blackboab said: yep....not sure about the us but if you discount the re-issue of "1999" which re-entered the charts at the tail end of 1998, prince has not had a new top ten hit in the uk since "gold" made number 10 in december 1995.....he had at least one top hit every year from 1984 until 1995 and now nothing for almost ten years
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the cat's still on the scene...that speaks volumes more than having hit songs on the radio all the time. | |
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blackboab said: yep....not sure about the us but if you discount the re-issue of "1999" which re-entered the charts at the tail end of 1998, prince has not had a new top ten hit in the uk since "gold" made number 10 in december 1995.....he had at least one top hit every year from 1984 until 1995 and now nothing for almost ten years .....i think the fact that the uk singles chart is now to include downloads will help mature acts like prince getting back into the top reaches of the singles charts again but we will have to wait and see
... ...i think he will have another big hit sooner rather than later but we will see The last UK top ten hit was Betcha By Golly Wow, not Gold..... . | |
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GottaLetitgo said: Coming to this realization is hard but I don't believe that prince will ever have a solo Top 10 pop hit ever again. Radio has changed too much and the man, quite frankly, is just too old to have a pop hit. Radio has passed Prince by but it has also passed itself by. Radio no longer builds stars; it's just a series of "hits" by one hit wonders who are hot enough for a moment to get a song on "Now Part 57" and then subsequently disappear from the airwaves and the public consciousness. Name the last substantial star that pop radio produced. Maybe Beyonce but who besides that? Does anyone ever have multiple albums that are successful anymore? Is there any pop artist out there who the public anxiously anticipates their upcoming release? And what of 50 cent or other rappers who have basically taken over the "pop" charts. 50 Cent had three singles in the Top 10 recently, which I think has only been done by the Beatles. I like 50 Cent as much as the next guy but he ain't no Beatles. Is 50 Cent the face of pop music these days and if so, how could Prince possibly fit in?
Prince's age goes against him sinply because it is impossible for me to think of anyone over 40 getting substantial Top 40 airplay. Madonna, whose career instincts were always better than Prince's, no longer has pop hits. Nor does Sting, Bruce Springstein or any of Prince's contemporaries. Santana was about the last "older" artist to be a hit on pop radio but that is only because he had duets with stars that were hot and young. Pop radio is a young person's playing field. It pretty much always has been. In the 80's, were there any artists over 40 on pop radio either? I don't remember any. If Prince doesn't care about Top 40 hits so be it; he can still have hit albums with the right promotion. If he wants a Top 40 hit, he better call Beyonce, Rob Thomas, or 50 Cent. Amen. But I think Prince's attitude is "been there, done that". No one stays on top forever. Like Sting, Stevie Wonder & Bruce, Prince has proven his greatness. Now he can relax, do any kind of music he wants and tour when he feels like it. Doesn't bother me if he never has another hit. I have his library of great songs to listen to. | |
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Prince doesn't know how to make new music that appeals to the masses. He's totally out of touch. "You need people like me so you can point your fuckin' fingers and say, "That's the bad guy." "
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EvilWhiteMale said: Prince doesn't know how to make new music that appeals to the masses.
Well, in my opinion, nobody does. It's all about promotion and marketing. People in general are lazy and not really that interested in music, other than on a basic consumer's level. They will buy whatever stuff they're being exposed to, if the package looks good and it's available. It's like if I'm gonna buy some toilet paper - I'm not particularly interested in toilet paper, I don't know very much about it, and I'm too lazy to educate myself on the subject, comparing different marks and prices etc... I only know I need it. So I just go to the store and pick up whatever kind they happen to have. I don't go all around town, read newspapers and reviews, or check the internet, looking for the best quality - it's not that important to me! And unfortunately, most people feel the same way about music. | |
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SquirrelMeat said: blackboab said: yep....not sure about the us but if you discount the re-issue of "1999" which re-entered the charts at the tail end of 1998, prince has not had a new top ten hit in the uk since "gold" made number 10 in december 1995.....he had at least one top hit every year from 1984 until 1995 and now nothing for almost ten years .....i think the fact that the uk singles chart is now to include downloads will help mature acts like prince getting back into the top reaches of the singles charts again but we will have to wait and see
... ...i think he will have another big hit sooner rather than later but we will see The last UK top ten hit was Betcha By Golly Wow, not Gold..... ... ...sorry mate....betcha peaked at number 11 | |
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skywalker said: Prince has transcended above the charts---dig it.
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EvilWhiteMale said: Prince doesn't know how to make new music that appeals to the masses. He's totally out of touch.
You're right. Prince isn't an expert on C.R.A.P. (Contemporary Rap And Pop) that the TRL/106th & Park crowd are listening to at the moment. [Edited 4/29/05 19:22pm] | |
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TonyVanDam said: EvilWhiteMale said: Prince doesn't know how to make new music that appeals to the masses. He's totally out of touch.
You're right. Prince isn't an expert on C.R.A.P. (Contemporary Rap And Pop) that the TRL/106th & Parl crowd are listening to at the moment. | |
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PRINCE DOES OLD PEOPLE MUSIC NOW... HE DOESNT DO.THE FUNKY ROCK MUSIC..ANYMORE... HE MORE OF A JAZZ... OLD SCHOOL BOOP...PERSON...AND MOST PEOPLE WANT MORE EXCITMENT | |
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I thank the Good Lord - that Prince is not on the radio - and I pray he doesn't get a top 10 - I never listen to the radio - yet somehow still seem to have heard these horrible songs over and over - till I am SICK TO DEATH OF THEM! | |
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not entirely true you see.
"Last December" did go to number 1 in Japan. America isn't the only place in the world with charts ya know. | |
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8up said: I don't care if he's never on the radio again. Stuck in rotation between Rob Thomas and the Backstreet Boys, no thanks. I don't want to go to the Mega-Mart and see a huge goofy Prince poster next to Mary Kate & Ashley.
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I don't care, at least he has given us SOMETHING in those ten years, so for that, we should be grateful and just let it go. ------;;;;;' | |
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I'm very surprised 1999 wasn't a Top 10 hit. Prince is remembered for that song more so than many of the other Top 10 songs listed. | |
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Give the guy a break! He's given people enough Music, he's not a musical slave who has to serve up great music all the time. He's done more than enough. I have a horrible dream that when Prince is 70 years old people on this board will still be complainng about his latest musical venture! Scary thought!
If you long for the Prince of old then go study his earlier work, study his songwriting and production techniques, learn to play instruments and recreate something that you wish prince would write. | |
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blackboab said: yep....not sure about the us but if you discount the re-issue of "1999" which re-entered the charts at the tail end of 1998, prince has not had a new top ten hit in the uk since "gold" made number 10 in december 1995.....he had at least one top hit every year from 1984 until 1995 and now nothing for almost ten years .....i think the fact that the uk singles chart is now to include downloads will help mature acts like prince getting back into the top reaches of the singles charts again but we will have to wait and see
... ...i think he will have another big hit sooner rather than later but we will see The fact that Prince hasnt made the charts in years is of no consequence to me since the charts are full of (mostly) disposable, forgettable crap which is mainly bought by adolescents who wouldnt know a proper tune if it came up and said 'Hey, I'm a proper tune' and bit them on the ass. Just my humble opinion GetDownShakeItAroundDigOurFlavorfulFunkySound!! | |
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EvilWhiteMale said: Prince doesn't know how to make new music that appeals to the masses. He's totally out of touch.
----- Yes, the 1 million people that purchased Musicology at retail are not the masses (LOL) Do you ever know what you are talking about? Did you bother to read any of the comments on this topic? Are you even paying any attention to anything that is going on in the music industry? | |
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TotalAlisa said: PRINCE DOES OLD PEOPLE MUSIC NOW... HE DOESNT DO.THE FUNKY ROCK MUSIC..ANYMORE... HE MORE OF A JAZZ... OLD SCHOOL BOOP...PERSON...AND MOST PEOPLE WANT MORE EXCITMENT
----- People don't want excitment people want CRAP and they are getting loads of it. Enjoy. Now go eat dinner. Your mamma is calling you. | |
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Prince has a shot at a top 20 hit now more than ever..since Billboard started counting Music Downloads in the chart figures we have seen some very high debut's from songs that got very little airplay..in fact i think the Musicology single would have easily hit the top 40 last year if this system was in place at the time because it was pretty high on the itunes download chart for a few weeks Check it out ...Shiny Toy Guns R gonna blowup VERY soon and bring melody back to music..you heard it here 1st! http://www.myspacecomment...theone.mp3 | |
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Milty said: not entirely true you see.
"Last December" did go to number 1 in Japan. America isn't the only place in the world with charts ya know. seriously?! wow, were there any other singles from TRC? how many did it sell in japan then? thats mental! | |
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softandwet said: Milty said: not entirely true you see.
"Last December" did go to number 1 in Japan. America isn't the only place in the world with charts ya know. seriously?! wow, were there any other singles from TRC? how many did it sell in japan then? thats mental! 1 1 PRINCE "LAST DECEMBER" 2 3 ALANIS MORISSETTE "HANDS CLEAN" 3 4 THE CALLING "WHEREVER YOU WILL GO" 4 5 ALICIA KEYS "A WOMAN'S WORTH" 5 2 SPEECH F. 1 GIANT LEAP & NENEH CHERRY "BRAIDED HAIR" 6 7 FIVE FOR FIGHTING "SUPERMAN (IT'S NOT EASY)" 7 16 RELISH "YOU I'M THINKING OF" 8 10 RYAN ADAMS "NEW YORK NEW YORK" 9 9 MICHELLE BRANCH "ALL YOU WANTED" 10 13 PAM AND DODI "DON'T HAVE TO" Check it out ...Shiny Toy Guns R gonna blowup VERY soon and bring melody back to music..you heard it here 1st! http://www.myspacecomment...theone.mp3 | |
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In the 80's, were there any artists over 40 on pop radio either? I don't remember any.
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meltwithu said: In the 80's, were there any artists over 40 on pop radio either? I don't remember any.
Tina Turner Rod Stewart Check it out ...Shiny Toy Guns R gonna blowup VERY soon and bring melody back to music..you heard it here 1st! http://www.myspacecomment...theone.mp3 | |
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Mazerati said: meltwithu said: In the 80's, were there any artists over 40 on pop radio either? I don't remember any.
Tina Turner Rod Stewart Bruce Springsteen How Old was Billy Ocean ---------------------------------
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Aerosmith, the Rolling Stones, Stevie Wonder, Cher, Paul McCartney...they all had big hits in the 80s when they were in their late 30s-early 40s. Here's something to make you feel old...the two artists with the most longevity on this week's chart are Will Smith (17 years) and Mariah Carey (15 years).
If Prince gets his new video on the video channels and releases the song to iTunes he could very, very easily be back in the top 40, and maybe the top 10 if he hits with a fun, uptempo track. Of course he won't do that, he'll probably keep it on the NPGMC site. Which makes sense, since he'll make more money that way, charts be damned. And for everybody saying "who cares": no, charts absolutely don't make a song better (usually the opposite). But how much fun would it be to see Prince back in the top 20? Musicology wasn't necessarily better than TRC or Emancipation, but wasn't 2004 much more fun for all involved? Personally, I like seeing Prince on TV and (occassionally) hearing his new stuff on the radio. Some folks around here get a real superiority complex when *gasp* commercial success is brought up. Nobody said they wanted Prince to do a crunk track with Ciara *shudder*. | |
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GottaLetitgo said:
In the 80's, were there any artists over 40 on pop radio either? I don't remember any. I don't know about pop radio, but R&B radio in the 1980s was full of artists over 40. Diana Ross: Upside Down, I'm Coming Out, Muscles, etc. Smokey Robinson: Being With You, Tell Me Tomorrow, etc. Marvin Gaye: Sexual Healing, Sanctified Lady, etc. The Chi-Lites: Hot On A Thing, Bottoms Up, etc. The Temptations: Standing On The Top, Treat Her Like A Lady, Lady Soul, etc. The Four Tops: When She Was My Girl, Let Me Set You Free, etc. The O'Jays: I Just Want To Satisfy, You're Body's Here With Me, etc. Bloodstone: We Go A Long Way Back Rod Stewart: Passion, Infatuation, Some Guys Have All The Luck, etc. Tina Turner: What's Love Got To Do With It, You Better Be Good To Me, etc. The Barkays: Hit And Run, Freakshow On The Dance Floor, Traffic Jammer, etc. The Isley Brothers: Go All The Way, Between The Sheets, The Real Deal, etc. Also, lots of the funk groups from the 1970s, adapted and spilled over into the 1980s. It wasn't until the 1990s that music became so fucked up. If Prince doesn't care about Top 40 hits so be it; he can still have hit albums with the right promotion. If he wants a Top 40 hit, he better call Beyonce, Rob Thomas, or 50 Cent.
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RealMusician said: EvilWhiteMale said: Prince doesn't know how to make new music that appeals to the masses.
Well, in my opinion, nobody does. It's all about promotion and marketing. People in general are lazy and not really that interested in music, other than on a basic consumer's level. They will buy whatever stuff they're being exposed to, if the package looks good and it's available. It's like if I'm gonna buy some toilet paper - I'm not particularly interested in toilet paper, I don't know very much about it, and I'm too lazy to educate myself on the subject, comparing different marks and prices etc... I only know I need it. So I just go to the store and pick up whatever kind they happen to have. I don't go all around town, read newspapers and reviews, or check the internet, looking for the best quality - it's not that important to me! And unfortunately, most people feel the same way about music. Packaging and marketing can only go so far. Ultimately it's a matter of whether or not the music hits. Green Day got lots of hype, but the music itself was good, and that's what really got people to buy it. Prince can hype up an album as much as he likes, but after the initial curiosity is gone, the shitty album will tank. "You need people like me so you can point your fuckin' fingers and say, "That's the bad guy." "
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TonyVanDam said: EvilWhiteMale said: Prince doesn't know how to make new music that appeals to the masses. He's totally out of touch.
You're right. Prince isn't an expert on C.R.A.P. (Contemporary Rap And Pop) that the TRL/106th & Park crowd are listening to at the moment. His music doesn't have to me TRL worthy to be good. A lot of artists don't get mainstream recognition, but they still make kick-ass music. He can't even do that. "You need people like me so you can point your fuckin' fingers and say, "That's the bad guy." "
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