Some feel turned off by his JW thang, as if they're being dogmatically preached 2! How about U?

I feel a little sorry for Prince actually. Turning to (IMO) such a backwards and stunted religion as Jehovahs Witnesses - I actually pity that part of him, it was quite disappointing.

Oliver said:

Ya silly thang!

MetroArea said:

Damn, but thanks for your honesty. It's also hard 4 me 2 understand.

I don't know. I've listened to a whole lot of devil-worshipping-artsy-fartsy music too and it's not like I am going around sacrificing bunny rabbits either. To me Prince is just another talented, lovable nutcase with no real grasp on proper spirituality. But damn, is he entertaining!

Oliver said:

but then again... replace Christ and his Father for example by Love and Yourself, and imho it becomes truth again, and also very much alike various other religious and spiritual developments like Tao en Zen. It's not all that different... you can do with it what you want, for me, I can relate

I don't feel preached to because i believe most of P's spiritual beliefs to be true. I can identify with P's Spirituality with the exception of the belief that only JW's will unite with Our Creator.

I think we'd agree that there is certain criteria needed to reach God but might disagree that there is only one religion that will take you there.

Love is our Destiny

AsianBomb777 said:

as for identifying with ol' boy: not really. and there's no such thing as "proper spirituality" to begin with. the very idea of that bullshit is absolutely absurd, in that most people's idea of ol' boy having any sorta spirituality that's "proper" is havin none at all.

Oliver said:

there is nothing 2 understand-it´s not good or bad,it just is... I would say don´t think 2 much just feel...if U can.

Oliver said:

When he was spiritual, I did.

Now that he's religious, I don't.

I DO identify with his quest for spirituality, i DONT identify with the choice he seems to have made, being a Jehovah Witness, a kind of 'believe' that has little to do with spirituality, but more with offering a dogmatic, limitating frame of rules.

I know quite a lot orthodox christians (protestants) who look back at their youth as a cold, controlled environment with almost no space for personal feelings, thoughts and expressions. They were hold backdogmatic religious rules. The JW offer a kind of 'religion' in the same vein: taking the bible literaly, surpressing personal thoughts and feelings, limiting people instead of giving them the freedom to express their spiruality.

You cant compare 'controlled' religion with freefloathing spirituality, and i feel sorry that Prince has fell into the trap of the first, and seem to have stopped to follow his 'innervoice'....

mzflash said:

Good Point, JWs say exactly what u mention above (there is only one religion that will take you to the Creator-JWs) and they were not founded until the 1800's. Then what happen to all the people from Jesus until 1800's, like they couldn't be saved...Please!

Riverpoet31 said:

I always thought that in discussions like this, a differance has to be pointed out. Spirituality & religion are two separate concepts. Spiritual is an individual's view on what is real outside our perceptions. An aethist can be spiritual in that he/she may not believe in God/dieties but believe in the concept of love. Religion is a group of individuals approaching what they commonly believe to be truth. If we start to argue one 'gainst the other, aren,t we comparing two different things that can never really be agreed upon?

I agree, medina, in the way that i say Jehovah Witnesses, as brainwashed folks following the wrong path, because they tend to believe in dogmatic rules made up by other people in a far past.

Personally i see spirituality as the sense / feeling that lets you understand what connects all religions, that all religions have their flaws, because they are 'second hand sources'. To feel connected with God, some higher creature, wholeness, whatever you might call it, you HAVE to free yourselve from the restraints a certain 'religion' put on you....

Somebody mention on this site that Prince's mamma was a JW, is that True????
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Astasheiks said:

no.

Handclapsfingasnapz said:

What was she????

Riverpoet31 said:

well said

nothing in the world could turn me into a JW. i think the teachings of the watchtower society are false in many respects and at times in direct conflict with the words of jesus.

that being said, i defend prince's right to choose his own path.

Astasheiks said:

seventh-day adventist.

Riverpoet31 said:

I too identify w/his quest for spiritual truth,however, I dont subscribe to the JW theology. However, I encourage all individuals to search for truth as we are all spiritual beings. I grew up as a non practicing catholic, we only went to church if someone was matched/hatched or dispatched. (marriage,baptism,death). However, I no longer am catholic, but do believe that the Bible is the word of GOD and Jesus the only way to salvation. Folks think just because P is no longer "free" to express his vulgar side, somehow he is no longer "spiritual", not realizing that when you believe in a certain way of life, like say the JW theology, you are free because you dont have to be vulgar or nasty anymore, Your in fact free to say no to that sort of thing. Many live in bondage yet think they are free. Our creator sets limits for us for our own good, not to "control" us. Just like I set limits for my kids. If I were to let them do what they "feel" or listen to thier "inner voice" they would end up in trouble, hurt, or possibly dead. And I don't dig them better dead.

THIS IS THE POPE!

Sad thing is, Prince always seems to blow which way the wind blows. Unlike Denise, Dez, and Sheila, I don't think he quite knows what he believes.

LovesexyIsThe1 said:

Agree!

thepope2the9s said:

I think that you bought up a very good point when discussing this stuff.Many live in bondage yet think they are free. I believe that 99.9% of all humans,including myself( yeah...I'm a human being)live in this state. The Buhdda's saying"Freedom/enlightenment is the end of all desire." This includes the desire to be one with God. When some-one believes they are separate from Being, aren't they in a constant struggle(challenge)to be one. Yet if one believes that they are already one with Being("I am")because he/she is the human part of human being then isn't that person free. There is no longer any anxiety(past) or worry(future)so now one can enjoy every second that comes into one's life(living in the present). There's more to what I'm saying but this is what I'm beginning to understand so far.

thepope2the9s said:

Isn't that something...Stop the Vulgar and Nasty side which is a Good Thing but at the same time Spread False Doctrinces; for example Watchtower Society teach that the 144,000 written in Revelation were their people

LovesexyIsThe1 said:

He has always been religious though. All of his spiritual stuff comes from a very Christian viewpoint, it's always been Christian.

I guess he's just settled for the more right-wing end of the Christian faith.

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Astasheiks said:

Your post is completely irrelevant - Try and make it more communnicative to those of us who like to keep an open mind where spirituality is discussed.
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