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Thread started 06/27/05 2:29am

3121

Be honest

Ok, it is a pretty well documented fact that the tracks 'Kiss' and 'when Doves Cry' have no bass part/line. However, before visting this site and learning more about these compositions, i was never aware of this fact. Did it always register with u that these songs were completely stripped of any bass or was u told?
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Reply #1 posted 06/27/05 3:09am

Krystal666

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3121 said:

Ok, it is a pretty well documented fact that the tracks 'Kiss' and 'when Doves Cry' have no bass part/line. However, before visting this site and learning more about these compositions, i was never aware of this fact. Did it always register with u that these songs were completely stripped of any bass or was u told?


It never registered with me. But I'm not a musician so I guess I wouldn't recognize something like that in the first place. But I just knew they sounded different. biggrin
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Reply #2 posted 06/27/05 3:14am

PANDURITO

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shake
I don't need traditional instruments to enjoy a song.
If it sounds good I don't care if they're real or fake or the sound of the atom splitting. cool
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Reply #3 posted 06/27/05 7:30am

destinyismine

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I really didn't notice
How can I live 4 love? I'm calling!!!
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Reply #4 posted 06/27/05 7:35am

Prettyman19

I noticed but when a song is good it's good, no matter what instruments are there or not.
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Reply #5 posted 06/27/05 7:48am

Nikki23

I never noticed
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Reply #6 posted 06/27/05 7:55am

Handclapsfinga
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i knew.
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Reply #7 posted 06/27/05 8:31am

purplecam

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I knew there was something different about those songs but I couldn't pinpoint it. Like what y'all said, if the song is hot, it's hot and they are still hot after 20 years, give and take.
I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that
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Reply #8 posted 06/27/05 8:39am

BorisFishpaw

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Yes I noticed, but not straight away.

Another one is Partyman. It does have a 'bass line' but it's not played on a
bass! It's actually Prince singing it (bom, ba-bom, bom, bom... etc) then
resampled!
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Reply #9 posted 06/27/05 1:30pm

effs

I Knew
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Reply #10 posted 06/27/05 1:33pm

Snap

i was surprised ppl made a big deal over it
i didn't know music had to follow a formula to be a hit shrug
at least "When Doves Cry" proved 'em wrong, eh
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Reply #11 posted 06/27/05 2:24pm

Universaluv

Kiss was obvious. WDC, didn't catch it till I read about it not long after it came out.
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Reply #12 posted 06/27/05 2:30pm

AsianBoi777

I have to be high when I listen to Prince, so I hear all sorts of shit that isn't supposed to be there. shrug
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Reply #13 posted 06/27/05 2:53pm

PurpleKnight

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It was always obvious.
The world is a comedy for those who think and a tragedy for those who feel.

"You still wanna take me to prison...just because I won't trade humanity for patriotism."
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Reply #14 posted 06/27/05 3:03pm

nayroo2002

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I think "When Doves Cry" was hyped as a "bass-less" song, so I don't really understand the significance of that notion. It is a badass song with or without!!!
"Kiss" is a basic 12 bar blues progression, so what else are you going to do with it? Leave the bass out and fill the void with a lotta high-hat trickery. The (extended version) goes off on a wonderful tangent, though, with a locked-in, bounce-on-the-riff bassline. Part two is a perfect compliment to the album version.

Bring back the "(EXTENDED VERSION)"

please?
"Whatever skin we're in
we all need 2 b friends"
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Reply #15 posted 06/27/05 3:09pm

Vital

sorry. When I hear a song I judge it by the sound effect. No clue to any instruments used or thought about individual instruments. Nice song tho.
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Reply #16 posted 06/27/05 4:55pm

doctamario

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I don't notice things like that.
Don't hurt me, I'm a newb. I'm supposed to be stupid.
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Reply #17 posted 06/27/05 4:57pm

neontelephone

3121 said:

Ok, it is a pretty well documented fact that the tracks 'Kiss' and 'when Doves Cry' have no bass part/line. However, before visting this site and learning more about these compositions, i was never aware of this fact. Did it always register with u that these songs were completely stripped of any bass or was u told?

did not bother me
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Reply #18 posted 06/28/05 2:10am

susannah

I knew because i started playing bass about the same time i was gettting into Prince, so I was paying attention to every bass line i heard. or not as the case may be....

According to one of his many biographies, he was in the studio recording it one night with Mark, Bobby and Matt, and he stayed up all night after they went home, taking the bass out and generally doctoring it for the better. He played it to the guys the next morning who were shocked but in agreement- it worked. I think Brown Mark forgave him...
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Reply #19 posted 06/28/05 2:11am

susannah

I was talking about Doves btw!
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Reply #20 posted 06/28/05 2:15am

Moonwalkbjrain

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kiss doesn't have a bass?!?!!!

damn..i'm slow sad
Yesterday is dead...tomorrow hasnt arrived yet....i have just ONE day...
...And i'm gonna be groovy in it!
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Reply #21 posted 06/28/05 3:05am

3121

i agree with what many of u say - a song doesnt have to follow formula to be good. however, that was nevr the issue raised by me. i was just asking if u noticed it upon hearing it or were u made aware by being told/reading it. thanks for the replies
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