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Thread started 05/25/05 11:59am

Gr8muta

Rick James was no Fan of Prince!

Not sure if it's anything new but if you check out the new Chappelle show season 2 the extra's feature Rick James's side of the Charlie Murphy skit.
Rick James apparently disliked Prince a great deal. The interview shed a new light on James's view on the "pretender" to his throne. James was an awesome cat and all but we all know Prince was able to evolve into the genius/megastar he remains today. It was just interesting to see how James totally shunned prince. ....I still like Rick and all but damn, he was cold on P !
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Reply #1 posted 05/25/05 12:18pm

kisscamille

It's called jealousy!

Rick knew (but would never admit) that Prince surpassed him in all aspects. Prince is a far superior musician, writer and person. Rick was just plain jealous because he knew he had nothing on Prince.
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Reply #2 posted 05/25/05 12:21pm

MetroArea

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Well, duh.

These was always beef between the two of them, and Rick did a lot of it because he was always bad-mouthing Prince.

I love Rick though, missed he is.
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Reply #3 posted 05/25/05 12:43pm

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Don't know how many folks in Prince Music and More are really aware of Rick and P, because it goes far back. And it appears that many just started getting into P in the late 80's, at the very earliest. But for all of the o.g. P fans that were actually into P before "When Doves Cry", this fued was double sided. Sure, there is no doubt that Rick was jealous of P. Rick later admitted this. But, at the time when P was opening up for Rick, Rick was definately the bigger star. And even in 81 when P released Controversy, Rick was at the top with his huge hit album "Streetsongs". Rick's popularity put heat on Prince to get it up, so to speak. Overall, it was just competition more than anything. Rick had his world as P was building his own. Period. Sure, Rick was the first to openly talk about P in the press, but that was just fanning the flames. Rick knew P was on the rise, so,...They both admired and respected each other as artists, if not as people.
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Reply #4 posted 05/25/05 12:44pm

Handclapsfinga
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we're well aware of the fact. thank you for repeatin it. bored
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Reply #5 posted 05/25/05 12:44pm

Tiffypoo2004

kisscamille said:

It's called jealousy!

Rick knew (but would never admit) that Prince surpassed him in all aspects. Prince is a far superior musician, writer and person. Rick was just plain jealous because he knew he had nothing on Prince.


i agree totally no offense may rick rest in peace.
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Reply #6 posted 05/25/05 1:01pm

beret1022

"I'M RICK JAMES BI-ATCH!!!" lol

RIP Rick James wink
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Reply #7 posted 05/25/05 1:06pm

carrynobanners

Rick James is a piece of shit. His music is the epitomy of glam-trash. He is not missed!
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Reply #8 posted 05/25/05 1:26pm

Handclapsfinga
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carrynobanners said:

Rick James is a piece of shit. His music is the epitomy of glam-trash. He is not missed!



get hip to some of rick's stuff and you'll know that he was indeed NOT a piece of shit. don't let vainandy see what you said, man...lol
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Reply #9 posted 05/25/05 2:14pm

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carrynobanners said:

Rick James is a piece of shit. His music is the epitomy of glam-trash. He is not missed!


Idiot.

You say Glam-Trash like it's a bad thing! rolleyes
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Reply #10 posted 05/25/05 2:20pm

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carrynobanners said:

Rick James is a piece of shit. His music is the epitomy of glam-trash. He is not missed!


that wasn't very nice neutral
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Reply #11 posted 05/25/05 2:25pm

psykosoul

blackguitaristz said:

Don't know how many folks in Prince Music and More are really aware of Rick and P, because it goes far back. And it appears that many just started getting into P in the late 80's, at the very earliest. But for all of the o.g. P fans that were actually into P before "When Doves Cry", this fued was double sided. Sure, there is no doubt that Rick was jealous of P. Rick later admitted this. But, at the time when P was opening up for Rick, Rick was definately the bigger star. And even in 81 when P released Controversy, Rick was at the top with his huge hit album "Streetsongs". Rick's popularity put heat on Prince to get it up, so to speak. Overall, it was just competition more than anything. Rick had his world as P was building his own. Period. Sure, Rick was the first to openly talk about P in the press, but that was just fanning the flames. Rick knew P was on the rise, so,...They both admired and respected each other as artists, if not as people.


No one is gonna listen to that part BG. Besides just months before he died Rick gave in interview giving Prince props on being an old-schooler who was still keeping the funk alive. But alas, no one is gonna look past the surface to get the real truth.
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Reply #12 posted 05/25/05 2:43pm

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Didn't Prince steal Denise Matthews away from Rick? I thought I heard that somewhere a long ways back.

I guess I need to watch the third disc of my Chappelle's Show DVD.
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Reply #13 posted 05/25/05 3:05pm

Anji

blackguitaristz said:

Don't know how many folks in Prince Music and More are really aware of Rick and P, because it goes far back. And it appears that many just started getting into P in the late 80's, at the very earliest. But for all of the o.g. P fans that were actually into P before "When Doves Cry", this fued was double sided. Sure, there is no doubt that Rick was jealous of P. Rick later admitted this. But, at the time when P was opening up for Rick, Rick was definately the bigger star. And even in 81 when P released Controversy, Rick was at the top with his huge hit album "Streetsongs". Rick's popularity put heat on Prince to get it up, so to speak. Overall, it was just competition more than anything. Rick had his world as P was building his own. Period. Sure, Rick was the first to openly talk about P in the press, but that was just fanning the flames. Rick knew P was on the rise, so,...They both admired and respected each other as artists, if not as people.
Ur spiel was correct until u got bold.

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Reply #14 posted 05/25/05 3:27pm

carrynobanners

MetroArea said:

carrynobanners said:

Rick James is a piece of shit. His music is the epitomy of glam-trash. He is not missed!


Idiot.

You say Glam-Trash like it's a bad thing! rolleyes


Should I say r&b glam trash? I'm down for glam rock, but the braids and warrior outfits James pulled off, what a jack-off
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Reply #15 posted 05/25/05 3:29pm

SPYZFAN1

DAMN!!! Where did THAT picture come from???!!?? Never seen that one before.
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Reply #16 posted 05/25/05 3:35pm

Universaluv

TheBigBang said:

Didn't Prince steal Denise Matthews away from Rick? I thought I heard that somewhere a long ways back.

I guess I need to watch the third disc of my Chappelle's Show DVD.


Well, he's been accused of stealing the idea for Vanity 6 from Rick's Mary Jane Girls.
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Reply #17 posted 05/25/05 4:02pm

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Handclapsfingasnapz said:

carrynobanners said:

Rick James is a piece of shit. His music is the epitomy of glam-trash. He is not missed!



get hip to some of rick's stuff and you'll know that he was indeed NOT a piece of shit. don't let vainandy see what you said, man...lol

That picture is the epitome of why a LOT of brothers in the early days was walking out of P's shows. When my cousin went to see P at The Roxy during his second album, he said that folks were just up and walking out. P was clearing the room!
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Reply #18 posted 05/25/05 4:05pm

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blackguitaristz said:

Handclapsfingasnapz said:




get hip to some of rick's stuff and you'll know that he was indeed NOT a piece of shit. don't let vainandy see what you said, man...lol

That picture is the epitome of why a LOT of brothers in the early days was walking out of P's shows. When my cousin went to see P at The Roxy during his second album, he said that folks were just up and walking out. P was clearing the room!

What was happening with those silver boots? And ..are those dolphin shorts? Damn. Why, P, why?
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Reply #19 posted 05/25/05 4:17pm

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Universaluv said:

TheBigBang said:

Didn't Prince steal Denise Matthews away from Rick? I thought I heard that somewhere a long ways back.

I guess I need to watch the third disc of my Chappelle's Show DVD.


Well, he's been accused of stealing the idea for Vanity 6 from Rick's Mary Jane Girls.


Also Andre, didn't he have a project called 'The Girls'?

Where-ever the idea came from, who cares - MJGs and V6 were both fierce as fuck! cool
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Reply #20 posted 05/25/05 4:22pm

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MetroArea said:

Universaluv said:



Well, he's been accused of stealing the idea for Vanity 6 from Rick's Mary Jane Girls.


Also Andre, didn't he have a project called 'The Girls'?

Where-ever the idea came from, who cares - MJGs and V6 were both fierce as fuck! cool

Yeah, Andre's group "The Girls" wasn't up to par with Mary Jane or Vanity 6 though.
SynthiaRose said "I'm in love with blackguitaristz. Especially when he talks about Hendrix."
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Reply #21 posted 05/25/05 4:27pm

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blackguitaristz said:

MetroArea said:



Also Andre, didn't he have a project called 'The Girls'?

Where-ever the idea came from, who cares - MJGs and V6 were both fierce as fuck! cool

Yeah, Andre's group "The Girls" wasn't up to par with Mary Jane or Vanity 6 though.


Did they ever release anything?
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Reply #22 posted 05/25/05 4:56pm

Hotlegs

Gr8muta said:

Not sure if it's anything new but if you check out the new Chappelle show season 2 the extra's feature Rick James's side of the Charlie Murphy skit.
Rick James apparently disliked Prince a great deal. The interview shed a new light on James's view on the "pretender" to his throne. James was an awesome cat and all but we all know Prince was able to evolve into the genius/megastar he remains today. It was just interesting to see how James totally shunned prince. ....I still like Rick and all but damn, he was cold on P !


Well, it all boils down to this, Rick basically felt like he didn't have to be a fan of shit if he didn't want to. Simply, due to the fact that he's been in the buisiness longer than Prince. Plus, Rick gave Prince's career a boast by letting him having an opening spot on tour when he was just starting out and struggling. Furthermore, Rick felt that Prince stole alot of his ideas and used them to his advantage and don't give him credit (which some of P's protogees say he is known to do alot) .
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Reply #23 posted 05/25/05 5:40pm

medina

All I know is dat when I'm carryin' both Prince's & R.J.'s CDs in my ride, the funk-dameter so high, other driver's look aroun' like, "Damn! where dat smell comin' from?"
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Reply #24 posted 05/25/05 6:07pm

funkpill

medina said:

All I know is dat when I'm carryin' both Prince's & R.J.'s CDs in my ride, the funk-dameter so high, other driver's look aroun' like, "Damn! where dat smell comin' from?"



cool I CAN DIG IT!!!
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Reply #25 posted 05/25/05 6:19pm

murph

blackguitaristz said:

Don't know how many folks in Prince Music and More are really aware of Rick and P, because it goes far back. And it appears that many just started getting into P in the late 80's, at the very earliest. But for all of the o.g. P fans that were actually into P before "When Doves Cry", this fued was double sided. Sure, there is no doubt that Rick was jealous of P. Rick later admitted this. But, at the time when P was opening up for Rick, Rick was definately the bigger star. And even in 81 when P released Controversy, Rick was at the top with his huge hit album "Streetsongs". Rick's popularity put heat on Prince to get it up, so to speak. Overall, it was just competition more than anything. Rick had his world as P was building his own. Period. Sure, Rick was the first to openly talk about P in the press, but that was just fanning the flames. Rick knew P was on the rise, so,...They both admired and respected each other as artists, if not as people.


Ditto....Another thing that must be noted is that Rick resented (and rightly so) how Prince, the light skinned, rock playing, crossover negro received major play on MTV while the more hardcore R&B cat Rick James was barred from the station. There was a huge outcry at one point in '82 in which black artists complained nationally that they were being descriminated by MTV. So along comes Prince, a guy that was just opening up for Rick just two years earlier, getting major airplay with Little Red Corvette as well as the non threatening MJ...That's why he disliked Prince...It wasn't simple jealousy...But in recent years, Rick James has come to respect our boy P...He was even quoted as saying that Prince truely represented the FUNK....But by simply saying it's jealously is doing a disservice to Rick's legacy....
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Reply #26 posted 05/25/05 6:32pm

LadySMD4

He's ENVEY!!!! Nought said!!!!
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Reply #27 posted 05/25/05 6:43pm

murph

LadySMD4 said:

He's ENVEY!!!! Nought said!!!!

Once again...see above message....
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Reply #28 posted 05/25/05 7:00pm

funkpill

Please!!! Let's just love the music from both artist....music

Both brought something to the funk..... cool
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Reply #29 posted 05/25/05 7:21pm

murph

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Please!!! Let's just love the music from both artist....music

Both brought something to the funk..... cool



Cool...But I love both artists' music...That's the reason I posted my statement...to let some of the org cats know that there's always another side to the story...Just because we are Prince fans doesn't mean we have to be bias....
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