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Reply #30 posted 04/14/05 11:01am

Eroticist

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"Scandalous" -- Nuff said. Pussy-gettin' jams are ALWAYS gonna rank high on this Prince fan's list! wink

But "Chaos and Disorder" ...That album? It sounds EXACTLY LIKE THE TITLE! LMAO! THAT album should be shot, shitted on and shelved!
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Reply #31 posted 04/14/05 11:11am

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Arms of Orion is beautiful! I don't understand why Prince fans always diss, not necessarily the album, but this song (often along with Lemon Crush, which is another favourite). Sure, it's not street-cool or serious or raw, but it's lyrically beautiful, sounds harmonic and Princes and Sheenas voices sound really pure and clear, like ice-cold spring water on hot summer skin.

WHY can't he be allowed to do a pure ballad, like Arms Of Orion or Diamonds and Pearls without everyone jumping on the walls here?

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Reply #32 posted 04/14/05 11:21am

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Sirah said:


WHY can't he be allowed to do a pure ballad, like Arms Of Orion or Diamonds and Pearls without everyone jumping on the walls here?

-S-


Are they "Sugarwalls?" lol
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Reply #33 posted 04/14/05 11:28am

Anxiety

Eroticist said:

"Scandalous" -- Nuff said. Pussy-gettin' jams are ALWAYS gonna rank high on this Prince fan's list! wink

But "Chaos and Disorder" ...That album? It sounds EXACTLY LIKE THE TITLE! LMAO! THAT album should be shot, shitted on and shelved!


save the debris for me, then. i love that album.
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Reply #34 posted 04/14/05 11:33am

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Anxiety said:

Eroticist said:

"Scandalous" -- Nuff said. Pussy-gettin' jams are ALWAYS gonna rank high on this Prince fan's list! wink

But "Chaos and Disorder" ...That album? It sounds EXACTLY LIKE THE TITLE! LMAO! THAT album should be shot, shitted on and shelved!


save the debris for me, then. i love that album.


Yuck. Prince threw that out there as his final obligation to the Warner Plantation and you can tell he didn't give a shit about the content.
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Reply #35 posted 04/14/05 11:35am

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Reply #36 posted 04/14/05 11:45am

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Batman was a breath of fresh air.
It was the first record a few few years that took Prince back to a more polished and solid sound. At that time period, although his music was good, it was always littered with too many sounds and sometimes sounded extremely messy.
It did great on the charts too...it was his last great record.
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Reply #37 posted 04/14/05 11:59am

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mschirmer said:

Batman was a breath of fresh air.
It was the first record a few few years that took Prince back to a more polished and solid sound. At that time period, although his music was good, it was always littered with too many sounds and sometimes sounded extremely messy.
It did great on the charts too...it was his last great record.


disbelief Considering that the several albums leading up to it are Parade, Sign O The Times, "The Black Album" and Lovesexy, I cannot see how a sub-par disc like Batman could be considered a "breath of fresh air" after those brilliant, far superior works
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Reply #38 posted 04/14/05 1:16pm

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mschirmer said:

Batman was a breath of fresh air.
It was the first record a few few years that took Prince back to a more polished and solid sound. At that time period, although his music was good, it was always littered with too many sounds and sometimes sounded extremely messy.
It did great on the charts too...it was his last great record.


I understand what U are saying here...
After Lovesexy-one of his best off course- this was an album
U could play in presence of non-Prince fans without them complaining
about"what's that noise??".
Some off them even compaired it with PR,the polished sound,NOT the quality
of the songs.It was indeed the Prince sound that was expected at that time.
Not so intressting 4 the fans but just a great"mainstream"Prince album.
Indeed,his last album with that 80's feel 2 it and when GB came out,
nobody expected he could still deliver such a hit album like Batman,
until D&P came out.With the leftovers on the Symbol album,
the end of the Prince sound we all knew so well.....
Love4oneanother
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Reply #39 posted 04/14/05 1:22pm

TheSchrank

mschirmer said:

Batman was a breath of fresh air.
It was the first record a few few years that took Prince back to a more polished and solid sound. At that time period, although his music was good, it was always littered with too many sounds and sometimes sounded extremely messy.
It did great on the charts too...it was his last great record.


Sorry, I don´t agree. Especially Parade but also signottimes has so many pure songs with few instruments and a clear arrangement. I remember a critic after lovesexy asking: "From 1999 till lovesexy, every album a new style. What´s left for a new album." Unfortunateley he was right. Batman has a polished sound - and is aseptic. I hear every two years and that´s enough. However Partyman is pretty funky and electric chair has a great guitar solo.

Batman was very succesfull, is better than 2 or 3 albums (with no doubt: Chaos and Disorder).
Underrated? No! Last great record??? No! No! 1991! 1996! 2004-downloads!
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Reply #40 posted 04/14/05 1:23pm

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JediMaster said:

It was the first time I was truly dissapointed in a Prince album. Its mostly filler, with lackluster songs. Most of the songs on this album sound like Prince really didn't try at all. A collection of half-baked outtakes that weren't worthy of b-side status.


Co-sign.

I think this was the first album that saw Prince not really try much.

Most of the songs are sub-par and sound like rough ideas for songs.
The world is a comedy for those who think and a tragedy for those who feel.

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Reply #41 posted 04/14/05 1:26pm

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I think this was the first album that saw Prince not really try much.



So what was "Chaos and Disorder" then? LOL!
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Reply #42 posted 04/14/05 1:28pm

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Ummm, regardless of your opinion of C&D, Batman came out years before it.

LOLZORS!11
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Reply #43 posted 04/14/05 1:38pm

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PurpleKnight said:

Ummm, regardless of your opinion of C&D, Batman came out years before it.

LOLZORS!11



Good for you. However, I disagree. Seems like he tried pretty damn well on "Batman" though. I mean, hell, he HAD a theme he was adhering to and he did a pretty damn good job with it.

"Chaos & Disorder" - Was EXACTLY that. Prince didn't give a shit at that point and it musically shows. It was weak.
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Reply #44 posted 04/14/05 1:59pm

Anxiety

Eroticist said:

PurpleKnight said:

Ummm, regardless of your opinion of C&D, Batman came out years before it.

LOLZORS!11



Good for you. However, I disagree. Seems like he tried pretty damn well on "Batman" though. I mean, hell, he HAD a theme he was adhering to and he did a pretty damn good job with it.

"Chaos & Disorder" - Was EXACTLY that. Prince didn't give a shit at that point and it musically shows. It was weak.


one day, my friend, you are going to be extremely bored. you'll thumb through your music collection and you'll come across 'chaos & disorder' and decide to give it one more spin, just as a last chance, just for chuckles because you have nothing else to do.

and on that day, 'chaos & disorder' will kick your ass. i guaranfrickintee it. nod

till then - whatevs. you're right. worst album ever. giggle
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Reply #45 posted 04/14/05 2:03pm

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Anxiety said:

Eroticist said:




Good for you. However, I disagree. Seems like he tried pretty damn well on "Batman" though. I mean, hell, he HAD a theme he was adhering to and he did a pretty damn good job with it.

"Chaos & Disorder" - Was EXACTLY that. Prince didn't give a shit at that point and it musically shows. It was weak.


one day, my friend, you are going to be extremely bored. you'll thumb through your music collection and you'll come across 'chaos & disorder' and decide to give it one more spin, just as a last chance, just for chuckles because you have nothing else to do.

and on that day, 'chaos & disorder' will kick your ass. i guaranfrickintee it. nod

till then - whatevs. you're right. worst album ever. giggle



If it EVER gets to that point...I'll go and live at Neverland Ranch! LMAO!
Desire, it covers our faces
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Your body, it covers my tower
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Reply #46 posted 04/14/05 2:08pm

Anxiety

Eroticist said:

Anxiety said:



one day, my friend, you are going to be extremely bored. you'll thumb through your music collection and you'll come across 'chaos & disorder' and decide to give it one more spin, just as a last chance, just for chuckles because you have nothing else to do.

and on that day, 'chaos & disorder' will kick your ass. i guaranfrickintee it. nod

till then - whatevs. you're right. worst album ever. giggle



If it EVER gets to that point...I'll go and live at Neverland Ranch! LMAO!


hope you like jesus juice. lol
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Reply #47 posted 04/14/05 2:27pm

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Anxiety said:

Eroticist said:




If it EVER gets to that point...I'll go and live at Neverland Ranch! LMAO!


hope you like jesus juice. lol


LMAO! GOOD ONE!
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Reply #48 posted 04/14/05 4:30pm

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I don't think it's underrated as a whole. If you put crap like Lemon Crush and Trust on an album it will detract from the rest of it. I don't mind Arms of Orion. Songs like Future, Electric Chair, Scandalous, Vicki Waiting, and Batdance make this a good album though.
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Reply #49 posted 04/14/05 6:09pm

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JediMaster said:

EvilWhiteMale said:

It was his last solid album.


I would hardly call it "solid". Its weaker than 75% of his 90s output. I put it barely a scratch above New Power Soul


Solid, because I didn't wear out the skip button like I did for the later albums.
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Reply #50 posted 04/14/05 7:06pm

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This thread was a good read. I don't think "Batman" is underrated, but it is certainly overlooked.

I know "Batman" has been brought up on occasion, but I haven't seen a real debate about it like this thread in a long time. Maybe I've just overlooked them. giggle

ALMOST makes me want to dig it up and listen to it, but now that I think about it, I may not have it on cd...only on lp.

But Prince's picture on the lp is one of my favorites thumbs up!

Prince - Batman promo photo (1989)

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Reply #51 posted 04/14/05 7:51pm

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EvilWhiteMale said:

JediMaster said:



I would hardly call it "solid". Its weaker than 75% of his 90s output. I put it barely a scratch above New Power Soul


Solid, because I didn't wear out the skip button like I did for the later albums.


You didn't skip The Arms of Orion? That song is SHIT.
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Reply #52 posted 04/14/05 8:00pm

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If you like:

1999 & Purple Rain. The Batman CD is the next in that vein. It's the next level to that vibe. cool
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Reply #53 posted 04/14/05 8:01pm

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ElectricBlue said:

If you like:

1999 & Purple Rain. The Batman CD is the next in that vein. It's the next level to that vibe. cool


Except 1999 & Purple Rain are 400 times better.
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Reply #54 posted 04/14/05 8:48pm

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PurpleKnight said:

EvilWhiteMale said:



Solid, because I didn't wear out the skip button like I did for the later albums.


You didn't skip The Arms of Orion? That song is SHIT.


It's not great, but I can tollerate it. I CAN'T tollerate Jughead, We March, I Rock, Therfore I Am, etc.
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Reply #55 posted 04/14/05 9:51pm

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Best album that came out after "Purple Rain".
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Reply #56 posted 04/14/05 9:56pm

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DavidEye said:

I love this album too.I can't understand why so many people say Prince "sold out" when he made this album.Yeah,the music is commercial but it's still a solid album.Every song is very good,especially "The Future","Partyman","Vicki Waiting","Lemon Crush" and "Batdance".


Exactly. I liked it when Prince did commercial music back when commercial music was still good. This album reminded me a little of the "old Prince", except not as strong.
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Reply #57 posted 04/14/05 9:58pm

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EvilWhiteMale said:

It was his last solid album.


Yep.
Andy is a four letter word.
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Reply #58 posted 04/15/05 12:12am

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Maybe it should be universally agreed that there are more good songs on "Batman" than there is on "Graffiti Bridge", at the very least?



I agree.'Batman' is the better album,imo.
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Reply #59 posted 04/15/05 12:18am

DavidEye

I like "The Arms Of Orion" boxed

I like every song on 'Batman' but I have to admit,the song "Lemon Crush" doesn't really fit.It sounds out of place and it's the only song that doesn't really fit the theme of the album.Perhaps he should have replaced it with either "Rave Unto The Joy Fantastic" or "Dance With The Devil"?

"Lemon Crush" could have been a B-side,or placed on a future album.
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