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Reply #60 posted 06/04/05 7:57am

sosgemini

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PSYMUN said:[quote]

MetroArea said:

The band never "officially" had a name. That it, it was never referenced as having a name through out the tours they played.


LISTEN 2 BEUTIFUL NITE ON THE SOTT ALBUM. SURE HE SEZ "REVOLUTION BREAK IT WAY DOWN LOW"



that *is* the revolution.....ie, w/ wendy and lisa...it was recorded before they broke up.....


what im curious about is,

1) is this thread titled I have a problem (ie, issue) with The Revolution Band or I have a problem (trying to figure out something about) The Revolution band?

because...

2) Why do people seem to have such a personal hate for The Revolution? And in particular Wendy & Lisa.....I just dont get it...I loath Tony M and his coherts but I dont waste my energy pontificating on it.....so, if anyone would like to help me understand why you feel compelled to spew against them im all ears...
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Reply #61 posted 06/06/05 4:05pm

Anxiety

PSYMUN said:

LISTEN 2 BEUTIFUL NITE ON THE SOTT ALBUM. SURE HE SEZ "REVOLUTION BREAK IT WAY DOWN LOW"


that's cuz that song was recorded live with the revolution in '86, back before they broke up.
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Reply #62 posted 06/06/05 4:28pm

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sosgemini said:[quote]

PSYMUN said:

MetroArea said:

The band never "officially" had a name. That it, it was never referenced as having a name through out the tours they played.


LISTEN 2 BEUTIFUL NITE ON THE SOTT ALBUM. SURE HE SEZ "REVOLUTION BREAK IT WAY DOWN LOW"



that *is* the revolution.....ie, w/ wendy and lisa...it was recorded before they broke up.....


what im curious about is,

1) is this thread titled I have a problem (ie, issue) with The Revolution Band or I have a problem (trying to figure out something about) The Revolution band?

because...

2) Why do people seem to have such a personal hate for The Revolution? And in particular Wendy & Lisa.....I just dont get it...I loath Tony M and his coherts but I dont waste my energy pontificating on it.....so, if anyone would like to help me understand why you feel compelled to spew against them im all ears...



It's just backlash for all of the praise they get on this site. I'm more interested in how those that claim to be above such bashing still manage to find a way to take sly jabs at the ones they don't like. wink It's all the same.
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Reply #63 posted 06/06/05 4:32pm

DorothyParkerW
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sosgemini said:[quote]

PSYMUN said:

MetroArea said:

The band never "officially" had a name. That it, it was never referenced as having a name through out the tours they played.


LISTEN 2 BEUTIFUL NITE ON THE SOTT ALBUM. SURE HE SEZ "REVOLUTION BREAK IT WAY DOWN LOW"



that *is* the revolution.....ie, w/ wendy and lisa...it was recorded before they broke up.....


what im curious about is,

1) is this thread titled I have a problem (ie, issue) with The Revolution Band or I have a problem (trying to figure out something about) The Revolution band?

because...

2) Why do people seem to have such a personal hate for The Revolution? And in particular Wendy & Lisa.....I just dont get it...I loath Tony M and his coherts but I dont waste my energy pontificating on it.....so, if anyone would like to help me understand why you feel compelled to spew against them im all ears...



I don't think people loathe the Revolution per se, I just think some of us, myself included, feel that the Revolution gets a little too much praise, while other musicians that were just as vital or more vital to Prince's sound are overlooked and or not considered at all. The other musicians are often never mentioned because they weren't part of the unit that had the most media exposure and for many the Revolution represents the time when they got hip to Prince's sound. Wendy and Lisa are phenomenal musicians and they were great with Prince during that time, however, there are countless others that were just as good and or better, yet no one ever talks about their importance. It's just nice to see a band other than the Revolution getting credit because for years and years around the org many people acted as though they were the end all of Prince's sound and that is just not true.

Also, and this is a personal issue with me, people go on and on about how W&L inspired Prince so much and how he needs/needed them so much. I don't agree with that. The collabs with W&L are great, however, people seriously over estimate their impact on Prince. If we go back and look at Prince's peak run, the Revolution was a vital cog, but his musical influences (ie. John L. Nelson, Carlos Santana, Miles Davis, Larry Graham, James Brown, Sly Stone, Parliament/Funkadelic, Little Richard, Stevie Wonder and many others) were just as or more prominent. If you go back and study Prince's influences you have a better grasp of who truly influenced Prince's style at all time during his career. Furthermore, Prince was still the visionary behind all of it because he would have been as succesful with whomever he surrounded himself with during that time. The Revolution was great at their time, but like his hero Miles Davis, Prince understands that you need new musicians when you want to go into new territory.

[Edited 6/6/05 17:04pm]
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Reply #64 posted 06/06/05 8:47pm

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DorothyParkerWasCool said:

sosgemini said:




that *is* the revolution.....ie, w/ wendy and lisa...it was recorded before they broke up.....


what im curious about is,

1) is this thread titled I have a problem (ie, issue) with The Revolution Band or I have a problem (trying to figure out something about) The Revolution band?

because...

2) Why do people seem to have such a personal hate for The Revolution? And in particular Wendy & Lisa.....I just dont get it...I loath Tony M and his coherts but I dont waste my energy pontificating on it.....so, if anyone would like to help me understand why you feel compelled to spew against them im all ears...



I don't think people loathe the Revolution per se, I just think some of us, myself included, feel that the Revolution gets a little too much praise, while other musicians that were just as vital or more vital to Prince's sound are overlooked and or not considered at all. The other musicians are often never mentioned because they weren't part of the unit that had the most media exposure and for many the Revolution represents the time when they got hip to Prince's sound. Wendy and Lisa are phenomenal musicians and they were great with Prince during that time, however, there are countless others that were just as good and or better, yet no one ever talks about their importance. It's just nice to see a band other than the Revolution getting credit because for years and years around the org many people acted as though they were the end all of Prince's sound and that is just not true.

Also, and this is a personal issue with me, people go on and on about how W&L inspired Prince so much and how he needs/needed them so much. I don't agree with that. The collabs with W&L are great, however, people seriously over estimate their impact on Prince. If we go back and look at Prince's peak run, the Revolution was a vital cog, but his musical influences (ie. John L. Nelson, Carlos Santana, Miles Davis, Larry Graham, James Brown, Sly Stone, Parliament/Funkadelic, Little Richard, Stevie Wonder and many others) were just as or more prominent. If you go back and study Prince's influences you have a better grasp of who truly influenced Prince's style at all time during his career. Furthermore, Prince was still the visionary behind all of it because he would have been as succesful with whomever he surrounded himself with during that time. The Revolution was great at their time, but like his hero Miles Davis, Prince understands that you need new musicians when you want to go into new territory.

[Edited 6/6/05 17:04pm]


i must admit that i have learned a lot these past few months reading threads within the associated artist forum here and the stuff at housequake..i never realized that prince allowed other bandmates to influence him like he did wendy and lisa....i guess they were the only ones he allowed to publically admit.....
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Reply #65 posted 06/06/05 10:23pm

VanitySixx

Thierry said:[quote]

Anxiety said:



wow, never seen this pic before. cool.

look at atlanta bliss's mullet. giggle


The way Prince and his band members dress is cool when you see them in videos or in concert footage but, seeing them outside in the sun, standing in grass, in a natural environment with those clothes on, they just look like weirdos. neutral
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Reply #66 posted 06/07/05 7:59am

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sosgemini said:

DorothyParkerWasCool said:




I don't think people loathe the Revolution per se, I just think some of us, myself included, feel that the Revolution gets a little too much praise, while other musicians that were just as vital or more vital to Prince's sound are overlooked and or not considered at all. The other musicians are often never mentioned because they weren't part of the unit that had the most media exposure and for many the Revolution represents the time when they got hip to Prince's sound. Wendy and Lisa are phenomenal musicians and they were great with Prince during that time, however, there are countless others that were just as good and or better, yet no one ever talks about their importance. It's just nice to see a band other than the Revolution getting credit because for years and years around the org many people acted as though they were the end all of Prince's sound and that is just not true.

Also, and this is a personal issue with me, people go on and on about how W&L inspired Prince so much and how he needs/needed them so much. I don't agree with that. The collabs with W&L are great, however, people seriously over estimate their impact on Prince. If we go back and look at Prince's peak run, the Revolution was a vital cog, but his musical influences (ie. John L. Nelson, Carlos Santana, Miles Davis, Larry Graham, James Brown, Sly Stone, Parliament/Funkadelic, Little Richard, Stevie Wonder and many others) were just as or more prominent. If you go back and study Prince's influences you have a better grasp of who truly influenced Prince's style at all time during his career. Furthermore, Prince was still the visionary behind all of it because he would have been as succesful with whomever he surrounded himself with during that time. The Revolution was great at their time, but like his hero Miles Davis, Prince understands that you need new musicians when you want to go into new territory.

[Edited 6/6/05 17:04pm]


i must admit that i have learned a lot these past few months reading threads within the associated artist forum here and the stuff at housequake..i never realized that prince allowed other bandmates to influence him like he did wendy and lisa....i guess they were the only ones he allowed to publically admit.....



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Reply #67 posted 06/07/05 9:13am

MacDaddy

VanitySixx said:[quote]

Thierry said:

Anxiety said:



wow, never seen this pic before. cool.

look at atlanta bliss's mullet. giggle


The way Prince and his band members dress is cool when you see them in videos or in concert footage but, seeing them outside in the sun, standing in grass, in a natural environment with those clothes on, they just look like weirdos. neutral


This picture was taken in august 1988 in Rotterdam at "De Kuip" (football stadium)
I attended one of the concerts and that was the best live experience I ever witnessed. With this band Prince really started doing aftershows and gigs in small clubs. As far as I recall he never did that with the revolution (well, not in Holland anyway). But this is most definately my favorite band.
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