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Does Prince embrace Africa Is Prince popular in Africa? Has he ever gone into the heart of Africa, beyond Eygpt. So whats the story with P and Africa. ofcourse I say this cause Mike is popular in Africa, but I think Bono has been to Africa more than P. | |
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I'd like to know the same. Cool question. | |
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In africa most radio stations play real old songs which have nothing to do with who is popular at the moment in the US or anything like that.
So most of the ppl who r interested in music get it on thier own. I know my friend used to get all the music from his brother who would go to the UK. of Course MJ is known world over but its not like they play MJ on radio its just ppl r aware he is a big star. Alot of ppl listen to rumba music which is popular specially with ppl who r less educated. But when i was living there they had this black music video show. This is the only video show they had for several yrs and i was able to get most of prince music videos from it and on that show they also had alot of news of prince back then. However in south africa its quite different. I was able to catch the south african radio in my country and they play most of the stuff which we have in the us. and its not just r&b they play most of the rock stuff too. Bono might be goin to Africa alot but i dont think many ppl know his music there. To sum it up. There is no one who gets radio play. Not MJ or prince or anyone else. So no one has massive following. lilgish said: Is Prince popular in Africa? Has he ever gone into the heart of Africa, beyond Eygpt. So whats the story with P and Africa. ofcourse I say this cause Mike is popular in Africa, but I think Bono has been to Africa more than P. [Edited 6/5/05 20:13pm] |
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Prince is a very small man. I doubt he could embrace a continent, even one as small as Australia. | |
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violetorgangrinder said: Prince is a very small man. I doubt he could embrace a continent, even one as small as Australia.
 if the ego of his "lustier twin" prevails....
he might give it a try  Death is my friend its useless to pretend. Death can find anyone, anywhere, anytime, can give or take as the Creator assigns. whether ostracized or embraced i'm here to tell you Death can take me any place! | |
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sataninas said: I'm more known in Africa as him.
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lilgish said: sataninas said: I'm more known in Africa as him.
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He isn't too popular in South Africa. That's all I know. | |
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I lived in West-Africa during the 80's, and people did not care much about him. I returned there in the 90's and still he was largely ignored. But you have to realize that Africa is a completely different place, it's not that people have the money to hang out at record store and buy CD. Most of the music circulates through tapes which is plaguing the business of local artists. And of course, Africans are into their own styles of music which are mostly ignored in Europe and the US. In Western Africa it's soukous from congo, Mbalax from Senegal, Mandingue music form Mali... And reggae is hughe everywhere, Bob marley is somekind of god and Alpha Blondy used to be his prophet. Now Funk is also loved, but people think more of James Brown or Fela Kuti and of course...MJ. Now, I've heard that rap is becoming popular, but I have been away too long to say. | |
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julien said: I lived in West-Africa during the 80's, and people did not care much about him. I returned there in the 90's and still he was largely ignored. But you have to realize that Africa is a completely different place, it's not that people have the money to hang out at record store and buy CD. Most of the music circulates through tapes which is plaguing the business of local artists. And of course, Africans are into their own styles of music which are mostly ignored in Europe and the US. In Western Africa it's soukous from congo, Mbalax from Senegal, Mandingue music form Mali... And reggae is hughe everywhere, Bob marley is somekind of god and Alpha Blondy used to be his prophet. Now Funk is also loved, but people think more of James Brown or Fela Kuti and of course...MJ. Now, I've heard that rap is becoming popular, but I have been away too long to say.
 I would have to agree with you. Most of friends from Africa don't vibe with Prince at all b/c they feel that he is too much of a freak. Whereas, they would have more respect for Rick James than him. | |
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Growing up in southern and eastern africa although i am not black i dont know anyone who even knows who the fuck is Rick James. Most ppl know only the big stars. They only know the big stars but the problem is the radio DJs work more as broadcasters rather then knowing a shit about music. What happens is that you get old crap being plyed yr over year so the play list is never updated.
So since Prince is an international star ppl know about him. But most college goin ppl get thier music from the UK since most of the time you have friends goin to UK. US is too far. I didnt know about rick james back in africa. And its true most african listen to local music but these are mostly ppl who r less educated and poorer. Hotlegs said: julien said: I lived in West-Africa during the 80's, and people did not care much about him. I returned there in the 90's and still he was largely ignored. But you have to realize that Africa is a completely different place, it's not that people have the money to hang out at record store and buy CD. Most of the music circulates through tapes which is plaguing the business of local artists. And of course, Africans are into their own styles of music which are mostly ignored in Europe and the US. In Western Africa it's soukous from congo, Mbalax from Senegal, Mandingue music form Mali... And reggae is hughe everywhere, Bob marley is somekind of god and Alpha Blondy used to be his prophet. Now Funk is also loved, but people think more of James Brown or Fela Kuti and of course...MJ. Now, I've heard that rap is becoming popular, but I have been away too long to say.
I would have to agree with you. Most of friends from Africa don't vibe with Prince at all b/c they feel that he is too much of a freak. Whereas, they would have more respect for Rick James than him. |
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asg said:[quote]Growing up in southern and eastern africa although i am not black.[quote]
So your must consider yourself a White Arab huh? Most of the Africans People that I deal with are from West , South and Eastern African and consider themselves Black. Where the fuck you get off thinking that you can speak for all of Africa when you want to deny any non-white blood that could be running through your veins  . We're all from mixed backgrounds and may be mixed with Black. For example, I am Irish, Scottish, Native American, and African.
From your post, you indicated that you are from the UK. It figures. Your thinking on race and music are biased and unethical and you need to check that bullshit at the door b/c we are about racial unification at the Org.  [Edited 6/6/05 23:36pm] | |
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Hotlegs said:[quote]asg said:[quote]Growing up in southern and eastern africa although i am not black. So your must consider yourself a White Arab huh? Most of the Africans People that I deal with are from West , South and Eastern African and consider themselves Black. Where the fuck you get off thinking that you can speak for all of Africa when you want to deny any non-white blood that could be running through your veins . We're all from mixed backgrounds and may be mixed with Black. For example, I am Irish, Scottish, Native American, and African.
From your post, you indicated that you are from the UK. It figures. Your thinking on race and music are biased and unethical and you need to check that bullshit at the door b/c we are about racial unification at the Org.
[Edited 6/6/05 23:36pm] i was thinking that he/she was a bit out of line too. | |
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monte said:[quote]Hotlegs said:[quote] asg said: Growing up in southern and eastern africa although i am not black.
So your must consider yourself a White Arab huh? Most of the Africans People that I deal with are from West , South and Eastern African and consider themselves Black. Where the fuck you get off thinking that you can speak for all of Africa when you want to deny any non-white blood that could be running through your veins . We're all from mixed backgrounds and may be mixed with Black. For example, I am Irish, Scottish, Native American, and African.
From your post, you indicated that you are from the UK. It figures. Your thinking on race and music are biased and unethical and you need to check that bullshit at the door b/c we are about racial unification at the Org.
[Edited 6/6/05 23:36pm] i was thinking that he/she was a bit out of line too.  Thanks for confirming what I saw. | |
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I am Indian but i grew up in africa I am not from UK ok. but u can go to an african chat group and u be surprised how little ppl know of rick james.
Generally most of the ppl in africa travel to europe alot more then US. There r no record stores and most ppl get thier music when they go out to europe. Hotlegs said:[quote]asg said:[quote]Growing up in southern and eastern africa although i am not black. So your must consider yourself a White Arab huh? Most of the Africans People that I deal with are from West , South and Eastern African and consider themselves Black. Where the fuck you get off thinking that you can speak for all of Africa when you want to deny any non-white blood that could be running through your veins . We're all from mixed backgrounds and may be mixed with Black. For example, I am Irish, Scottish, Native American, and African.
From your post, you indicated that you are from the UK. It figures. Your thinking on race and music are biased and unethical and you need to check that bullshit at the door b/c we are about racial unification at the Org.
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asg said:[quote]I am Indian but i grew up in africa I am not from UK ok. but u can go to an african chat group and u be surprised how little ppl know of rick james.
Generally most of the ppl in africa travel to europe alot more then US. There r no record stores and most ppl get thier music when they go out to europe. Hotlegs said:[quote] asg said: Growing up in southern and eastern africa although i am not black.
So your must consider yourself a White Arab huh? Most of the Africans People that I deal with are from West , South and Eastern African and consider themselves Black. Where the fuck you get off thinking that you can speak for all of Africa when you want to deny any non-white blood that could be running through your veins . We're all from mixed backgrounds and may be mixed with Black. For example, I am Irish, Scottish, Native American, and African.
From your post, you indicated that you are from the UK. It figures. Your thinking on race and music are biased and unethical and you need to check that bullshit at the door b/c we are about racial unification at the Org.
[Edited 6/6/05 23:36pm]  So technically, your not African ok. That explains why you are in the dark. I knew it all along. Trust me, I have friends from India and I know that alot of music from the US their not exposed to. So what type of Indian are you? Are you Punjabi? Where exactly would your family fit in the Caste System?[Edited 6/7/05 1:33am] | |
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I grew up in Africa. I have lived in South Africa as well as Zimbabwe, Zambia and Kenya.
The South African music scene is pretty commercial these days. A lot of the big bands tour in SA. The radio stations are full of the pap that we call pop and the usual suspects are all there dancing their crap through the charts. However, there is also a lot of home grown talent. Some of it very good and some of it, just like over here, really crap. Some of it more traditional, some of it unashamedly commercial. Also, just as over here, Prince used to be pretty big out there. During the 80's when MJ ruled, Prince was being tipped to take his crown... er... just like over here. In Zambia I was able to buy every single Prince album from Dirty Mind up to TGE, after which I left. Around the early 90's commercial radio started to take off in the capital and once that took off in came the flood of commercial, Euro/US pop. Shit loads of R & B too. In lusaka there are clubs for all categories. Ive been to drum & bass clubs, hard house, R&B, rock, traditional rhumba... the lot. Zimbabwe was even more commercial than Zambia was back in the 90's. Zimbabwe fed from South Africa and so whatever was "cool" and "hip" in SA also transfered to Zim. Unfortunately the current state of affairs in Zim has probably rendered the commercial music scene a second runner to politics and hunger. The real roots of music in sub-sahara Africa (outside of SA) is rhumba. Not in the South American sense but in a very African sense. That is the life blood of teh real African's musical taste. The most commercial country in terms of Rhumba is probably Camaroon. Having the French influence, Camaroon has a slightly different take on the commercial imported music scene. U2 are very well known in Africa as a whole. Shit man, theyre known all over the world. South Africa has a massive following of U2. Their Atomic Bomb album was a number one hit out there for ages... And as for Prince, like everywhere else, he once was, but is all but forgotten. | |
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where did u get all his albums in lusaka i dont know any place where they sold prince stuff. Lusaka is such a small place i bet i must have seen u somewhere.
I left just b4 mid 90s thats when the radio started inproving i guess. I was back there in dec 2004 well i didnt really listen to radio so i dont know about now. I know zims used to be like south africa they had record stores with everything Jon said: I grew up in Africa. I have lived in South Africa as well as Zimbabwe, Zambia and Kenya.
The South African music scene is pretty commercial these days. A lot of the big bands tour in SA. The radio stations are full of the pap that we call pop and the usual suspects are all there dancing their crap through the charts. However, there is also a lot of home grown talent. Some of it very good and some of it, just like over here, really crap. Some of it more traditional, some of it unashamedly commercial. Also, just as over here, Prince used to be pretty big out there. During the 80's when MJ ruled, Prince was being tipped to take his crown... er... just like over here. In Zambia I was able to buy every single Prince album from Dirty Mind up to TGE, after which I left. Around the early 90's commercial radio started to take off in the capital and once that took off in came the flood of commercial, Euro/US pop. Shit loads of R & B too. In lusaka there are clubs for all categories. Ive been to drum & bass clubs, hard house, R&B, rock, traditional rhumba... the lot. Zimbabwe was even more commercial than Zambia was back in the 90's. Zimbabwe fed from South Africa and so whatever was "cool" and "hip" in SA also transfered to Zim. Unfortunately the current state of affairs in Zim has probably rendered the commercial music scene a second runner to politics and hunger. The real roots of music in sub-sahara Africa (outside of SA) is rhumba. Not in the South American sense but in a very African sense. That is the life blood of teh real African's musical taste. The most commercial country in terms of Rhumba is probably Camaroon. Having the French influence, Camaroon has a slightly different take on the commercial imported music scene. U2 are very well known in Africa as a whole. Shit man, theyre known all over the world. South Africa has a massive following of U2. Their Atomic Bomb album was a number one hit out there for ages... And as for Prince, like everywhere else, he once was, but is all but forgotten. |
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asg said: where did u get all his albums in lusaka i dont know any place where they sold prince stuff. Lusaka is such a small place i bet i must have seen u somewhere.
I left just b4 mid 90s thats when the radio started inproving i guess. I was back there in dec 2004 well i didnt really listen to radio so i dont know about now. I know zims used to be like south africa they had record stores with everything There is (or was) a shop in Northmead above what I think was a hairdressers or a beauty sallon. CD's and sun glasses. Thats all they sold, but Prince was never short stacked. There is/was also a big music shop that opened in Kabulonga just behind the supermarket. But I dont recall any Prince stuff in there. I left Zambia in 97. Ive been back a couple of times since, and am actually going again in September. Ive got a mate working in Luangwa Valley with a house on a lagoon. So thats my plan for this years holiday... I'll probably only stay in Lusaka a few days to catch up with mates etc... Well, if you left mid nineties, then we have probably seen each other at some point. Gringo's? Petes Steakhouse? where was your Friday/ Saturday piss up? Before lusaka I was in Chingola for about 15 years... Anyway, we digress... Who are you? | |
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Novabreaker said: He isn't too popular in South Africa. That's all I know.
I disagree that Prince isn't popular in South Africa. Currently, the Hits CD set is being advertised on TV almost every day as a sale. Also, when Prince released Musicology, it got a lot of airtime. It was even used as a background track on Goodhope FM's (a popular station). Plus, you can always here old school songs. I hear Prince much more on the radio compared to when I used to live in the USA in the 80's. | |
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I know a lot of Africans here in France who love Prince. | |
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Hotlegs said: From your post, you indicated that you are from the UK. It figures. Your thinking on race and music are biased and unethical and you need to check that bullshit at the door b/c we are about racial unification at the Org.
Can you just clarify that this isn't meant to be a comment on people from the UK? Thks. | |
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Hotlegs said: asg said: I am Indian but i grew up in africa I am not from UK ok. but u can go to an african chat group and u be surprised how little ppl know of rick james.
Generally most of the ppl in africa travel to europe alot more then US. There r no record stores and most ppl get thier music when they go out to europe. So technically, your not African ok. That explains why you are in the dark. I knew it all along. Trust me, I have friends from India and I know that alot of music from the US their not exposed to. So what type of Indian are you? Are you Punjabi? Where exactly would your family fit in the Caste System?
[Edited 6/7/05 1:33am] What relevence does the state he/she his family originates from in India or his caste have to do with anything?
I think there's some unchecked aggression here which is unnecessary. | |
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Ppl might not want 2 hear this, but over the years I've been shocked at 'racial' tension here @ the org. Yes, it's positive to reason about everything, but if we check out the spirit of Prince's music, doesn't it advocate 1ness, unity and love?
I do not deny that Prince himself could be questioned for playing the 'race' card. I cannot help it ya'll, but TRC plays both sides. It advocates 1ness, but at the same time, if you really look deeply in2 it, Prince is being slightly exclusive. Ask me if U don't dig this. | |
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Hotlegs said:[quote]asg said:[quote]Growing up in southern and eastern africa although i am not black. So your must consider yourself a White Arab huh? Most of the Africans People that I deal with are from West , South and Eastern African and consider themselves Black. Where the fuck you get off thinking that you can speak for all of Africa when you want to deny any non-white blood that could be running through your veins . We're all from mixed backgrounds and may be mixed with Black. For example, I am Irish, Scottish, Native American, and African.
From your post, you indicated that you are from the UK. It figures. Your thinking on race and music are biased and unethical and you need to check that bullshit at the door b/c we are about racial unification at the Org.
[Edited 6/6/05 23:36pm] Why does anyone have to consider themselves a color? I think your attitude is every bit as wack as the people you are criticizing. I've never met a REAL African who gets as hung up on race. | |
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I thought this was asking about if prince has a spiritual connection to africa or something along those lines?
it seems soo many african american entertainers go to africa to embrace their lineage..... but then, prince doesnt "live in the past" so he probably doesnt give a shit.... i hate that whole anti-history bullshit prince uses in regards to his work....."been there, done that".."past is past" bullshit..yet every tour is a rehash of all his old hits...
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