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Printablethedoorkeeper said: After reading this thread I played disc 2 from Emancipation
& the song I really found impressive after all these years is Lets Have A Baby. I've avoided listening to it for years because of the whole Prince/baby connection so its like finding a lost gem of a song. I think I listened to it 5 times last night.  Now THAT's a beautiful song! | |
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I love One Kiss at a Time and the only ballads I consider better are I.L.,
Do Me Baby, Scandalous, and Insatiable. I think it is a great song and is truly underrated. I love it everytime I hear it to this day!! Yes to me Emancipation in some places sounds over produced but more than anything it sounds like in a few places he could've used an editor but still I think there are some good tracks on it. Mos' def' forgot to put ADORE at the top of that list!  [Edited 7/14/05 17:30pm] "Why'd I waste my kisses on you baby?" R.I.P. Prince You've finally found your way back home. Well Done. | |
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wallysafford said: I am disgusted when Prince copies D'angelo or Jodeci's rim-shot sample(he has been doing this since 1995).
The keyboards sound like those floor-model synth's at Guitar Center(at least bother proramming your synth sounds,stop using the factory presets!!!). The lyrics are sacchrine. Prince copied R.Kelly's backing vocal arrangement on this track also(terrible). All in all=this song really blows!This is the most derivative I have ever heard Prince. This was when I lost track of him,when he lost track of himself.... ----- Once again you have not idea what you are talking about. One Kiss At A Time is a romatic ballad. What in God's green earth does it have to do with the "Booty Songs " of R Kelly and Jodeci. Nothing !!! In fact R Kelly could learn a lot from Prince about writing romatic ballads. No one really gives a rat ass about the synth's sounding like they came from Guitar Center. Who listens to music and thinks about this stuff? | |
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shorttrini said: wallysafford said: I am disgusted when Prince copies D'angelo or Jodeci's rim-shot sample(he has been doing this since 1995).
The keyboards sound like those floor-model synth's at Guitar Center(at least bother proramming your synth sounds,stop using the factory presets!!!). The lyrics are sacchrine. Prince copied R.Kelly's backing vocal arrangement on this track also(terrible). All in all=this song really blows!This is the most derivative I have ever heard Prince. This was when I lost track of him,when he lost track of himself.... This song in no way sounds like something D' angelo, Jodeci, or R.Kelly would write. While it is not one of his best, it is by far not his worst. This is the kind of song that one would play in the background. Those tracks by Jodeci and K. Kelly, are the types of songs that you play, when there is no romance involved, when u just wanna get some booty. "One kiss at a time" is just that. It is a song that is smooth and slow. It takes into account the art of romance. All the songs by these other artist is just about the drawers!!. [Edited 7/13/05 13:57pm] ----- Co-Sign | |
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wallysafford said: Actually,I was refering to the production of the song.
Sounds an awful lot like most other r&b songs from 1996. ----- "Sounds an awful lot like most other r&b songs from 1996.[/quote]" Yes, it is god awful to produce a commericial CD when you just signed a new recording contract with a new record company. It would have been real smart to come out with something experimental. (LOL). | |
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laurarichardson said: wallysafford said: Actually,I was refering to the production of the song.
Sounds an awful lot like most other r&b songs from 1996. ----- "Sounds an awful lot like most other r&b songs from 1996. Yes, it is god awful to produce a commericial CD when you just signed a new recording contract with a new record company. It would have been real smart to come out with something experimental. (LOL).[/quote] No,what I said was-to my ears,it sounds awful when Prince makes commercial-sounding records that imitate Jodeci,R.Kelly and D'angelo records. Then again,nobody is supposed to have an opinion but You,right?(LOL) [Edited 7/14/05 17:38pm] | |
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Love this track. Beautiful song. Paul G II
"If you set your mind free baby... maybe you'll understand" | |
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laurarichardson said: wallysafford said: I am disgusted when Prince copies D'angelo or Jodeci's rim-shot sample(he has been doing this since 1995).
The keyboards sound like those floor-model synth's at Guitar Center(at least bother proramming your synth sounds,stop using the factory presets!!!). The lyrics are sacchrine. Prince copied R.Kelly's backing vocal arrangement on this track also(terrible). All in all=this song really blows!This is the most derivative I have ever heard Prince. This was when I lost track of him,when he lost track of himself.... ----- Once again you have not idea what you are talking about. One Kiss At A Time is a romatic ballad. What in God's green earth does it have to do with the "Booty Songs " of R Kelly and Jodeci. Nothing !!! In fact R Kelly could learn a lot from Prince about writing romatic ballads. No one really gives a rat ass about the synth's sounding like they came from Guitar Center. Who listens to music and thinks about this stuff? 1 I do know what I'm talking about,thank You. 2.When I am feeling "romantic",I have never told my woman-" I gotta get up on it".... 3.If I didn't give a "rats ass" about the production and instrumentation of a track,I wouldn't waste my time offering up an opinion about it. 4.It is called a personal opinion,it is allowed. | |
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[b]i love that song sooo much....it reminds me the good old times that i had wit my bf...in a good way not nasty way ...thank i ain't the only one who listen to that song...peace n b wild | |
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wallysafford said: laurarichardson said: ----- Once again you have not idea what you are talking about. One Kiss At A Time is a romatic ballad. What in God's green earth does it have to do with the "Booty Songs " of R Kelly and Jodeci. Nothing !!! In fact R Kelly could learn a lot from Prince about writing romatic ballads. No one really gives a rat ass about the synth's sounding like they came from Guitar Center. Who listens to music and thinks about this stuff? 1 I do know what I'm talking about,thank You. 2.When I am feeling "romantic",I have never told my woman-" I gotta get up on it".... WORD! My idea of romantic songs, for example, are songs I've compiled on discs I titled "Romance",such as "So Amazing"-Luther, "Golden Touch"-Rose Royce", "Tender Love"-Force M.D.'s. "One Kiss At A Time" does not make me think or feel Romance. I've put that song on another comp. with songs such as:"Do Me, Baby", "Tonight"-RFTW, "Insatiable". I used to call this comp. simply "SEX". I've renamed it "INTIMACY", for better class.  | |
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Sooooo! maybe LauraRichardson is the one who don't know what she is talking about...hmmmmm.couldn't be,she is alway's right... [Edited 7/15/05 12:46pm] | |
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wallysafford said: Sooooo! maybe LauraRichardson is the one who don't know what she is talking about...hmmmmm.couldn't be,she is alway's right...
[Edited 7/15/05 12:46pm] Oh yeah, you mentioned the " I gotta get up on it" part which reminded me of the "come and get ur cum on" part!  | |
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AsianConnection said: wallysafford said: 1 I do know what I'm talking about,thank You. 2.When I am feeling "romantic",I have never told my woman-" I gotta get up on it".... WORD! My idea of romantic songs, for example, are songs I've compiled on discs I titled "Romance",such as "So Amazing"-Luther, "Golden Touch"-Rose Royce", "Tender Love"-Force M.D.'s. "One Kiss At A Time" does not make me think or feel Romance. I've put that song on another comp. with songs such as:"Do Me, Baby", "Tonight"-RFTW, "Insatiable". I used to call this comp. simply "SEX". I've renamed it "INTIMACY", for better class. Let's face it, One kiss at a time is a romantic sense in a "not gonna beat around the bush", sorta way. The songs mentioned above, Tender love, So Amazing, while good songs are only songs that sugar coat the real deal. I don't think that one is gonna continue telling his lady just how amazing she is when he is about to bust a ....well....you know... All these songs have there place, but I would rather songs like, "One kiss at a time" and "Sex in the Summer" these are songs that keep it real. "Love is like peeing in your pants, everyone sees it but only you feel its warmth" |
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shorttrini said: AsianConnection said: WORD! My idea of romantic songs, for example, are songs I've compiled on discs I titled "Romance",such as "So Amazing"-Luther, "Golden Touch"-Rose Royce", "Tender Love"-Force M.D.'s. "One Kiss At A Time" does not make me think or feel Romance. I've put that song on another comp. with songs such as:"Do Me, Baby", "Tonight"-RFTW, "Insatiable". I used to call this comp. simply "SEX". I've renamed it "INTIMACY", for better class. Let's face it, One kiss at a time is a romantic sense in a "not gonna beat around the bush", sorta way. The songs mentioned above, Tender love, So Amazing, while good songs are only songs that sugar coat the real deal. I don't think that one is gonna continue telling his lady just how amazing she is when he is about to bust a ....well....you know... All these songs have there place, but I would rather songs like, "One kiss at a time" and "Sex in the Summer" these are songs that keep it real.  Ok, they all lead to that one thing! But, there is a lot more to it than the physical aspect of it all. It is about the state of mind that you may be in at a particular time. That may depend on the woman/man that you are with, or where you are in the relationship. Are you familiar with "SLOW LOVE"? | |
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i have never heard such pap from so many regarding a peak-period work of art. all this whining about emancipation riddles me. have you people slapped on some headphones and actually listened (not partied to, not driven to, not cooked your dinner to)? i suspect not. admittedly, there are perhaps 4-8 'filler' songs of the midtempo variety. but i agree with prince if he in fact said leading up to it's release that it includes his strongest songs.
"slowly i pull your strap down/and touch you as if to heal./layer by layer/inch by inch/until your True Love is revealed". Therein lies the beauty of emancipation. Never before had prince given as much of his heart as he did on this project. He was at his most emotionally vulnerable/available and poured out the most sincere songs of his career. OneKissAtATime: the harmonies alone on this track are worth it. there is no posturing. there is no ego. d'angelo wouldn't know heart if it held his feet while he did sit ups. r'kelly? please. that guy's got no filter so 4 out of every 100 songs is listenable and not the work of a child. This is a mature track by an artist who knows every trick and trap and manages to side-step them all. TheProduction: all this complaining about emancipation leads me back to where i started. what are you people 'listening' to? Emancipation is the culmination of all that came before. all the hooks are there, though now subtlely tucked in the track. this is prince at his minimalist best. minimal? yep. every overdub Sounds like prince. his touch is everywhere. the heart is in the bass. the keys. the guitar. the vocals. the attention to detail and the lack of anything unnecessary fulfills Mile's assertion the Prince had, in fact, beCOME the next Duke Ellington. His use of dynamics on this album are unparalleled in modern r&b. it may be 'clean', but it's full-bodied and warm. there is no sense of that false, pristine bs that passes for today's this-came-with-my-computer-and-all-i-do-is-cut-and-paste-and-get-sounds-from-this-machine pop landscape. What constitutes a 'producer' these days is a slap in the face to all true 'sound' lovers. Emancipation is the work of a man at his most focused peak. so there. | |
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AsianConnection said: shorttrini said: Let's face it, One kiss at a time is a romantic sense in a "not gonna beat around the bush", sorta way. The songs mentioned above, Tender love, So Amazing, while good songs are only songs that sugar coat the real deal. I don't think that one is gonna continue telling his lady just how amazing she is when he is about to bust a ....well....you know... All these songs have there place, but I would rather songs like, "One kiss at a time" and "Sex in the Summer" these are songs that keep it real. Ok, they all lead to that one thing! But, there is a lot more to it than the physical aspect of it all. It is about the state of mind that you may be in at a particular time. That may depend on the woman/man that you are with, or where you are in the relationship. Are you familiar with "SLOW LOVE"?The funny thing is, I have been humming that song all day!!. "Slow Love" is the kinda song that u play when u wanna get the booty. His approach is such that by the time you realize what he has said, the drawers are off". He gets right to the point without being so sugary. "Love is like peeing in your pants, everyone sees it but only you feel its warmth" |
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The synth bass is yucky.
The drum-program is horrid and dated. The lyrics are so-so,nothing we have not heard before. The synths sound tinny and plastic. "Adore" is a much,much better composition. I have listened to this cd with headphones,makes the tinny stuff sound mo' tinny. Not one of Prince's better albums in my opinion. The cover was atrocious also.looked like photoshop run amuck. | |
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wallysafford said: The synth bass is yucky.
The drum-program is horrid and dated. The lyrics are so-so,nothing we have not heard before. The synths sound tinny and plastic. "Adore" is a much,much better composition. I have listened to this cd with headphones,makes the tinny stuff sound mo' tinny. Not one of Prince's better albums in my opinion. The cover was atrocious also.looked like photoshop run amuck. U can look at it another way, Those love songs by the Force MD's and by Silk have the stupidiest lyrics and sometimes even tinnier music. Prince was not going for a groove here. He was looking to make a point. He wants this girl and he wants to take it one step at a time. "Adore" has a different sentiment. In that song he is praising his woman's beauty as well as her charm. [Edited 7/17/05 11:38am] "Love is like peeing in your pants, everyone sees it but only you feel its warmth" |
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shorttrini said: wallysafford said: The synth bass is yucky.
The drum-program is horrid and dated. The lyrics are so-so,nothing we have not heard before. The synths sound tinny and plastic. "Adore" is a much,much better composition. I have listened to this cd with headphones,makes the tinny stuff sound mo' tinny. Not one of Prince's better albums in my opinion. The cover was atrocious also.looked like photoshop run amuck. U can look at it another way, Those love songs by the Force MD's and by Silk have the stupidiest lyrics and sometimes even tinnier music. Prince was not going for a groove here. He was looking to make a point. He wants this girl and he wants to take it one step at a time. "Adore" has a different setiment. In that song he is praising his woman's beauty as well as her charm. valid points! | |
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shorttrini said: wallysafford said: The synth bass is yucky.
The drum-program is horrid and dated. The lyrics are so-so,nothing we have not heard before. The synths sound tinny and plastic. "Adore" is a much,much better composition. I have listened to this cd with headphones,makes the tinny stuff sound mo' tinny. Not one of Prince's better albums in my opinion. The cover was atrocious also.looked like photoshop run amuck. U can look at it another way, Those love songs by the Force MD's and by Silk have the stupidiest lyrics and sometimes even tinnier music. Prince was not going for a groove here. He was looking to make a point. He wants this girl and he wants to take it one step at a time. "Adore" has a different setiment. In that song he is praising his woman's beauty as well as her charm. Ok, I'm really offended now, and Jam & Lewis dissed! | |
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wallysafford said: laurarichardson said: "
Yes, it is god awful to produce a commericial CD when you just signed a new recording contract with a new record company. It would have been real smart to come out with something experimental. (LOL). No,what I said was-to my ears,it sounds awful when Prince makes commercial-sounding records that imitate Jodeci,R.Kelly and D'angelo records. Then again,nobody is supposed to have an opinion but You,right?(LOL) [Edited 7/14/05 17:38pm] ----- You can have opinion I just don't agree with you and on this one you are talking out of your ass in my opinion. Yes to you it sounds awful for Prince to make commercial--sounding records that imitate Jodeci, R.Kelly and D'Angelo. Well he ain't imitating those guys. In some cases they are imitating him. I am not even going to go into the R. Kelly nosense again. | |
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i wish i had a clear answer but it seems that its a case of a fav drum machine/sound module (must have been good presets) and a closed mind in the production dept.
Theres a lot of great songs on the album ruined (repeated listening) by that production. Copy and pastey is not the way to create authenticity. Its a lesson on how not to do it. Theres no medium/long reverb on anything. Makes you wonder if he is aware of obvious crap sounds. yeah, crap sounds. its nearly 10 years so lets not hope for musicology revisited with the clinical stanley knife. |
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swoonfed said: i have never heard such pap from so many regarding a peak-period work of art. all this whining about emancipation riddles me. have you people slapped on some headphones and actually listened (not partied to, not driven to, not cooked your dinner to)? i suspect not. admittedly, there are perhaps 4-8 'filler' songs of the midtempo variety. but i agree with prince if he in fact said leading up to it's release that it includes his strongest songs.
"slowly i pull your strap down/and touch you as if to heal./layer by layer/inch by inch/until your True Love is revealed". Therein lies the beauty of emancipation. Never before had prince given as much of his heart as he did on this project. He was at his most emotionally vulnerable/available and poured out the most sincere songs of his career. OneKissAtATime: the harmonies alone on this track are worth it. there is no posturing. there is no ego. d'angelo wouldn't know heart if it held his feet while he did sit ups. r'kelly? please. that guy's got no filter so 4 out of every 100 songs is listenable and not the work of a child. This is a mature track by an artist who knows every trick and trap and manages to side-step them all. TheProduction: all this complaining about emancipation leads me back to where i started. what are you people 'listening' to? Emancipation is the culmination of all that came before. all the hooks are there, though now subtlely tucked in the track. this is prince at his minimalist best. minimal? yep. every overdub Sounds like prince. his touch is everywhere. the heart is in the bass. the keys. the guitar. the vocals. the attention to detail and the lack of anything unnecessary fulfills Mile's assertion the Prince had, in fact, beCOME the next Duke Ellington. His use of dynamics on this album are unparalleled in modern r&b. it may be 'clean', but it's full-bodied and warm. there is no sense of that false, pristine bs that passes for today's this-came-with-my-computer-and-all-i-do-is-cut-and-paste-and-get-sounds-from-this-machine pop landscape. What constitutes a 'producer' these days is a slap in the face to all true 'sound' lovers. Emancipation is the work of a man at his most focused peak. so there. ----- Co-Sign Did you read the part about the production wallysafford? | |
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wallysafford said: Sooooo! maybe LauraRichardson is the one who don't know what she is talking about...hmmmmm.couldn't be,she is alway's right...
[Edited 7/15/05 12:46pm] ----- I am not always right but on this one I am on point. | |
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Novabreaker said: One of his worst songs up to the point of its release. Of course the successive years would see far worse to surface.
You know, before the mid-90s Prince just wasn't a guy who would release "One Kiss A Time" type of R&B fluff, his ballads were always very different and strange in myriad ways. We're probably used to this type of straightforward material now, but then hearing "Emancipation" made a lot of fans jump the ship. And it was exactly because of songs such as these. A lot of folks on the net absolutely loathed that stuff, if I remember correct. It just wasn't Prince anymore. I agree 100 %. Prince made a career out of not being your average talented r n b act, and OKAAT show him to be very competent, yet utterly conventional. It's not that it's a bad song... it's just that it's not up to the standard he set with songs like Adore. | |
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