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Reply #60 posted 07/06/05 7:01am

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SPOOKYGAS said:

Did anyone else watch Live8 and think Prince would have blown all the other 'performers' out of the water! Its so frustrating watching these events knowing that the man is miles better than the rest. Could he not have turned up ripped up the set and let the whole world know (as we all do as Org's) that he is the real deal. I dont understand why he refuses to play ball, any ideas?


not to come across as a naive optimist, but that wasn't exactly the point of live8.



Well said Frog...Live8 wasn't a PR 4 artist it was a PR 4 world debt... neutral
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Reply #61 posted 07/06/05 7:03am

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and because the Boom Town Rats are gonna release their greatest hits CD next week Thursday so Sir Bob Geldolf is happy smile
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Reply #62 posted 07/06/05 7:43am

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Puhchoolee said:

Sorry. Prince isn't socially or politically relevant, and hasn't been for decades.

I applaud the stuff he did during the Purple Rain era -- he constantly was donating really good seats to charities, as well as donating money to the "King Holiday" song and video effort (only real old-schoolers will remember that first dropping on BET with Donnie Simpson).

These days, his socially conscious rants seem limited to musing about Moors and Cinnamon Girls. Easy, shallow tripe that, again, has little real benefit socially or politically.

For him to have been a part of Live8 would have been inconsistent for him, for so many reasons (good and bad).


How is being one of the few artists to address the treatment of certain people after 9/11 irrelevant? he was both praised and criticized for the video? it made several headlines across the globe. that IS relevant. perhaps just not the content you would like him to address, but relevant nonetheless.
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Reply #63 posted 07/06/05 7:49am

Tiffypoo2004

excuse me for what i said about prince not caring i take that back i was drunk. biggrin
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Reply #64 posted 07/06/05 8:56am

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it seems strange that anyone would even think he'd perform for Live8.
anyone who calls themselves a fan of Prince and doesn't know how much charity work he is, was, and always has been involved with needs to....do some readin' or something.
duh
"not a fan" falloff yeah...ok
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Reply #65 posted 07/06/05 8:57am

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macca2002 said:

I have been a Prince fan since the early eighties and I was not surprised he did not play at Live 8. It seems to me that in the great scheme of things Prince feels that there are more important things in his life than using his time on a global concert.

Questions to ask !

How important is it to the 50000 people dying in Africa everyday ?

How important is it to the child who is waiting for his dinner at night when all his mother is doing is cooking a stone in pot a water to make it look that they have food and waiting for that child to go to sleep hungry ?

How important is it to the family who uses the leather off an old chair bolied in water as soup for their only meal of the day ??

Ask the 200000 at Hyde Park How important it is ?


I was there it was the mose emotional and greatest moment in my life so far at the age of 37 ?

I feel that a weekend of someones time to support this cause is nothing in the great scheme of things.

WHERE WERE YOU ! WHY WERE YOU NOT THERE !


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"not a fan" falloff yeah...ok
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Reply #66 posted 07/06/05 9:35am

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I always want to see Prince perform when i can, but I'm not surprised or upset he didn't.

As for Live8, the whole premise of 'bringing attention to' ... 'pressuring politicians to hear our voices... is idealistic, therefore flaud.
sad

The powers know the shit is going on, more than most of us will ever know. Why would they care about concert. They'll answer the 'why don't we give more question as they always do. blah blah blah

Why do this whole thing and not give a dime to the people. If they had charged $10 a head it would have helped some and if the freakin' acts had announced what they were giving. They would have been at least leading by example.
MTV's coverage was self serving and disjointed.

Imagine if Prince was jammin' and they went to VJ to ask their opinion about Africa? eek
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Reply #67 posted 07/06/05 10:29am

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I had hoped to get some ideas as to why Prince never played Live8 but after viewing the replies I am none the wiser. For those who took the time to actually answer the question I thank you for your input, for the vast majority who did not and who chose to use this thread as a soap box, get real! You are living in an alternative Universe if you think that events like Live8 will ever change the catastrophy that is Africa, indeed events like these are patronising, misguided and blatantly self serving. Do you honestly believe that Mr G W Bush and his gang will pay any heed to the demands of a bunch of millionaires and a public which has the attention span of a gnat?

The question I posed was genuine and was never the political question that some hijacked it for, your tactic was dispicable and cheap, perhaps the most dissapointing reply came from a so called Moderator, who had the audacity to make snide comments and innuendo and when asked to clarify the remarks refused and issued a warning not to take the remarks to task again! Not the remarks of a moderate if you ask me.
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Reply #68 posted 07/06/05 10:44am

jesusmarie

I would answer like Prince probably would :WE'RE TIRED OF YOU ALL38
The Live Aid in 1985 revealed to be corrupted.
Thousands of people for the african cause, okay, but what about ACTION and REALITY OF ACTS?
WHERE is the aid for Indonesia? Where is the aid for AIDS?
Why there's still homelesses in the so glorius America?
ILLUSIOn, Live Aid is ONLY ILLUSION… Pimp and circumstances...
[Edited 7/6/05 10:45am]
I Am LOVE and I want 2 SEE the Truth
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Reply #69 posted 07/06/05 10:45am

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SPOOKYGAS said:

Did anyone else watch Live8 and think Prince would have blown all the other 'performers' out of the water! Its so frustrating watching these events knowing that the man is miles better than the rest. Could he not have turned up ripped up the set and let the whole world know (as we all do as Org's) that he is the real deal. I dont understand why he refuses to play ball, any ideas?

Because he had better things to do than waste time hijacking a so-called "political" event to show how well he can play music...

Neversin.
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Reply #70 posted 07/06/05 11:07am

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macca2002 said:

I have been a Prince fan since the early eighties and I was not surprised he did not play at Live 8. It seems to me that in the great scheme of things Prince feels that there are more important things in his life than using his time on a global concert.

And there are...

Ask the 200000 at Hyde Park How important it is ?

Obviously not important enough since they're that pathetic that they need a fucking concert to be aware of what's going on in the world...
If those 200000 lazy fucks actually went to Africa to make a change instead of standing at Hyde Park like a bunch of retards listening to some product standing on a stage trying to sell more records then the ball could actually be rolling for a change...
In a month they'll all be going on with their lives with Africa and world debt still in the shithole it is... Nothing new and it has always been like that, world debt and Africa are only important as long as bystanders can be entertained at their expense...

WHERE WERE YOU ! WHY WERE YOU NOT THERE !

Because there are more important things to do than waste time at some useless concert that's only "relevant" for about a week...

Neversin.
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Reply #71 posted 07/06/05 11:29am

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prettymansson said:

drcoldchoke said:

he isnt as good as any of the people the performed on Live 8 any more, I really feel he's lost it nowdays.


this must be a joke right ???
did u see the musicology tour...? he could've performed the acoustic set and blown everybody off the stage... eek

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Reply #72 posted 07/06/05 11:32am

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hemakesmecream said:

prettymansson said:



this must be a joke right ???
did u see the musicology tour...? he could've performed the acoustic set and blown everybody off the stage... eek

AMEN!!!!!


thank u soul mama !!! biggrin
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Reply #73 posted 07/06/05 11:58am

mkaye8

Live 8 was a joke. There were no good bands playing. It was a huge publicity stunt for everyone involved. I mean what kind of benefit show gives out $15,000 gift bags to each performer. They could have used that money alone to spread awareness.. I am glad Prince stays away from socials like this one.
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Reply #74 posted 07/06/05 5:50pm

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dealodelandron said:

Puhchoolee said:

Sorry. Prince isn't socially or politically relevant, and hasn't been for decades.

I applaud the stuff he did during the Purple Rain era -- he constantly was donating really good seats to charities, as well as donating money to the "King Holiday" song and video effort (only real old-schoolers will remember that first dropping on BET with Donnie Simpson).

These days, his socially conscious rants seem limited to musing about Moors and Cinnamon Girls. Easy, shallow tripe that, again, has little real benefit socially or politically.

For him to have been a part of Live8 would have been inconsistent for him, for so many reasons (good and bad).


How is being one of the few artists to address the treatment of certain people after 9/11 irrelevant? he was both praised and criticized for the video? it made several headlines across the globe. that IS relevant. perhaps just not the content you would like him to address, but relevant nonetheless.


Is he one of the "few" artists to address 9/11 and Arab-based racism? Really? hmmm I disagree. The CG video was clumsy and came off as a cry for attention.

The point remains that Prince has a long history against doing group appearances. He prefers to dictate the terms of his participation. People decry that kind of stance as egoism run amok for a reason.
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Reply #75 posted 07/06/05 7:04pm

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Tiffypoo2004 said:

once again prince's doesnt give a rats ass about starving africans to him they are just stinky crusty ass people:-P lol
[Edited 7/5/05 19:47pm]


I just think that when people say this sort of thing and call people names like this that they're speaking for THEMSELVES!
(In addition, I'm sure there are many reasons why a person would opt not to participate in this sort of thing and I wouldn't DARE presume to know why Prince didn't!)
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Reply #76 posted 07/06/05 7:11pm

Tiffypoo2004

NewPowerSista said:

Tiffypoo2004 said:

once again prince's doesnt give a rats ass about starving africans to him they are just stinky crusty ass people:-P lol
[Edited 7/5/05 19:47pm]


I just think that when people say this sort of thing and call people names like this that they're speaking for THEMSELVES!
(In addition, I'm sure there are many reasons why a person would opt not to participate in this sort of thing and I wouldn't DARE presume to know why Prince didn't!)


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Reply #77 posted 07/07/05 12:27am

jbell

"Why did he not ....."


most people dont give a fat rats' ass about prince's music. It aint 1985

GET OUT OF YOUR PURPLE BUBBLE SOMETIME! lol
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Reply #78 posted 07/07/05 3:11am

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[flame snipped. play nice or log off. no no no! - anx]
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Reply #79 posted 07/07/05 4:23am

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If those 200000 lazy fucks actually went to Africa to make a change instead of standing at Hyde Park like a bunch of retards...


Yup.
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Reply #80 posted 07/07/05 5:00am

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mkaye8 said:

Live 8 was a joke. There were no good bands playing.


confuse

U2,Pink Floyd,Annie Lennox,Stevie Wonder and many others who particpated are not exactly second-rate artists.
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Reply #81 posted 07/07/05 5:44am

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Puhchoolee said:

dealodelandron said:



How is being one of the few artists to address the treatment of certain people after 9/11 irrelevant? he was both praised and criticized for the video? it made several headlines across the globe. that IS relevant. perhaps just not the content you would like him to address, but relevant nonetheless.


Is he one of the "few" artists to address 9/11 and Arab-based racism? Really? hmmm I disagree. The CG video was clumsy and came off as a cry for attention.

The point remains that Prince has a long history against doing group appearances. He prefers to dictate the terms of his participation. People decry that kind of stance as egoism run amok for a reason.


There were not a lot of artists speaking out against racism and discrimination directed towards Arabs. Mind you that is a relative term. Do you honestly feel that musicians, especially musicians in the States, did a whole lot to try and speak out against that in their music? I didn't say he was the only. And certainly one of the most high profile artists. Especially after the Dixie Chicks spoke out against Bush. After that, hardly anyone in the spotlight said shit about anything. He had the world captivated at the time when he released this due to the musicology tour and he still put it out. You may find it clumsy and perceive it as a cry for attention, but can you deny that it actually did get a lot of attention? If that was Prince's sole concern, he could have gone in so many other directions.

I am full aware of him not taking part in a lot of group appearances. Can you really ignore that certain artists just aren't comfortable in certain environments? Why should he have to participate in an event just because it is high profile? The people that organize those often have their own agenda as well. Prince also has a long history of donating his money and performing for charities with little attention from the media. Does that make it any less worthy of praise?

Take the 'We are the World/USA for Africa' project...while many dismissed him for not singing with all those other artists, he did contribute a song. While they spent tens of thousands of dollars just to feed all the participating artists during the recording session, dude had something like a ham and cheese sandwhich, a warm soda and chips.
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Reply #82 posted 07/07/05 5:49am

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Handclapsfingasnapz said:


mmmmm....it's more or less a charity event, not too much on the political side of things.

as for p not showing up: good on 'im. he didn't have to, nor was he obligated to. what would be the point in doing so? it's best to do charitable works outta the public eye, imo.


I believe Prince prefers to do it that way, too.



yeah but sometimes you have to make noise on a issue....you can't just sit in the background all the time.
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Reply #83 posted 07/07/05 7:41am

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"I tried to tell the man I did not want to sing
But I gladly do a song instead
He said OK and everything was cool
Til the camera tried to get in my bed"

I think he has some baggage with Bob Geldof. It's a shame, songs like Dear Mr Man and Sign O the Times show an intelligent social compassion, as does the Love4OneAnother charity. In an interview promting ATWIAD in 85 Prince said he didn't participate in We Are the World as he probably would have "clammed up" with all those "other great performers there." That's fair. He did donate 4 The Tears in Your Eyes to the album and Sheila E sang on the single.

He could've performed Live8, I'm disappointed he didn't. Even a one man acoustic 10 minutes would have been good.
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Reply #84 posted 07/07/05 8:01am

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If only he had played the show and performed Starfish & Coffee. With a grand NPG makeover, which includes, horns galore, and a crazy solo drums.

Perform the 1 song. Then walk off stage in classic Prince fashion. ^-^
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Reply #85 posted 07/07/05 9:49am

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SPOOKYGAS said:

Did anyone else watch Live8 and think Prince would have blown all the other 'performers' out of the water! Its so frustrating watching these events knowing that the man is miles better than the rest. Could he not have turned up ripped up the set and let the whole world know (as we all do as Org's) that he is the real deal. I dont understand why he refuses to play ball, any ideas?


I don't know what makes you think that Prince is miles better than the rest. He is not. To say so is actually quite arrogant. He is still up there with the best, but it's not like there is no one as good as him - there are some sharp bands out there.

Stop worshipping and open your heart and ears smile

And - as has been stated above many times - this wasn`t the reason for Live8 anyway.

By the way, isn`t it sad how many people are so cynical about these events, and that no good will come out of it, politicians will ignore it, most bands do it as PR, etc. So, how do YOU make a difference then? It IS important to stand up - don`t be afraid, don`t say it makes no difference anyway.
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Reply #86 posted 07/07/05 9:55am

Universaluv

Just like everyone here, Prince has the option to contribute and participate in whatever charities he wants to. I'm sure he has his reasons and he doesn't owe anyone an explanation for them.

If this particular cause is close to your heart, then do something.
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Reply #87 posted 07/07/05 10:30am

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Krid said:

SPOOKYGAS said:

Did anyone else watch Live8 and think Prince would have blown all the other 'performers' out of the water! Its so frustrating watching these events knowing that the man is miles better than the rest. Could he not have turned up ripped up the set and let the whole world know (as we all do as Org's) that he is the real deal. I dont understand why he refuses to play ball, any ideas?


I don't know what makes you think that Prince is miles better than the rest. He is not. To say so is actually quite arrogant. He is still up there with the best, but it's not like there is no one as good as him - there are some sharp bands out there.

Stop worshipping and open your heart and ears smile

Are you telling me that you know my mind better than me? Okay I submit to your line of logic so now please tell me who I think is better than Prince!!

Is expressing your opinion considered arrogant? If so what would you call imposing ones own thoughts on others?
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Reply #88 posted 07/07/05 11:40am

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macca2002 said:

I have been a Prince fan since the early eighties and I was not surprised he did not play at Live 8. It seems to me that in the great scheme of things Prince feels that there are more important things in his life than using his time on a global concert.

Questions to ask !

How important is it to the 50000 people dying in Africa everyday ?

How important is it to the child who is waiting for his dinner at night when all his mother is doing is cooking a stone in pot a water to make it look that they have food and waiting for that child to go to sleep hungry ?

How important is it to the family who uses the leather off an old chair bolied in water as soup for their only meal of the day ??

Ask the 200000 at Hyde Park How important it is ?


I was there it was the mose emotional and greatest moment in my life so far at the age of 37 ?

I feel that a weekend of someones time to support this cause is nothing in the great scheme of things.

WHERE WERE YOU ! WHY WERE YOU NOT THERE !

First of all, don't get so excited for Live8 concert. IT DIDN'T RAISE ANY FUCKING MONEY LIKE IT'S PREDECESSOR LIVE AID! Me personally I think it was kind of worthless. Yea it raised awareness, but what good is awareness without money. I bet them ppl in Africa are like "Well now that they're 'aware' of what's going on (like it hasn't been all over the news and special programs already) where the hell is the money?!!"
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Reply #89 posted 07/07/05 12:59pm

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First of all, don't get so excited for Live8 concert. IT DIDN'T RAISE ANY FUCKING MONEY LIKE IT'S PREDECESSOR LIVE AID! Me personally I think it was kind of worthless. Yea it raised awareness, but what good is awareness without money. I bet them ppl in Africa are like "Well now that they're 'aware' of what's going on (like it hasn't been all over the news and special programs already) where the hell is the money?!!"

You missed the point then.

It will have been worthless if the G8 leaders avoid taking decisions on debt, climate, trade and arms sales hat lead to chances for greater prosperity for people of Africa.
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