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Thread started 04/21/05 10:55am

xpertluva

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unreleased 90's 00's songs

Prince's vault of unreleased material has reached mythical status. However, when I think about it, I always imagine songs from the 80's. Has anyone heard about how much unreleased material there is from the 90's and beyond. Is there a Tony M album that never saw the light of day? I'm just curious.
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Reply #1 posted 04/21/05 11:20am

JellyJam

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xpertluva said:

Is there a Tony M album that never saw the light of day? I'm just curious.


If there is then it should be ritually set alight, along with Tony M.
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Reply #2 posted 04/21/05 11:25am

BorisFishpaw

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Leaks and info dried up in '96.
So practically nothing is known about unreleased material after that point.
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Reply #3 posted 04/21/05 11:45am

metalorange

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BorisFishpaw said:

Leaks and info dried up in '96.
So practically nothing is known about unreleased material after that point.


I was wondering, often Prince register himself as writer of songs even when they are never released - remember a while back we were talking about the song Coca Cola being registered? Well it occurred to me that Prince might still register songs even upto current times. Surely it would be possible to find out at least the song titles?
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Reply #4 posted 04/21/05 2:10pm

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Following is a list o songs the titles of which I am not familiar with from the ASCAP database. Prince is listed as a writer of each of these songs, most of them are administered by Controversy Music. Can someone tell me whether these songs are on officcial albums, bootlegs, or still remain unreleased? Thx!


5 FOOT CITY
ALLEGIANCE
AMERICAN IN PARIS
AND HOW
ARE U WID IT?
ASSWOOP
BABY DON'T CARE
BE MY MIRROR
BIG TALL WALL
BITE THE BEAT
BLACK M.F. IN THE HOUSE
BLISS
BLOOD IS THICKER THAN TIME
BLUE LIGHT
BODY
BROTHER WITH A PURPOSE
BY ALIEN MEANS
CAUGHT BETWEEN TWO LOVERS
COLOR
COURTIN TIME
DA, DA, DA
DADDY NEVER LEFT YA
DO YOUR HOMEWORK
DREAM
FLUTESTRAMENTAL
FUN
GET YOURSELF TOGETHER (PARTS 1 & 2)
HEY U
HOLD ME
HOUSE IN ORDER
HOW DEEP
HOWEVER MUCH YOU WANT
HUMAN BODY (THE)
I'M A DJ
IF THE KID CAN'T MAKE YOU COME
KALIFORNIA
KUM FOLLOW ME
LAST HEART
LUBRICATED LADY THE
MAKE BELIEVE
MAKE IT THROUGH THE STORM
MAKE YOUR MAMA HAPPY
MOVE ME
MR. HAPPY
N.Y. SLAMS
NOBODY LOVES ME
P, THE
PARIS 17984302
PURPOSE IN YOUR LIFE
RAP LIFE
REST OF MY LIFE
RHYTHM OF YOUR HEART THE
ROCK 'DAT ASS
SATANDING AT THE ALTER
SCHOOLYARD
SEVEN CORNERS
SEXY STAXAPHONE AND GUITAR
SHE'S JUST A BABY
SKIP TO MY YOU MY DARLING
SKYS THE LIMIT THE
SUPER HERO
TELEPATHY
THINGS HAVE GOTTA CHANGE
U WANT ME
U'RE ALL I WANT
WELL DONE
XENOPHOBIA
We Can Funk
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Reply #5 posted 04/21/05 2:22pm

Nasalhair

Answers through the list (apologies for all the omissions)...

Papaj said:

Following is a list o songs the titles of which I am not familiar with from the ASCAP database. Prince is listed as a writer of each of these songs, most of them are administered by Controversy Music. Can someone tell me whether these songs are on officcial albums, bootlegs, or still remain unreleased? Thx!


5 FOOT CITY
ALLEGIANCE
AMERICAN IN PARIS
AND HOW
ARE U WID IT?
ASSWOOP
BABY DON'T CARE
BE MY MIRROR
BIG TALL WALL
BITE THE BEAT
BLACK M.F. IN THE HOUSE
BLISS
BLOOD IS THICKER THAN TIME
BLUE LIGHT --This was on "Symbol"
BODY
BROTHER WITH A PURPOSE --This appeared on the "New Power Generation" EP
BY ALIEN MEANS
CAUGHT BETWEEN TWO LOVERS
COLOR
COURTIN TIME --This was on "Emancipation"
DA, DA, DA --This was on "Emancipation"
DADDY NEVER LEFT YA
DO YOUR HOMEWORK
DREAM
FLUTESTRAMENTAL --Think this was on one of the EPs.
FUN
GET YOURSELF TOGETHER (PARTS 1 & 2)
HEY U
HOLD ME
HOUSE IN ORDER
HOW DEEP
HOWEVER MUCH YOU WANT
HUMAN BODY (THE) --This was on "Emancipation"
I'M A DJ
IF THE KID CAN'T MAKE YOU COME
KALIFORNIA
KUM FOLLOW ME
LAST HEART --Great little tune, this one smile
LUBRICATED LADY THE --This was on "New Power Generation" EP
MAKE BELIEVE
MAKE IT THROUGH THE STORM
MAKE YOUR MAMA HAPPY --Wasn't this on "Emancipation"?
MOVE ME
MR. HAPPY --This was on "Emancipation"
N.Y. SLAMS
NOBODY LOVES ME
P, THE
PARIS 17984302
PURPOSE IN YOUR LIFE
RAP LIFE
REST OF MY LIFE
RHYTHM OF YOUR HEART THE
ROCK 'DAT ASS
SATANDING AT THE ALTER
SCHOOLYARD --I loved this one. Heard it on a boot.
SEVEN CORNERS
SEXY STAXAPHONE AND GUITAR
SHE'S JUST A BABY
SKIP TO MY YOU MY DARLING
SKYS THE LIMIT THE
SUPER HERO
TELEPATHY
THINGS HAVE GOTTA CHANGE --Tony M rap. Sure it was on an EP.
U WANT ME
U'RE ALL I WANT
WELL DONE
XENOPHOBIA --This was on one of the NPGMC CDs (haven't bought it myself.)


Hope this helps.
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Reply #6 posted 04/21/05 2:30pm

BorisFishpaw

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Papaj said:

Following is a list o songs the titles of which I am not familiar with from the ASCAP database. Prince is listed as a writer of each of these songs, most of them are administered by Controversy Music. Can someone tell me whether these songs are on officcial albums, bootlegs, or still remain unreleased? Thx!


OK, here ya go...
(recording artist and title)

5 FOOT CITY - unknown
ALLEGIANCE - Howard Hewett / Allegiance
AMERICAN IN PARIS - unreleased
AND HOW - Jevetta Steele / Here It Is
ARE U WID IT? - unknown
ASSWOOP - Madhouse / 24 (unreleased)
BABY DON'T CARE - Mayte / Child Of The Sun
BE MY MIRROR - unreleased
BIG TALL WALL - unreleased
BITE THE BEAT - Vanity 6 / Vanity 6
BLACK M.F. IN THE HOUSE - The NPG / Goldnigga
BLISS - Kahoru Kohiruimaki / Time The Motion
BLOOD IS THICKER THAN TIME - Mavis Staples / The Voice
BLUE LIGHT - Prince & the NPG / prince
BODY - unknown
BROTHER WITH A PURPOSE - Prince (with Tony M) / N.P.G. maxi single
BY ALIEN MEANS - unreleased
CAUGHT BETWEEN TWO LOVERS - unreleased
COLOR - The Steeles / 1-800-NEW-FUNK
COURTIN TIME - prince / Emancipation
DA, DA, DA - prince / Emancipation
DADDY NEVER LEFT YA - unknown
DO YOUR HOMEWORK - unknown
DREAM - unknown
FLUTESTRAMENTAL - Prince & the NPG / Gett Off maxi single
FUN - Carmen Electra / Carmen Electra
GET YOURSELF TOGETHER (PARTS 1 & 2) - unknown
HEY U - unknown
HOLD ME - Jevetta Steele / Here It Is
HOUSE IN ORDER - Mavis Staples / The Voice
HOW DEEP - unknown
HOWEVER MUCH YOU WANT - Mayte / Child Of The Sun
HUMAN BODY (THE) - prince / Emancipation
I'M A DJ (Eye Am The DJ) - unreleased
IF THE KID CAN'T MAKE YOU COME - The Time / Ice Cream Castle
KALIFORNIA - unknown
KUM FOLLOW ME - unknown
LAST HEART - Prince / Crystal Ball
LUBRICATED LADY THE - Prince / N.P.G. maxi single
MAKE BELIEVE - unreleased
MAKE IT THROUGH THE STORM - unreleased
MAKE YOUR MAMA HAPPY - Prince / Crystal Ball
MOVE ME - unknown
MR. HAPPY - prince / Emancipation
N.Y. SLAMS - unknown
NOBODY LOVES ME - unknown
P, THE - unreleased
PARIS 17984302 - Tevin Campbell / I'm Ready
PURPOSE IN YOUR LIFE - unknown
RAP LIFE - unknown
REST OF MY LIFE - Prince / The Vault... Old Friends 4 Sale
RHYTHM OF YOUR HEART THE - Mayte / Child Of The Sun
ROCK 'DAT ASS - unknown
SATANDING AT THE ALTER - Margie Cox / 1-800-NEW-FUNK
SCHOOLYARD - unreleased
SEVEN CORNERS - Ingrid Chavez (unreleased, tho does appear in Graffiti Bridge movie)
SEXY STAXAPHONE AND GUITAR - prince / The Beautiful Experience EP
SHE'S JUST A BABY - unreleased
SKIP TO MY YOU MY DARLING - Jevetta Steele / Here It Is
SKYS THE LIMIT THE - unknown
SUPER HERO - Earth Wind & Fire / Millennium
TELEPATHY - Deborah Allen / Telepathy
THINGS HAVE GOTTA CHANGE - Prince & the NPG / Cream maxi single
U WANT ME - unreleased (tho does appear on Prince live at the Alladin DVD)
U'RE ALL I WANT - unknown
WELL DONE - The Steeles / Heaven Help Us All
XENOPHOBIA - Prince / One Nite Alone... Live!
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Reply #7 posted 04/21/05 3:27pm

Papaj

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Thx, Boris! You'v got some knowledge, dude! But still, some o these songs are unknown... Why would Prince register tunes he didn't intend to release?
We Can Funk
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Reply #8 posted 04/21/05 5:29pm

moonshine

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BorisFishpaw said:

Papaj said:

Following is a list o songs the titles of which I am not familiar with from the ASCAP database. Prince is listed as a writer of each of these songs, most of them are administered by Controversy Music. Can someone tell me whether these songs are on officcial albums, bootlegs, or still remain unreleased? Thx!


IN addition to Boris' fine post , I've placed an asterisk next to the tracks
that are "unreleased" but on a bootleg or are released but also on a bootleg with Prince singing as opposed to the artist he gave the song to


OK, here ya go...
(recording artist and title)

5 FOOT CITY - unknown
ALLEGIANCE - Howard Hewett / Allegiance*
AMERICAN IN PARIS - unreleased
AND HOW - Jevetta Steele / Here It Is
ARE U WID IT? - unknown
ASSWOOP - Madhouse / 24 (unreleased)
BABY DON'T CARE - Mayte / Child Of The Sun
BE MY MIRROR - unreleased*
BIG TALL WALL - unreleased*
BITE THE BEAT - Vanity 6 / Vanity 6
BLACK M.F. IN THE HOUSE - The NPG / Goldnigga
BLISS - Kahoru Kohiruimaki / Time The Motion*
BLOOD IS THICKER THAN TIME - Mavis Staples / The Voice
BLUE LIGHT - Prince & the NPG / prince
BODY - unknown
BROTHER WITH A PURPOSE - Prince (with Tony M) / N.P.G. maxi single
BY ALIEN MEANS - unreleased
CAUGHT BETWEEN TWO LOVERS - unreleased
COLOR - The Steeles / 1-800-NEW-FUNK
COURTIN TIME - prince / Emancipation
DA, DA, DA - prince / Emancipation
DADDY NEVER LEFT YA - unknown
DO YOUR HOMEWORK - unknown
DREAM - unknown
FLUTESTRAMENTAL - Prince & the NPG / Gett Off maxi single
FUN - Carmen Electra / Carmen Electra
GET YOURSELF TOGETHER (PARTS 1 & 2) - unknown
HEY U - unknown
HOLD ME - Jevetta Steele / Here It Is*
HOUSE IN ORDER - Mavis Staples / The Voice
HOW DEEP - unknown
HOWEVER MUCH YOU WANT - Mayte / Child Of The Sun
HUMAN BODY (THE) - prince / Emancipation
I'M A DJ (Eye Am The DJ) - unreleased*
IF THE KID CAN'T MAKE YOU COME - The Time / Ice Cream Castle
KALIFORNIA - unknown
KUM FOLLOW ME - unknown
LAST HEART - Prince / Crystal Ball
LUBRICATED LADY THE - Prince / N.P.G. maxi single
MAKE BELIEVE - unreleased*
MAKE IT THROUGH THE STORM - unreleased*
MAKE YOUR MAMA HAPPY - Prince / Crystal Ball
MOVE ME - unknown
MR. HAPPY - prince / Emancipation
N.Y. SLAMS - unknown
NOBODY LOVES ME - unknown
P, THE - unreleased*
PARIS 17984302 - Tevin Campbell / I'm Ready
PURPOSE IN YOUR LIFE - unknown
RAP LIFE - unknown
REST OF MY LIFE - Prince / The Vault... Old Friends 4 Sale
RHYTHM OF YOUR HEART THE - Mayte / Child Of The Sun
ROCK 'DAT ASS - unknown
SATANDING AT THE ALTER - Margie Cox / 1-800-NEW-FUNK
SCHOOLYARD - unreleased*
SEVEN CORNERS - Ingrid Chavez (unreleased, tho does appear in Graffiti Bridge movie)
SEXY STAXAPHONE AND GUITAR - prince / The Beautiful Experience EP
SHE'S JUST A BABY - unreleased*
SKIP TO MY YOU MY DARLING - Jevetta Steele / Here It Is
SKYS THE LIMIT THE - unknown
SUPER HERO - Earth Wind & Fire / Millennium*
TELEPATHY - Deborah Allen / Telepathy
THINGS HAVE GOTTA CHANGE - Prince & the NPG / Cream maxi single
U WANT ME - unreleased (tho does appear on Prince live at the Alladin DVD)
U'RE ALL I WANT - unknown
WELL DONE - The Steeles / Heaven Help Us All*
XENOPHOBIA - Prince / One Nite Alone... Live!

[Edited 4/21/05 17:31pm]
Check out Chocadelica , updated with Lotusflow3r and MPLSound album lyrics April 2nd 2009 :
http://homepage.ntlworld....home2.html
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Reply #9 posted 04/21/05 5:39pm

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Papaj said:

Thx, Boris! You'v got some knowledge, dude! But still, some o these songs are unknown... Why would Prince register tunes he didn't intend to release?


because, all that glitters aint gold and it aint always 4 everyone neither. some of that stuff he probly was just in the studio havin fun with (like extra loveable)or some of it like (this mysterious ass wally) coulda be theraputic 4 him
Yesterday is dead...tomorrow hasnt arrived yet....i have just ONE day...
...And i'm gonna be groovy in it!
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Reply #10 posted 04/21/05 6:39pm

billymeade

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the "unknown" songs may just contain Prince samples, not necessarily be Prince songs
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Reply #11 posted 04/21/05 9:11pm

Papaj

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billymeade said:

the "unknown" songs may just contain Prince samples, not necessarily be Prince songs


They are not. The sole writer / author of them is Prince and they are administered exclusively by Controversy Music almost in every case.
We Can Funk
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Reply #12 posted 04/22/05 2:59am

metalorange

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Pretty interesting info, thanks. Cutting out released and ones that have been heard one way or another, that still leaves:

5 FOOT CITY - unknown
AMERICAN IN PARIS - unreleased
ARE U WID IT? - unknown
BE MY MIRROR - unreleased
BIG TALL WALL - unreleased
BODY - unknown
BY ALIEN MEANS - unreleased
CAUGHT BETWEEN TWO LOVERS - unreleased
DADDY NEVER LEFT YA - unknown
DO YOUR HOMEWORK - unknown
DREAM - unknown
GET YOURSELF TOGETHER (PARTS 1 & 2) - unknown
HEY U - unknown
HOW DEEP - unknown
I'M A DJ (Eye Am The DJ) - unreleased
KALIFORNIA - unknown
KUM FOLLOW ME - unknown
MAKE BELIEVE - unreleased
MAKE IT THROUGH THE STORM - unreleased
MOVE ME - unknown
N.Y. SLAMS - unknown
NOBODY LOVES ME - unknown
P, THE - unreleased
PURPOSE IN YOUR LIFE - unknown
RAP LIFE - unknown
ROCK 'DAT ASS - unknown
SCHOOLYARD - unreleased
SHE'S JUST A BABY - unreleased
SKYS THE LIMIT THE - unknown
U'RE ALL I WANT - unknown

I know for a fact that at least 7 or so of those are circulating as bootlegs. Doesn't it give dates? I wonder when was the last time Prince registered an unreleased song.
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Reply #13 posted 04/22/05 3:58am

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Well from Metalorange's edited list from above, several of those unreleased are from the 80s (70s even). This isn't solely a list of 90s/00s songs (as many will know).

Just to expound on what Boris said above regarding the drying up of leaks and info from PP.

Prince tightened up security and staff at PP. at this time (1996) which accounts for the distinct lack of unreleased material seeping into the fanbase after this time (what little has come out has been a tiny trickle of the odd song here or there, or material previously uncirculating, but recorded *before* 1996 - for example the Gold-era and Poet 99 stuff that recently entered circulation - which means it most likely came from people holding out on the stuff, or just discovered it from a source, other than PP).

Beyond unreleased music actually getting out, another shame in all this is the fact that information on exactly what has been recorded is scant.
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Reply #14 posted 04/22/05 4:11am

metalorange

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At least it stops fans thirsting for songs based purely on the name and saying, why haven't you released blah-blah from the vault yet?!

But my point was, the songs registered on ascap are not leaks - they are Prince protecting his copyrights, I can only assume in case they do leak out and someone else claims they wrote them. If he's stopped bothering to register newly created songs, then it would appear he's pretty confident they won't leak out these days.

MetroArea said:

Well from Metalorange's edited list from above, several of those unreleased are from the 80s (70s even). This isn't solely a list of 90s/00s songs (as many will know).

Just to expound on what Boris said above regarding the drying up of leaks and info from PP.

Prince tightened up security and staff at PP. at this time (1996) which accounts for the distinct lack of unreleased material seeping into the fanbase after this time (what little has come out has been a tiny trickle of the odd song here or there, or material previously uncirculating, but recorded *before* 1996 - for example the Gold-era and Poet 99 stuff that recently entered circulation - which means it most likely came from people holding out on the stuff, or just discovered it from a source, other than PP).

Beyond unreleased music actually getting out, another shame in all this is the fact that information on exactly what has been recorded is scant.
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Reply #15 posted 04/22/05 7:21am

origmnd

Are there dates for the musicology tracks?

The majority must be old tracks
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Reply #16 posted 04/22/05 12:17pm

MetroArea

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origmnd said:


The majority must be old tracks


What makes you think that, other than Prince's singular comment that one or two of the tracks may be older?

One or two of the tracks sound like they could be from the 94/95 period, and a couple more from 97/99 - other than that I imagine they are all relatively new, from the past couple of years, definately nothing older than 93/94.
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