Cloudbuster said:

Oh, Kate has an extraordinary beauty!

TheFrogSpawn said:

I'm getting hungry!

Cloudbuster said:

Cheek said:

What are we laughin', bye the way?

Cheek said:

You being hungry for sick.

Cloudbuster said:

Oh yeah! I'm still hungry!

Cloudbuster said:

It's all up for debate.

Hotlegs said:

Maybe they did actually all sleep together. Maybe they still do.

I don't like this thread cause of the title.
Why didn't you say: "So did Kate Bush and Prince ever love each other in the face? twice?"

Spookymuffin said:

ya gotta give face to love huh? well then, talk to the little man in the boat....havta watch those July 30th Leo's, i know a couple of em better than i'd like seems Sinead was a bit 'spooked' by her encounter with Prince

Nope, they didnt SCREW together, they exchanged tapes.

Sex is overrated....period

Cloudbuster said:

Who knows.

i very much doubt it. you might want to read this. it's from michael koppelman, prince's former engineer and i always thought it was a pretty interesting perspective.

http://www.lolife.com/blo...00062.html

February 15, 2005

Kate Bush

Someone pointed out that Kate Bush's new album is almost done and in looking through the material I was reminded of something I wrote a long time ago about Kate Bush and Prince. The orginial piece seems to be lost to the net so I am posting it here.

On Mon, 2 Oct 1995 kln@crl.com wrote:

> > lolife@bitstream.net (LoLife) writes:
> > I've begged her to let me record or mix something for years (that's what
> > I do for a living). My wish came true when I worked on Why Should I
> > Love You when I worked for Prince, but I hated what he did to that song
> > so much it killed me.
> >
>
> So, lolife, tell us about this experience. We're curious little animals, the Love Hounds.
>
> Did you ever get to talk to Kate in person?

I did, but only for a short moment. I was at home and the phone rang. I
didn't always answer the phone in those days, because I was severly
overworked. So my answering machine picked it up and I heard Julie, from
Paisley Park, saying "Mike, I got Kate Bush on the phone and she has some
questions about what format they should send things over on, and I
thought it would be best if she talked to you. I, being an admitted Kate
Bush fan, freaked, but picked up the phone and talked to Julie. She says,
Kate, I have Prince's engineer Michael Koppelman on the phone and he can
answer your questions. Meanwhile, my answering machine is still recording
it all, and blaring loudly. I tell my then girlfriend to shut if off just
as Kate comes on and says Hello Michael? (so to this day, if I could find
it, i have a tape of Kate saying hello to me...). The conversation
consisted only of her asking me if they could send 24-track tapes and
what series SSL computer disks. I also asked her if she was going to come
to Minneapolis, and she said I don't think I'm wanted out there right
now. Then we basically said good-bye and hung up.

It's funny because Prince knew I was a huge KB fan. He was too, but not
like me. The first time I asked him if he liked Kate Bush he said, she's
my favorite woman. I also made him a tape of all the KB b-sides, which
fucking rule. When The Sensual World came out he had someone go get it and
we listened to it in the studio. He didn't dig it that much, but I knew
you can't always tell right away with a Kate album. TSW grew on me, but it
is still not her best effort. This Woman's Work is a masterpiece, though,
and makes the whole album worth it. But I digress. Prince is weird, and a
couple stories in this post prove it. I may be tooting my own horn here,
but Prince has a weird ego. I think *part* of his motivation to work with
Kate was the fact that I worshipped her, and he knew it would impress me
that he could call her on the phone and work on her music and shit.
ANYWAY, what led up to the phone conversation above: one day Prince's
assistant, Therese, told me as we were talking on the phone that Kate Bush
had called. Therese also knew I was a big Kate fan. Then, in the studio
that day, Prince said, guess who I talked to today. Me, being stupid and
unable to keep my mouth shut, said, Kate Bush? Prince got a little miffed,
and said How did you know that? And I said Therese told me, and he said,
hmm, I should dock here for that. At that point I knew I fucked up and
tried to say, no, she just knew I'm a big fan. As a side note, I told
Therese that Prince was a little pissed that she had told me that, and she
apologized to him. Therese is a really cool person. So, Prince tells me
that he and Kate are going to work on a tune together. He also told me
that while they were talking he told her that his engineer would rather
work with her than him. (I thought, wow, Prince and Kate Bush talking
about me!) ANYWAY, Eventually the phone call above occured and the tapes
arrived and I put them up and got a rough mix up. I still have a cassette
of it. It fucking rules. It is 1 million times better than the lame diso
Prince put on it. There was, of course, no disco on it before Prince got
his hands on it. So Prince comes in and listens to it. And the brutality
began. First we sampled the drum thing and synced it up to my Powerbook so
we could do MIDI. At that point, we essentially created a new song on a
new piece of tape and then flew all of Kate's tracks back on top of it. So
now we could run the sequencer and add all the keyboards that Prince put
on. So Prince stacked a bunch of keys, guitars, basses, etc, on it and then
went to sing background vocals. When Prince does vocals, he sits right at
the recording console with a microphone hanging over it and does his own
punching in and out. So he kicks everyone out of the room when he sings.
It took him a few hours and then he called me back in and played me the
thick, multi-tracked background vocals he had put on. Now, as we all know,
the song in question goes "Of all the people in the world why should i
love you". When Prince called me back in and played me what he had done,
he had sung "All of the people in the world", instead of Of All. I said,
isn't it OF all the people in the world? Not ALL of? He said, no, we had a
little talk about that, in his cocky way, as if to say he had talked with
Kate about changing the words to "all of" instead of "of all". The next
day, I was waiting at my hotel room for the call to go to the studio when
the assistant engineer, Sylvia Massy, called and said Prince was in the
studio doing vocals. I was surprised; i was always called well in advance
of Prince going into the studio. When I got there he was changing all the
vocals to "Of All", and was sampling them in himself, which is something
he would normally never do himself. My interpetation? He made a mistake,
as humans do, and didn't have the guts to admit it. That's weird. So I
sorta poked my head in at one point and asked him if he needed any help,
and we went on with the day. Eventually he had me do a rough mix, and when
he had approved it, we sent it to Kate. I got a call from Therese a few
days (or weeks, I forget) later. She said, Kate Bush said to destroy all
copies of that mix. I said, huh? Did she not like it or something? (my
heart rejoiced, because I hated what Prince did to it) She said, I don't
know, she just said to destroy them. Later on Prince told me, Kate Bush
liked what we did. She said it sounded very American. So at that point I
wasn't sure if she was even going to use it. We sent the tapes back and
she sort of split the difference with what he sent and what's on the
record. Kate, if you read this, stick the pre-Prince version of Why Should
I Love You out on something. And let me do a remix of Not This Time.

Later,
LoLife
aka
Michael Koppelman
lolife@bitstream.net
http://www.bitstream.net/gods/lolife

DISCLAIMER: The above is my perception of what occured. I was there, and
that's what I thought of it. I did not intend to invade anyone's privacy,
nor have I signed a non-disclosure agreement with any of the parties
mentioned. I also want to add that I truly enjoyed my years working for
Prince, but the man treats people as if he thinks he is actually "better"
than them, like he's royalty or something, and that makes it hard to look
back on working with him fondly.

jn2 said:

P.S. I'm a big fan of PG, I'm listening to his first album right now!

CandaceS said:

I am also a big fan of Peter's as well.

CandaceS said:

"Modern Love" is my fave!

Genius -> Peter Gabriel

blowpony said:

interesting read

XxAxX said:

yes it was! now if i can only get my hands on that track before Prince added his contribution.

yeah, i was also a little disappointed with the final product of Prince and Kate working together.

sinisterpentatonic said:

i think they were redeemed with "My Computer" though, no?

and have they finally met yet?

Cheek said:

sosgemini said:

They met at Prince's Nude Tour shows in '90.

And I actually prefer Why Should I Love You? over My Computer as it sounds more like a collaboration.

Cloudbuster said:

i don't consider my computer a collaboration, either. her voice is drowned out by effects. i would like to know the story behind this song also.

sinisterpentatonic said:

Me too.

sinisterpentatonic said:

Yeah, good song, tho. He just mixed her too far back. She may as well not even be there. I wonder what Kate thought of it.

Cloudbuster said:

she couldn't have liked it. i mean what was the point? though, i do like the track.

sinisterpentatonic said:

It's kind of insulting to the guest artist to bury their contribution. Maybe when the remastered edition of The Red Shoes comes out she'll replace his work with her own solo version of Why Should I Love You? That would teach him.

Kate Bush is a way too strong, independent women for Prince, just as Bjork is....

The minute Prince gets into their bedroom he will be victim of the whip!

Riverpoet31 said:

You never know that his twin might like that. Some of you forget that he is a Gemini .

So, your starsign clarifies who you are? lol