vainandy said:

You didn't know...Me and hotlegs are going out for beers....

purplecam said:

prodigalfan said:

Absolutely. And between Legs and BlackGuitarist, I am learning more about Funk. They are true funksoldiers.
You Vain, take me down memory lane all the time talking about the Barkays, Brick, Lakeside, The Dazz Band, One Way.... reminds me when I was too young to drive.

murph said:

It's looks he decided to no longer fight the feeling and wants to make peace over the Funk. Perhaps, I will take him up on his offer.

However, Murph is still used to dealing w/college chicks and is unaware that ladies like myself don't fool with beer. I prefer top shelve and nothing less.

Alright now. Just don't get tricked into drinking Champale instead of Champaigne.

Hotlegs said:

Some of those smooth guys can fool you sometimes, remember this guy here.....

Some of those smooth guys can fool you sometimes, remember this guy here.....

murph said:

It's looks he decided to no longer fight the feeling and wants to make peace over the Funk. Perhaps, I will take him up on his offer.

However, Murph is still used to dealing w/college chicks and is unaware that ladies like myself don't fool with beer. I prefer top shelve and nothing less.
[Edited 5/30/05 0:22am]

I doubt if Prince took it anywhere near as seriously.

mozfonky said:

I agree with that statement. I think Rick had some issue from growing up a black man in America, and not having the luxury of looking like anything other than a black man. He definitely had a chip on his shoulder concerning Prince and it was more than just friendly competition, which imo is what Prince probably viewed the so -called feud.

Blackguitaristz definately knows his stuff. And don't forget about David Eye, The Real Finess, The Audience, and paligap. Those guys are some of the best.

Hotlegs said:

Hotlegs said:

hmm hmm. Absolute or nothing at all!

murph said:

It's looks he decided to no longer fight the feeling and wants to make peace over the Funk. Perhaps, I will take him up on his offer.

However, Murph is still used to dealing w/college chicks and is unaware that ladies like myself don't fool with beer. I prefer top shelve and nothing less.
[Edited 5/30/05 0:22am]

Hotlegs said:

.I'm going to hook you up with a French Connection (Hennessy and Grand Manier]...it's a great drink... I got you (LOL)....

That was definately my favorite era in music during the old Prince/Rick James feuding days. Rick would publicly badmouth Prince. Prince wouldn't speak or answer Rick's comments, he was more sneaky than that. He would go after people in Rick's camp like Vanity and Jill Jones. Then Rick would become more pissed and badmouth Prince some more. Then the albums started coming. Each year, both artists got better and better. The protegees' albums from both artists were also sizzling hot during that time.

Rick would always make the mistake of bragging on what he was going to do before he did it. Then, Prince would take the idea and do it before Rick would. Rick had also said on "Soul Train" about making a movie called "Alice In Ghettoland" years before Prince made "Purple Rain". I remember when "Purple Rain" came out, Rick did an interview with "Right On" magazine and really talked about the movie bad. He even reminded people that he had been talking about making a movie for years. Rick would have done much better if he had a record company like Warner Brothers that was promoting and supporting Prince. That's probably why he went to Warner Brothers when he left Motown. Motown was too busy trying to cheat it's artists. They really did a number on Teena Marie to the point that she sued them and there was a law made in her name.

Prince won't admit it, but he enjoyed that rivalry and loved to keep it going just like Rick. Prince even had a rivalry going within his own camp, with The Time. Hell, the movie "Purple Rain" was even about two rival bands. When Prince started slipping was when he didn't have anyone to compete with anymore. Those were truly some fun times. Today's artists couldn't have a good healthy rivalry like that because their rivalries always end in violence.

Didn't Prince steal Denise Matthews away from Rick? I thought I heard that somewhere a long ways back.

I guess I need to watch the third disc of my Chappelle's Show DVD.

cranshaw62 said:

Where is that Koolaid?????!!!!!

Once again...it wasn't JUST about race...it was a combination of race and music...Eddy Grant's Electric Ave. was ROCK, guitar driven with a little reggae thrown in...But being the pretty boy, is-he-black-or-white superstar helped with MJ and Prince...Tina Turner was given a pass because of her affiliation with white rock acts...There was more than just "a little protest..." They were talking about the shit on Evening News Talk Shows when Rick and other artists called them out on it...Nile Rogers was talking about it, Jesse Jackson (when he had real clout) was talking about...They finally broke down and started playing Kool And The Gang videos...That's what happened....Peep the clip at the bottom....

#

Piece from an old story on MTV:

An April 8, 1983, article in People magazine quoted the late funk star Rick James threatening to sue the network over its "blatant racism."

"'A lot of black asses are going to come together and explode on MTV,' James fumes," the article said. "'There are no blacks on MTV's program list except for Tina Turner, and she stopped being black about 10 years ago. MTV puts on little white punk groups who don't even have record deals. Blacks are missing exposure and sales.' On MTV's current roster of some 800 acts, 16 are black (Turner and Michael Jackson are the biggest names). 'We play rock and roll,' says an MTV spokesperson. 'We don't play Rick James because he's funk.'"
MTV was accused of being racist, which they countered by suggesting that few black artists recorded the kind of music that MTV featured (certainly a circular argument - their playlist resulted from demographic studies of a predominantly white audience). A particularly blatant example of racial exclusion was MTV's rejection of 5 Rick James videos even though Street Songs had sold over 4 million copies."

Not my quote homie.....

murph said:

MTV was full of shit back in those days.They claimed that they only played "rock" and New Wave,but back then (early 80s) MANY black artists were adding those elements to their sound.For example,a song like Cameo's "Alligator Woman" should have been all over MTV....a song like Rick James' "Super Freak" should have been all over MTV...a song like The System's "You Are In My System" should have been all over MTV (oddly enough,they had no problem airing the remake by Robert Palmer).These are R&B songs that have enough of a "pop/New Wave" sound to have made their playlist.Rick James was right to criticize them.

Handclapsfingasnapz said:

That picture is the epitome of why a LOT of brothers in the early days was walking out of P's shows. When my cousin went to see P at The Roxy during his second album, he said that folks were just up and walking out. P was clearing the room!

cranshaw62 said:

Where is that Koolaid?????!!!!!

Once again...it wasn't JUST about race...it was a combination of race and music...Eddy Grant's Electric Ave. was ROCK, guitar driven with a little reggae thrown in...But being the pretty boy, is-he-black-or-white superstar helped with MJ and Prince...Tina Turner was given a pass because of her affiliation with white rock acts...There was more than just "a little protest..." They were talking about the shit on Evening News Talk Shows when Rick and other artists called them out on it...Nile Rogers was talking about it, Jesse Jackson (when he had real clout) was talking about...They finally broke down and started playing Kool And The Gang videos...That's what happened....Peep the clip at the bottom....

#

Piece from an old story on MTV:

An April 8, 1983, article in People magazine quoted the late funk star Rick James threatening to sue the network over its "blatant racism."

"'A lot of black asses are going to come together and explode on MTV,' James fumes," the article said. "'There are no blacks on MTV's program list except for Tina Turner, and she stopped being black about 10 years ago. MTV puts on little white punk groups who don't even have record deals. Blacks are missing exposure and sales.' On MTV's current roster of some 800 acts, 16 are black (Turner and Michael Jackson are the biggest names). 'We play rock and roll,' says an MTV spokesperson. 'We don't play Rick James because he's funk.'"
MTV was accused of being racist, which they countered by suggesting that few black artists recorded the kind of music that MTV featured (certainly a circular argument - their playlist resulted from demographic studies of a predominantly white audience). A particularly blatant example of racial exclusion was MTV's rejection of 5 Rick James videos even though Street Songs had sold over 4 million copies."

Not my quote homie.....

I'm not even talking about the younger "fams" because they were just being born at the time, so naturally they wouldn't know anything about the funk during that time. I'm talking about the older "fams" that were around and want to badmouth Rick James. A lot of these people didn't even know who Prince was until "Little Red Corvette" when pop radio started playing Prince because they weren't into funk in the first place. Then they got hooked on Prince, bought up all of his influences' records, and then all of a sudden they think they are an expert on funk.

If someone didn't even know who Prince was until "Little Red Corvette", then they didn't know a thing about Rick James except for "Super Freak" which was his crossover hit. A person that only has knowledge about...."Super Freak", Rick using drugs and going to prison, and "I'm Rick James Bitch".....does not know a thing about Rick James.

vainandy said:

U killing em', vain!