymore. prince is like a sponge. he absorbes the techinques and knowledge from his band mates, helping himself to become better and better. didn't prince himself say that having john blackwell as his drummer helped his advance himself as a drummer? one could say he steals, but on the other hand, you could say he's merely learning. i doubt he would be the musician he is today if he had not worked with some of the people he has worked with. | |
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CleopatraJones said: So basically Prince has been stilling ideas from people for years.
Kind of explains why so many of his past associates have nothing to do with him anymore. that is bullshit | |
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NouveauDance said: doctamario said: Was Mazarati ever pissed off that Prince sort of stole their hit? I mean, he came up with most of the song to begin with, I guess, but it was intended for them.
Prince's original demo was just him and an acoustic guitar, it's about a minute and a half long. So Mazarati really created it, except for the melody and the lyrics found in the original demo. I'd say it's 70% their song. David Z (Bobby's brother and producer of the PP Mazarati LP) and Terry Casey (lead singer) are both interviewed for the Uptown article over at Housequake (I posted the link above) - It's a good read, check it out
[Edited 7/27/05 13:47pm] ----- The song sounded like a folk song that Stephen Stills might have done,” Z recalls. “I didn't quite know what to do with it and neither did the group.” Kind of tells the whole story. The group did not know what to do with it and Prince completed the song. How can it be 70% Mazarati's song. | |
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CreamyThighs said: CleopatraJones said: So basically Prince has been stilling ideas from people for years.
Kind of explains why so many of his past associates have nothing to do with him anymore. that is bullshit ----- Yes, it is bullshit but some people believe what they want to believe. | |
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laurarichardson said: NouveauDance said: Prince's original demo was just him and an acoustic guitar, it's about a minute and a half long. So Mazarati really created it, except for the melody and the lyrics found in the original demo. I'd say it's 70% their song. [/b] The song sounded like a folk song that Stephen Stills might have done,” Z recalls. “I didn't quite know what to do with it and neither did the group.” Kind of tells the whole story. The group did not know what to do with it and Prince completed the song. How can it be 70% Mazarati's song. Have you heard the original Mazarati version? I say it's more their song than Prince's. If you disagree, that's your opinion. Little Miss Sour-Puss 2005. | |
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MashedPotatoKid said: prince is like a sponge. he absorbes the techinques and knowledge from his band mates, helping himself to become better and better. didn't prince himself say that having john blackwell as his drummer helped his advance himself as a drummer? one could say he steals, but on the other hand, you could say he's merely learning. i doubt he would be the musician he is today if he had not worked with some of the people he has worked with. Exactly, MP Kid! Also wanna add that there's only 12 notes. The only way to get them together in a new way is to observe and absorb. Schöne Gruß "Whatever skin we're in
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Yeah I wanna this kind of detail on the extended version. It totally takes it to another level!
And I beleive it's Wendy (or maybe Susannah?) playing Sophi to Prince's "Sol".  |
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laurarichardson said: NouveauDance said: Prince's original demo was just him and an acoustic guitar, it's about a minute and a half long. So Mazarati really created it, except for the melody and the lyrics found in the original demo. I'd say it's 70% their song. David Z (Bobby's brother and producer of the PP Mazarati LP) and Terry Casey (lead singer) are both interviewed for the Uptown article over at Housequake (I posted the link above) - It's a good read, check it out
[Edited 7/27/05 13:47pm] ----- The song sounded like a folk song that Stephen Stills might have done,” Z recalls. “I didn't quite know what to do with it and neither did the group.” Kind of tells the whole story. The group did not know what to do with it and Prince completed the song. How can it be 70% Mazarati's song. dude did u even READ the article? put down to kool aid 4 two secs ok? prince brought them a 1verse demo track, with p on the acoustic. thats IT. no bass. no drums. no additional guitar. not even a second verse! then david and mazerati added more vocals, bass, drums, piano. they filled the friggin song out! and then p took it bak cuz he was feelin what they'd done to it and then after he took it bak he changed some things around, like takin out the bass Yesterday is dead...tomorrow hasnt arrived yet....i have just ONE day...
...And i'm gonna be groovy in it! | |
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isn't David Z. still credited for the work he did on "Kiss"? | |
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The groove began to get complex, especially the hi-hat pattern, he says. I ran the hat through a delay unit, set about 150 milliseconds, printed that to tape and printed the original hat to another track and then alternated between ‘source’ and ‘blend’ on the delay unit, recording those passes. It created a pretty cool rhythm that was constantly changing in tone and complexity but was still steady. Then I played some guitar chords and gated them through a Kepex unit and used that to trigger various combinations of the hi-hat tracks. That gave us the basic rhythm groove for the song.
Sounds awfully complicated. | |
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Moonwalkbjrain said: laurarichardson said: ----- The song sounded like a folk song that Stephen Stills might have done,” Z recalls. “I didn't quite know what to do with it and neither did the group.” Kind of tells the whole story. The group did not know what to do with it and Prince completed the song. How can it be 70% Mazarati's song. dude did u even READ the article? put down to kool aid 4 two secs ok? prince brought them a 1verse demo track, with p on the acoustic. thats IT. no bass. no drums. no additional guitar. not even a second verse! then david and mazerati added more vocals, bass, drums, piano. they filled the friggin song out! and then p took it bak cuz he was feelin what they'd done to it and then after he took it bak he changed some things around, like takin out the bass ----- Did you read the article? “We were trying to build a song out of nothing, piece by piece. It was just a collection of ideas built around the idea of a song that wasn't finished yet. We didn't know where it was going. We were getting a little frustrated, we were exhausted, so we all went home for the night.” That, however, would prove to be enough. At least for Prince. When Z returned to the studio the next day, he found Prince waiting for him. Sometime that morning, The Artist had apparently come into the studio, asked an assistant to put the track up and then recorded his own vocal and electric guitar part. Z was stunned. ----- P finished the song.It went from a acoustic track to a funk track. Some of you guys are big time haters. | |
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laurarichardson said: Moonwalkbjrain said: dude did u even READ the article? put down to kool aid 4 two secs ok? prince brought them a 1verse demo track, with p on the acoustic. thats IT. no bass. no drums. no additional guitar. not even a second verse! then david and mazerati added more vocals, bass, drums, piano. they filled the friggin song out! and then p took it bak cuz he was feelin what they'd done to it and then after he took it bak he changed some things around, like takin out the bass ----- Did you read the article? “We were trying to build a song out of nothing, piece by piece. It was just a collection of ideas built around the idea of a song that wasn't finished yet. We didn't know where it was going. We were getting a little frustrated, we were exhausted, so we all went home for the night.” That, however, would prove to be enough. At least for Prince. When Z returned to the studio the next day, he found Prince waiting for him. Sometime that morning, The Artist had apparently come into the studio, asked an assistant to put the track up and then recorded his own vocal and electric guitar part. Z was stunned. ----- P finished the song.It went from a acoustic track to a funk track. Some of you guys are big time haters. [Edited 8/9/05 9:17am] I'm sick and tired of the Prince fans being sick and tired of the Prince fans that are sick and tired! | |
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laurarichardson said: Some of you guys are big time haters. Sure we are. [flame snip - luv4u] | |
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I'm not a musician, so I'm not understanding some of the technical references here...
But my favorite part of Kiss is that quirky guitar riff at the beginning that is repeated as sort of a musical chorus throughout the song.... (you know the one I'm talking about).. did Prince come up with that? That's all I want to know ... cuz that's the most kick-azz part of the song to me and gives loads of personality.. [Edited 8/9/05 9:51am] | |
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GaryMF said: Yeah I wanna this kind of detail on the extended version. It totally takes it to another level!
And I beleive it's Wendy (or maybe Susannah?) playing Sophi to Prince's "Sol". That's what I'm thinking. Mazarati does seem to be mostly responsible for what the song wound up sounding like, but who came up with all the stuff in the extended version  | |
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metalorange said: For those of you who are new fans and read this and don't know, Mazarati were recording their album at Paisley Park, they needed another song so Prince wrote Kiss for them very quickly on an acoustic guitar. The next day Prince comes in and hears that they have turned it into a fantastic funky song. He decides he wants the song back and overdubs the vocals, giving Mazarati another song as a replacement instead.
Well, you can look at it that Mazarati were basically another Prince protege band, so them making music that sounds like what Prince would do is not such a leap! Still, he should have credited them in some way. Prince didn't even take them out of the mix - you can still hear them singing on the chorus I believe. [Edited 7/26/05 5:08am] yep,the background vocals are Mazarati.I miss those dudes! larry luvlife
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