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Thread started 04/15/05 5:17am

blackboab

WHICH DO YOU PREFER..PRINCE THE MAINSTREAM ARTIST OR PRINCE THE CULT ARTIST.

in the fasinating music career that has been prince's, he has been the biggest selling music star on the planet(purple rain) and an indie artist releasing little known albums with no media coverage and small sales(the rainbow children, news) in the last year, he has once again became a mainstream artist with big sales (and concert giveaways) so which do you prefer....mainstream or cult?
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...me?....as much as i enjoy his musicial adventures into all kinds of music and i did enjoy the rainbow children's 'live' feel , i didnt like the fact that nobody even knew the album was out(apart from his real fans) and i read some reviews that said that 'prince's music didnt matter any more'his music and status should matter so i much prefered this last year when was getting noticed, getting rave reviews for his live shows, having a top ten album in the us and the uk....i like all his musicial journeys but i prefer prince the mainstream artist rather than prince the cult artist biggrin
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Reply #1 posted 04/15/05 5:20am

Krystal666

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Actually I used to love it when Prince was up there with MJ and Madonna at the time more oppurtinites to see him at award shows and preformances but I don't know it seems like he had more interaction with fans and was forced to do more interviews when he was a cult artist so I am secretly wishing he would alienate the public again....but I am very happy for him that the Musicology album and tour were a success. He deserved it! biggrin
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Reply #2 posted 04/15/05 5:58am

sermwanderer

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I'd love to have seen Prince during his proper commercial peak. The supposed resurgence with Musicology didn't really happen in the UK cause there was no tour, so I can't really recall anytime when he was on the up here.

So i'll say cult artist, as I have no real basis for comparison
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Reply #3 posted 04/15/05 6:04am

vainandy

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I prefer Prince back when he was a mainstream R&B artist and, during that same period, a pop cult artist.
[Edited 4/15/05 6:20am]
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Reply #4 posted 04/15/05 6:08am

KAB

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I wish TRC had got the recognition it deserves - it's my favourite Prince album and wish I it had more mainstream attention as it showcases Prince's musicianship like no other album ever has.

Here's hoping the promotion behind Musicology can continue with future mainstream releases. As without this "push" the album would have fallen by the wayside like all the others since the Symbol album. A fact bourne out by the in the UK - where there were no "giveaways" or TV appearances and hence little success.
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Reply #5 posted 04/15/05 8:12am

thekidsgirl

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Im happy when he's having sucess and is on TV b/c I get to enjoy him

but I think I prefer when hes more low key cause that adds to his
too cool mysterious mystic. I guess I like both as long as hes making music
...new album please?
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Reply #6 posted 04/15/05 8:14am

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cult artist. i've always been for anything underground.
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Reply #7 posted 04/15/05 8:28am

MidnightFunk

Cult Artist BY FAR.....

last year was kind of strange....
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Reply #8 posted 04/15/05 9:11am

3121

I have always regarded Prince to be a 'Cult Superstar'. Always.
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Reply #9 posted 04/15/05 9:15am

andykeen

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I always wanted 2 see prince MAINSTREAM again here in the UK, 2004 was huge, but not so big here in the uk, so fingers crossed, another D&P era will come around!

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Reply #10 posted 04/15/05 10:12am

skywalker

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I like Prince as he is and always should be: STRADDLING THE LINE

One foot in Rollingstone cover, box office smashing, TV appearing, hollywood partying land.

One foot in hard to find rare tracks, fan club only aftershows, 20 minutes long jam sessions.

Prince has long since straddled genres of music, and performing so to juggle popularity in the mainstream and his cult appeal makes sense.

Is he a dancer/performer? A guitar/piano/drum playing musician? A pop artist? FunK RocK?

He's a bit of everything and that's why I like his the most.
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Reply #11 posted 04/15/05 10:39am

vivid

skywalker said:

I like Prince as he is and always should be: STRADDLING THE LINE

One foot in Rollingstone cover, box office smashing, TV appearing, hollywood partying land.

One foot in hard to find rare tracks, fan club only aftershows, 20 minutes long jam sessions.

Prince has long since straddled genres of music, and performing so to juggle popularity in the mainstream and his cult appeal makes sense.

Is he a dancer/performer? A guitar/piano/drum playing musician? A pop artist? FunK RocK?

He's a bit of everything and that's why I like his the most.


Exactly.
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Reply #12 posted 04/16/05 8:11am

antoon

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they used to be one and the same.

But back then, "popular music" still sounded original and cult-like. Now those are two seperated spheres.



I agree totally with the Rainbow Children comment. Whether you like it or not, this was the very first Prince album in a long time where he said: "fuck it, I'm an artist" and came up with something compelling like he used to do.

I absolutely love that album and period.

cool
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Reply #13 posted 04/16/05 8:20am

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This is a very good question. But I swear to you, Prince had to be the ONLY artist that, at one point, (the mid 80s) seemed to be both mainstream AND cult AT THE SAME TIME. I kid you not. I know that doesn't make any sense, but I swear, that's what it seemed like at the time.
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Reply #14 posted 04/16/05 8:31am

SynthiaRose

During the PR era the difference wasn't with him, but with the tabloids.

Prince was being himself and the media and public in general latched onto him. Then this underground Dirty Mind-Rude Boy God became both cult artist and mainstream star.

(that's why I don't trash PR as just a commerical tripe ... i've always felt it was a legitimate,genuine art product that was deservingly hijacked).


But he's different now... traveling the awards show circuit ... partying , not with fams, but with the Hollywood elite... It's clear his mainstreaming now is more CONTRIVED.

I'd prefer he not contrive and play the game.

I don't mind if he's popular ... but I like the spotlight to come to him when he's doing his indie stuff, rather than have him make collabos or go to LA and schmooze...


But he'll be back soon, cuz he will tire of that superficiality.
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Reply #15 posted 04/16/05 8:33am

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SquarePeg said:

This is a very good question. But I swear to you, Prince had to be the ONLY artist that, at one point, (the mid 80s) seemed to be both mainstream AND cult AT THE SAME TIME. I kid you not. I know that doesn't make any sense, but I swear, that's what it seemed like at the time.


I concur ...
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Reply #16 posted 04/16/05 8:52am

EvilWhiteMale

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If by cult artist you mean one who makes crap like The Rainbow Children, then give me mainstream all the way.
"You need people like me so you can point your fuckin' fingers and say, "That's the bad guy." "

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Reply #17 posted 04/16/05 8:52am

vivid

antoon said:

they used to be one and the same.

But back then, "popular music" still sounded original and cult-like. Now those are two seperated spheres.



I agree totally with the Rainbow Children comment. Whether you like it or not, this was the very first Prince album in a long time where he said: "fuck it, I'm an artist" and came up with something compelling like he used to do.

I absolutely love that album and period.

cool


Tottaly agree with this too.
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Reply #18 posted 04/16/05 9:03am

SquarePeg

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EvilWhiteMale said:

If by cult artist you mean one who makes crap like The Rainbow Children, then give me mainstream all the way.

rolleyes
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Reply #19 posted 04/16/05 9:09am

skywalker

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antoon said:"they used to be one and the same.But back then, "popular music" still sounded original and cult-like. Now those are two seperated spheres."

When was this that pop music was original and cult like?? Not usually it didn't.

Sure you had some deviations: The Beatles, Stevie, James,etc. For the most part, pop music is as crappy as ever. Teenie boppers unite!

Pop music of the 50's: Pat Boone, Perry Como, and Patti Page

Pop music of the 60's: The Shirelles, Jan & Dean, The Monkees

Pop music of the 70's: John Denver, The Carpenters, Neil Diamond

Pop Music of the 80's: Rick Springfield, New Kids on the Block, Paula Abdul

Pop music of the 90's: Spice Girls, Vanilla Ice, Milli Vanilli,

Pop music of 00's: Britney, N'sync, Hillary Duff

So when was pop music cult like and original?? Most of the time it is what it is. Mass music for thenon-funky.
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Reply #20 posted 04/17/05 2:16am

krayzie

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Mainstream all the way, because during those years he made great music (Purple rain, 1999, Sign O the Times)
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Reply #21 posted 04/17/05 2:55am

TonyVanDam

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Prince THE Mainstream Artist is THE REAL Prince.
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Reply #22 posted 04/17/05 2:55am

TonyVanDam

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krayzie said:

Mainstream all the way, because during those years he made great music (Purple rain, 1999, Sign O the Times)


Damn right!
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Reply #23 posted 04/17/05 2:57am

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EvilWhiteMale said:

If by cult artist you mean one who makes crap like The Rainbow Children, then give me mainstream all the way.


Damn right!!!
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Reply #24 posted 04/17/05 3:00am

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Handclapsfingasnapz said:

cult artist. i've always been for anything underground.


The underground is great as long as it's funky and cutting edge.

But if it isn't great, it's not funky and it sucks.
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Reply #25 posted 04/17/05 4:24am

rudeboynpg

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Underground cult artist. Prince makes music as an art. He's said it many times,
he does not care about hits and awards.

Goodnight, sweet Prince.
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Reply #26 posted 04/17/05 5:23am

ThaCat

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When i was a early teen it was naughty and rebellious to be a Prince Fan,

now everbody looks back and says yeh he was cool,. i think this day in age, everybody is looking at older artist with more respect and completely forgive the artist for any mistakes they did back in their early days..
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Reply #27 posted 04/17/05 12:24pm

SquarePeg

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TonyVanDam said:

Prince THE Mainstream Artist is THE REAL Prince.

I disagree. Dirty Mind Prince was NOT mainstream at all, and yet that was the best period for him, IMO.
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Reply #28 posted 04/17/05 12:25pm

SquarePeg

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ThaCat said:

When i was a early teen it was naughty and rebellious to be a Prince Fan,

now everbody looks back and says yeh he was cool,. i think this day in age, everybody is looking at older artist with more respect and completely forgive the artist for any mistakes they did back in their early days..

I think you're absolutely right. Hindsight is 20/20, is it?
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Reply #29 posted 04/17/05 12:53pm

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SquarePeg said:

Hindsight is 20/20, is it?


confused! sad
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