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Reply #30 posted 04/18/05 1:04am

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Krystal666 said:

PurpleKnight said:



The Morning Papers sounds like some sort of creepy fantasy a perverted old man plays over in his head.

"Why is age more than a number when it comes to love?"

Umm...


Uh isn't that what Prince was when he got with Mayte????? I mean if he wasn't a famous rock star and he was lusting after a sixteen year old everyone would be like ewwwww... biggrin


The way the lyrics are written, it sounds like a song any old pervert lusting after a little girl could relate to. That's very disturbing.

"He realized that she was new to love, naive in every way."

That stuff's just creepy and unsettling. Makes it sound like an old guy taking advantage of this poor young girl who doesn't have a clue.

Even if that is the true Prince/Mayte story, I don't wanna hear about it in such a graphic way.

I'm sure that Prince is no sleazy old pervert lusting after teenagers, but this song sure makes it sound like it. For the record, there's no evidence to suggest Prince lusted after Mayte when she was 16. Only later, when she was a young adult.

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Reply #31 posted 04/18/05 1:25am

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PurpleKnight said:

Krystal666 said:



Uh isn't that what Prince was when he got with Mayte????? I mean if he wasn't a famous rock star and he was lusting after a sixteen year old everyone would be like ewwwww... biggrin


The way the lyrics are written, it sounds like a song any old pervert lusting after a little girl could relate to. That's very disturbing.

"He realized that she was new to love, naive in every way."

That stuff's just creepy and unsettling. Makes it sound like an old guy taking advantage of this poor young girl who doesn't have a clue.

Even if that is the true Prince/Mayte story, I don't wanna hear about it in such a graphic way.

I'm sure that Prince is no sleazy old pervert lusting after teenagers, but this song sure makes it sound like it. For the record, there's no evidence to suggest Prince lusted after Mayte when she was 16. Only later, when she was a young adult.

[Edited 4/18/05 1:05am]


18's still really young, especially considering Prince's age.
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Reply #32 posted 04/18/05 1:26am

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I love this album. Piece by piece, it's got it's share of problems (Tony M. is only one of them) but overall it's a great, underrated album. thumbs up!
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Reply #33 posted 04/18/05 1:51am

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PurpleKnight said:

Krystal666 said:



Uh isn't that what Prince was when he got with Mayte????? I mean if he wasn't a famous rock star and he was lusting after a sixteen year old everyone would be like ewwwww... biggrin


The way the lyrics are written, it sounds like a song any old pervert lusting after a little girl could relate to. That's very disturbing.

"He realized that she was new to love, naive in every way."

That stuff's just creepy and unsettling. Makes it sound like an old guy taking advantage of this poor young girl who doesn't have a clue.

Even if that is the true Prince/Mayte story, I don't wanna hear about it in such a graphic way.

I'm sure that Prince is no sleazy old pervert lusting after teenagers, but this song sure makes it sound like it. For the record, there's no evidence to suggest Prince lusted after Mayte when she was 16. Only later, when she was a young adult.

[Edited 4/18/05 1:05am]


True but wasn't Anna Garcia like 15 or 16? And lord knows who eles. But I guess younger women are appealing because they haven't grown into their own person yet and can be molded. cool
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Reply #34 posted 04/18/05 2:12am

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Pimp Rag, Toosie Pop, and a Cane. Arrogance
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Reply #35 posted 04/18/05 2:32am

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Krystal666 said:

PurpleKnight said:



The way the lyrics are written, it sounds like a song any old pervert lusting after a little girl could relate to. That's very disturbing.

"He realized that she was new to love, naive in every way."

That stuff's just creepy and unsettling. Makes it sound like an old guy taking advantage of this poor young girl who doesn't have a clue.

Even if that is the true Prince/Mayte story, I don't wanna hear about it in such a graphic way.

I'm sure that Prince is no sleazy old pervert lusting after teenagers, but this song sure makes it sound like it. For the record, there's no evidence to suggest Prince lusted after Mayte when she was 16. Only later, when she was a young adult.

[Edited 4/18/05 1:05am]


True but wasn't Anna Garcia like 15 or 16? And lord knows who eles. But I guess younger women are appealing because they haven't grown into their own person yet and can be molded. cool


Guess P.'s motto is, "If there's grass on the field, you can play."

lol
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Reply #36 posted 04/18/05 3:25am

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meow85 said:

PurpleKnight said:



The way the lyrics are written, it sounds like a song any old pervert lusting after a little girl could relate to. That's very disturbing.

"He realized that she was new to love, naive in every way."

That stuff's just creepy and unsettling. Makes it sound like an old guy taking advantage of this poor young girl who doesn't have a clue.

Even if that is the true Prince/Mayte story, I don't wanna hear about it in such a graphic way.

I'm sure that Prince is no sleazy old pervert lusting after teenagers, but this song sure makes it sound like it. For the record, there's no evidence to suggest Prince lusted after Mayte when she was 16. Only later, when she was a young adult.

[Edited 4/18/05 1:05am]


18's still really young, especially considering Prince's age.


Yeah I know, but The Morning Papers sounds like it was written by a 40 year old man who's lusting after a ten year old girl and doesn't understand why it's gross.
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Reply #37 posted 04/18/05 3:39am

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I love the way Arrogance stops and The Flow kicks in...
my fav 2 tracks on the album,along with My name is...
Sexy MF,God created woman and Damn U-A magnificent ballad!
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Reply #38 posted 04/18/05 10:30am

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So I'm the only one who loves Sweet Baby then???
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Reply #39 posted 04/18/05 5:12pm

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I love Sweet Baby!

And I have never been bothered by segues, not the Kirstie Alley nor the Beautiful Experience answering machine. Actually I like those.

Mayte is a bit corny on the "give back the chains" part, but at least it's better than the stuff on 7 video "a little girl crying inside a mirror....that's her heart, it was golden, golden.." Those make me laugh. I like them too, all of them.
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Reply #40 posted 04/18/05 6:24pm

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PurpleKnight said:

meow85 said:



18's still really young, especially considering Prince's age.


Yeah I know, but The Morning Papers sounds like it was written by a 40 year old man who's lusting after a ten year old girl and doesn't understand why it's gross.

nod Yeah, I know what you mean. That's essentially what it is, too -just the ages are slighlty closer together than 10 and 40. I seem to remember articles in celeb magazines criticizing him for his taste in women (young!)


How old was Prince then, anyway? hmmm
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Reply #41 posted 04/19/05 6:55pm

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Only track I can't really listen to anymore is "Morning Papers"--too Elton Johnish.


OMG!!! eek eek eek Tell me you're joking!


musically not lyrically
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Reply #42 posted 04/19/05 7:00pm

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So I'm the only one who loves Sweet Baby then???



it is Divine...I especially like the Xenophobia mix
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Reply #43 posted 04/20/05 1:47am

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meow85 said:

Krystal666 said:



True but wasn't Anna Garcia like 15 or 16? And lord knows who eles. But I guess younger women are appealing because they haven't grown into their own person yet and can be molded. cool


Guess P.'s motto is, "If there's grass on the field, you can play."

lol


omfg Yes but what about the invention Brazillian bikini wax?? biggrin
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Reply #44 posted 04/20/05 7:42am

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I tried helping a girlfriend with some home waxing... it looked like torture... "okay..pull!"

Krystal666 said:

meow85 said:



Guess P.'s motto is, "If there's grass on the field, you can play."

lol


omfg Yes but what about the invention Brazillian bikini wax?? biggrin
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Reply #45 posted 04/20/05 7:47am

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i've always loved arrogance. smile really dig that tune. file with tamborine and dance on. wink

The Flow, though, is diabolical. ill
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Reply #46 posted 04/20/05 4:38pm

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I like Arrogance.
It's Prince saying if I wasn't arrogance would I be a star?

You love his arrogant attitude deep down don't cha?
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Reply #47 posted 04/20/05 7:22pm

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Disclaimer: posting without reading other posts.


In my opinion, and I can see why others may argue, prince is an extremely well put together album. Sonicly is has MANY layers. Prince at the top of his game as a producer. Maybe not as a musician. Some may say it has to many trax, not as in songs, but soundboard trax. We all know Prince can record an album with a 24 track in his basemant...let him have some liberties every now and then. It hits like nobodys business. Covers a lot of styles, but not a minimal style by any means. All the songs fit together. I think it's just great. Pinnicle of the commercial Prince...and I can see why he felt trapped afterwards cuz it was sort of the best he could have done with the "Prince" image at the time. Kind of like how the NPG was disbanded shortly after the release of The Exodus Has Begun. That was the best he could do with that lineup.
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