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Thread started 07/12/05 10:51pm

Krystal666

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Little snipit from Poseessed

What did you think of the fighting with Wendy and Lisa that Prince was doing in the eighties??? I found this little snipit from Possessed so unlike Prince it just makes my jaw drop.

"...acording to Susan Rogers , spats between the bandleader and guitarist (Wendy) were a 'weekly if not daily occurrence.' One rehearsal at the Washington Avenue warehouse degenerated into a shouting match between Prince and Wendy and Lisa, according to Matt Fink. 'You fucking lesbians, you're gonna rot in hell for your lifestyle!' Prince screamed. 'You're a fucking womanizer.' retorted Wendy. 'You're such a prick and a control freak. You're just a womanizing pig."

To this day I still don't understand why Prince turned on his friends/bandmates like that.
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Reply #1 posted 07/12/05 11:01pm

Snap

Possessed is like the National Enquirer -- so many lies mixed in with the truth, it's best not to read it at all lest ye believe what is not true.
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Reply #2 posted 07/13/05 5:43am

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I read this book about a year ago and this author seems to want to shine a rather negative light on Prince. Does anyone know the connection between Alex Hahn and Prince. It just seemed really personal like they had a beef or something.
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Reply #3 posted 07/13/05 6:08am

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That is such shit...

So obviously made-up.
"He's a musician's musician..."
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Reply #4 posted 07/13/05 6:13am

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destinyismine said:

I read this book about a year ago and this author seems to want to shine a rather negative light on Prince. Does anyone know the connection between Alex Hahn and Prince. It just seemed really personal like they had a beef or something.


Hahn represented Uptown when Prince took them to court.
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Reply #5 posted 07/13/05 6:20am

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The only problems I had with the book were the author's biased album reviews that had to be taken with a grain of salt and the occasional spelling error.

I thought all the information in this book was derived from interviews or outside research. Just how much is blatantly untrue?
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Reply #6 posted 07/13/05 6:40am

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I'm not defending the book Possessed, but I do have a CD of a rehersal where Prince yells out 2 Lisa "put the MF'n magazine down and play ur part!". And besides that, I'm sure Wendy was in defense of her sister. I'm sure she didn't appreciate that fact that Prince was with other girls while being with Susannah, especially being a lesbian 2 boot. I know she disliked it.
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Reply #7 posted 07/13/05 7:45am

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Dugen said:

I'm not defending the book Possessed, but I do have a CD of a rehersal where Prince yells out 2 Lisa "put the MF'n magazine down and play ur part!". And besides that, I'm sure Wendy was in defense of her sister. I'm sure she didn't appreciate that fact that Prince was with other girls while being with Susannah, especially being a lesbian 2 boot. I know she disliked it.



Wendy and Lisa had to have known Prince had a habit of dating two and three woman at a time before he started dating Susannah Melvoin. If they didn't bother to warn her about him before she hooked with him then that's on them. If they did warn her and she ignored it then that's on her. neutral
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Reply #8 posted 07/13/05 8:38am

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MetroArea said:

destinyismine said:

I read this book about a year ago and this author seems to want to shine a rather negative light on Prince. Does anyone know the connection between Alex Hahn and Prince. It just seemed really personal like they had a beef or something.


Hahn represented Uptown when Prince took them to court.


As legal counsel?
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Reply #9 posted 07/13/05 8:47am

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Yes Hahn was legal counsel for Uptown and I think it was pro bono (without pay).
Eventually they settled out of court and Hahn wrote the book with info he had gleaned from sources during the lawsuit. Hahn used to hang out around here when it was the antiPrince.org but after Musicology's success the antiPrince crowd sunk back into the shadows.
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Reply #10 posted 07/13/05 8:49am

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Two very good books on Prince that present the good, bad ,and ugly are Purple Reign by Liz Jones and DSMR by the legendary Per Nilsen.
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Reply #11 posted 07/13/05 8:52am

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muleFunk said:

Yes Hahn was legal counsel for Uptown and I think it was pro bono (without pay).
Eventually they settled out of court and Hahn wrote the book with info he had gleaned from sources during the lawsuit. Hahn used to hang out around here when it was the antiPrince.org but after Musicology's success the antiPrince crowd sunk back into the shadows.


Damn, pro bono. He must have really wanted to stick it to him.
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Reply #12 posted 07/13/05 9:02am

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Ifsixwuz9 said:

Dugen said:

I'm not defending the book Possessed, but I do have a CD of a rehersal where Prince yells out 2 Lisa "put the MF'n magazine down and play ur part!". And besides that, I'm sure Wendy was in defense of her sister. I'm sure she didn't appreciate that fact that Prince was with other girls while being with Susannah, especially being a lesbian 2 boot. I know she disliked it.



Wendy and Lisa had to have known Prince had a habit of dating two and three woman at a time before he started dating Susannah Melvoin. If they didn't bother to warn her about him before she hooked with him then that's on them. If they did warn her and she ignored it then that's on her. neutral



wait a minute...didnt wendy just join the band when sus and him started dating? and lisa, well....i kinda get the impression lisa is the silent, i aint fucking with nobody type....and she was the one that was with prince the longest....

and werent wendy and sus like 19 at the time? young love.....come on dog, you remember how that goes.....happy, ignorant and oversexed....


damn, i miss those innocent days.. sigh

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Reply #13 posted 07/13/05 9:06am

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and in prince's defense, wendy and he seemed to act more like a married couple so while his comments were innappropriate, you could tell they loved each other..and knew how to get under each other's skin...


now lisa, i bet you all she had to do was give prince "that stare" and he would shut the fuck up.....
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Reply #14 posted 07/13/05 10:01am

miguelbulcao

Prince talks dirty lol

Maybe he's like that when he fucks! lol
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Reply #15 posted 07/13/05 10:02am

Dugen

Yup, Wendy and her twin sister Susannah were around 19 when they entered the picture. And even if they knew how he was and warned her about some of his ways it still wouldn't stop her from getting upset on behalf of her sibling.
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Reply #16 posted 07/13/05 10:44am

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I wasn't there,I couldn't tell ya...
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Reply #17 posted 07/13/05 10:44am

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Giovanni777 said:

That is such shit...

So obviously made-up.


Actually it's not made up at all.
Just ask Wendy, Lisa, Susannah, Susan Rogers or Prince himself.
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Reply #18 posted 07/13/05 10:48am

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sosgemini said:

and in prince's defense, wendy and he seemed to act more like a married couple so while his comments were innappropriate, you could tell they loved each other..and knew how to get under each other's skin...

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now lisa, i bet you all she had to do was give prince "that stare" and he would shut the fuck up.....

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Reply #19 posted 07/13/05 10:52am

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Handclapsfingasnapz said:

sosgemini said:

and in prince's defense, wendy and he seemed to act more like a married couple so while his comments were innappropriate, you could tell they loved each other..and knew how to get under each other's skin...

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now lisa, i bet you all she had to do was give prince "that stare" and he would shut the fuck up.....

evillol


Very true, heated arguements between friends can look downright vicious to
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Reply #20 posted 07/13/05 12:58pm

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Krystal666 said:

What did you think of the fighting with Wendy and Lisa that Prince was doing in the eighties??? I found this little snipit from Possessed so unlike Prince it just makes my jaw drop.

"...acording to Susan Rogers , spats between the bandleader and guitarist (Wendy) were a 'weekly if not daily occurrence.' One rehearsal at the Washington Avenue warehouse degenerated into a shouting match between Prince and Wendy and Lisa, according to Matt Fink. 'You fucking lesbians, you're gonna rot in hell for your lifestyle!' Prince screamed. 'You're a fucking womanizer.' retorted Wendy. 'You're such a prick and a control freak. You're just a womanizing pig."

To this day I still don't understand why Prince turned on his friends/bandmates like that.

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I don't believe everything in the book but, Prince was running around on Wendy's sister and she had issues with this. Wrong for Wendy to be in Prince's business but it was also wrong for him to take out his relationship problems with Susan on Wendy.

Just shows you that you should not mix business with pleasure.
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Reply #21 posted 07/13/05 1:01pm

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miguelbulcao said:

Prince talks dirty lol

Maybe he's like that when he fucks! lol


You are SO going to marry me next summer.
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Reply #22 posted 07/13/05 6:56pm

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sosgemini said:

Ifsixwuz9 said:




Wendy and Lisa had to have known Prince had a habit of dating two and three woman at a time before he started dating Susannah Melvoin. If they didn't bother to warn her about him before she hooked with him then that's on them. If they did warn her and she ignored it then that's on her. neutral



wait a minute...didnt wendy just join the band when sus and him started dating? and lisa, well....i kinda get the impression lisa is the silent, i aint fucking with nobody type....and she was the one that was with prince the longest....

and werent wendy and sus like 19 at the time? young love.....come on dog, you remember how that goes.....happy, ignorant and oversexed....


damn, i miss those innocent days.. sigh

biggrin


Not sure what your point is here. Wendy was in the band (or at the very least had started hanging around and traveling with them before Dez's departure) when he was seeing Susan Moosie, Jill Jones, and Vanity. And she was also around when he was seeing Sheila E. between late '84 and early '85 when they were recording her album. So if Wendy and Lisa chose not to warn Susannah or if Susannah ignored their warning there's really no need for any of them bitch about it after the fact.
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Reply #23 posted 07/13/05 7:13pm

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Ifsixwuz9 said:

sosgemini said:




wait a minute...didnt wendy just join the band when sus and him started dating? and lisa, well....i kinda get the impression lisa is the silent, i aint fucking with nobody type....and she was the one that was with prince the longest....

and werent wendy and sus like 19 at the time? young love.....come on dog, you remember how that goes.....happy, ignorant and oversexed....


damn, i miss those innocent days.. sigh

biggrin


Not sure what your point is here. Wendy was in the band (or at the very least had started hanging around and traveling with them before Dez's departure) when he was seeing Susan Moosie, Jill Jones, and Vanity. And she was also around when he was seeing Sheila E. between late '84 and early '85 when they were recording her album. So if Wendy and Lisa chose not to warn Susannah or if Susannah ignored their warning there's really no need for any of them bitch about it after the fact.



confuse

who was bitchin? wendy and prince had a personal relationship that had ups and downs just like all relationships.....
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Reply #24 posted 07/13/05 7:44pm

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sosgemini said:

Ifsixwuz9 said:



Not sure what your point is here. Wendy was in the band (or at the very least had started hanging around and traveling with them before Dez's departure) when he was seeing Susan Moosie, Jill Jones, and Vanity. And she was also around when he was seeing Sheila E. between late '84 and early '85 when they were recording her album. So if Wendy and Lisa chose not to warn Susannah or if Susannah ignored their warning there's really no need for any of them bitch about it after the fact.



confuse

who was bitchin? wendy and prince had a personal relationship that had ups and downs just like all relationships.....


Wendy. And it's just a figure of speech. Jesus H christ. You really need not police the board for anything said about W&L so much.
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Reply #25 posted 07/13/05 9:41pm

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Ifsixwuz9 said:

sosgemini said:




confuse

who was bitchin? wendy and prince had a personal relationship that had ups and downs just like all relationships.....


Wendy. And it's just a figure of speech. Jesus H christ. You really need not police the board for anything said about W&L so much.


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Reply #26 posted 07/14/05 9:18am

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Ifsixwuz9 said:

sosgemini said:




confuse

who was bitchin? wendy and prince had a personal relationship that had ups and downs just like all relationships.....


Wendy. And it's just a figure of speech. Jesus H christ. You really need not police the board for anything said about W&L so much.



im policing? im just trying to understand your point.....theres a quote from an argument up above..somebody mentions that wendy might have been bitchy because of sus and prince's relationship and you jump the shark and start saying wendy is bitching *about* sus and prince breaking up....

gee, and now your getting your panties in a bunch and having diamondgirl once again talk loud while saying nothing...

shrug

i aint policing shit..just trying to understand your stank...
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Reply #27 posted 07/14/05 11:18am

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sosgemini said:

Ifsixwuz9 said:



Wendy. And it's just a figure of speech. Jesus H christ. You really need not police the board for anything said about W&L so much.



im policing? im just trying to understand your point.....theres a quote from an argument up above..somebody mentions that wendy might have been bitchy because of sus and prince's relationship and you jump the shark and start saying wendy is bitching *about* sus and prince breaking up....

gee, and now your getting your panties in a bunch and having diamondgirl once again talk loud while saying nothing...

shrug


i aint policing shit..just trying to understand your stank...



What in the blue hell are you talking about? I never mentioned anything about prince and susannah's break up, or Wendy bitching about their break-up. And, your initial comment to me was irrelevant to what I posted in the first place. Furthermore, you are the one (on yet another thread) getting your panties in a wad becuase of a comment about W&L that you didn't agree with (and obviously didn't comprehend).
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Reply #28 posted 07/14/05 11:24am

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Ifsixwuz9 said:

sosgemini said:




im policing? im just trying to understand your point.....theres a quote from an argument up above..somebody mentions that wendy might have been bitchy because of sus and prince's relationship and you jump the shark and start saying wendy is bitching *about* sus and prince breaking up....

gee, and now your getting your panties in a bunch and having diamondgirl once again talk loud while saying nothing...

shrug


i aint policing shit..just trying to understand your stank...



What in the blue hell are you talking about? I never mentioned anything about prince and susannah's break up, or Wendy bitching about their break-up. And, your initial comment to me was irrelevant to what I posted in the first place. Furthermore, you are the one (on yet another thread) getting your panties in a wad becuase of a comment about W&L that you didn't agree with (and obviously didn't comprehend).



once again i was simply asking for a clarification of your point....because i thought i *did* misunderstand the point you were making..

but, hey....keep talking your shit about me..if it makes you feel better. thumbs up!
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Reply #29 posted 07/14/05 3:27pm

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sosgemini said:

Ifsixwuz9 said:




What in the blue hell are you talking about? I never mentioned anything about prince and susannah's break up, or Wendy bitching about their break-up. And, your initial comment to me was irrelevant to what I posted in the first place. Furthermore, you are the one (on yet another thread) getting your panties in a wad becuase of a comment about W&L that you didn't agree with (and obviously didn't comprehend).



once again i was simply asking for a clarification of your point....because i thought i *did* misunderstand the point you were making..

but, hey....keep talking your shit about me..if it makes you feel better. thumbs up!



Again, what the hell are you going on about. I never mentioned you in my original post. You jumped in and responded to my post with something that was irrelevant to my comment. And now you have the gall to claim I'm talking shit about you. I said you need not police the boards regarding W&L comments and I stand by that. Period. (And that was after you jumped in on a comment not directed at you or about you.) LOL! Get a friggin' grip.
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