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PrintableAsianBomb777 said: klhk said: This is the wittiest post I've read all year!  I mean--come on! Just cuase he's toned down his girly man persona for this new Jehova-Pimp thing, doesn't mean he's got to now try to verbally assert this whole "OH--I ain't in 2 guys" bullshit when 99.999% of Prince fans are either gay or want to be gay--that shit is not right. It's bad enough I have to be buddhist and sit through "Ya'll know about the lord??" bullshit.  Well don't it's simple, Ure wanting Prince 2 be GAY doesn't make it so and if u don't want him talkin bout the Lord.....then listen 2 sumone else that shares ure narrow point of view. Luminous beings are we...not this crude matter.
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I am not gay either, however, I have had sexual experiences with women. People can experiment with their sexuality. I believe that Prince probably has done some type of experimentation. It doesn't matter to me what his preferrence is I love him the way he is. | |
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I think with this topic it's basicly the same as with all others... because of the man being so diverse, so complex in every way ( well, not every way according to some  ) and we, his fanbase also being very diverse, most people naturally lock in on "their" ideal version of him. And when you do so, facts & fiction about "other" prince's are gonna interfere with your painted picture.
In this case, I think both the gay and the straight folks here see it too black and white... I do believe there's a vast gray area in between... like the ( milked ) "being in touch with your feminine / masculine side". Add to this the rich history of androgeny in black music, and the musical and cultural openness and experimenting during the time that he laid his own musical base, plus his own known character  , and I think u have a man that is - in these, let's face it, in general less culturally & musically interesting or enriching times - eagerly looking for something to influence him, or even give him cachet in present days.
And yes, I agree that the influence of narrow minded "leaders" of ALL beliefs ( even if they play great bass ) is very troublesome, not only with Prince but also with some of his followers. Some of the quotes supposedly from P here are sad indeed fucked up, but what's the chance of a man like this also being a nice guy  I think with him it's very much a "do as I say, not as I do" - thing.
Aah, wasn't it great back in the days when he clouded himself more in mysteries... and we had nothing to disrupt the image of "our" Prince... and moreover: when we ( orgers to be ) were sooo cool becuz' we had SOME sparse info... Ain't that what frustrates a lot of the "oldies" amongst us now... sparkle to a lot of flaming...
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rudeboynpg said: klhk said: If I could just convince Larry Grahm to convert to regular Christainity Prince would do the same and he would loosen his morals and embrace an open life with his life partner L. Londell McMillian. It's just sad that Prince can't have a friend, or even a attorney without them geting called gay. U ignore the fact that he is always with woman.  I have gay male friends who are always with women too but they are very much gay. Haters travel in packs and they are offended or threatened by klhk, haters express intense hostility toward the subject of hate. Haters are annoyed and roll thier eyes when klhk is paid a compliment. ask yourself, are u a hater? | |
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I have gay male friends who are always with women too but they are very much gay.[/quote]
I know many guys who are not gay but like to hang out with them 'cuz they're often a lot more straightforward and open than a lot of the frustrated hetero's. Point of this all being - nothing? _____ Hit me | |
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GuardianAngel said: I have gay male friends who are always with women too but they are very much gay.
I know many guys who are not gay but like to hang out with them 'cuz they're often a lot more straightforward and open than a lot of the frustrated hetero's. Point of this all being - nothing? _____ Hit me[/quote] no, she means she knows straight guys that bang guys on the dl but tell everyone they are straight...not that i think prince is gay or anything...just clarifying... Space for sale... | |
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jayaredee said: His religion may be against homosexuality, but he hasn't publicly said anything.... As far as I know he hasn't publicly said anything, but... At the second Madison Square Garden show this summer (was it July 13), he played "Bambi". Now while I'd normally S**T kittens to hear that live, if you remember, that was the same week that the Congress was voting on that constitutional ammendment to ban gay marriage. Playing an obscure 25 year old song that hasn't been in your set-list for years about how the lesbian would be better off with some good old-fashioned D**K sure seems like a statement to me. peace, AT | |
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sosgemini said: GuardianAngel said: I have gay male friends who are always with women too but they are very much gay.
I know many guys who are not gay but like to hang out with them 'cuz they're often a lot more straightforward and open than a lot of the frustrated hetero's. Point of this all being - nothing? _____ Hit me no, she means she knows straight guys that bang guys on the dl but tell everyone they are straight...not that i think prince is gay or anything...just clarifying...[/quote] Oh my God, I'm shocked!!! My friends are gay!  | |
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sosgemini said: TonyVanDam said: If we (counting Prince) are not able to show mercy or forgiveness to other people, how do we expect for Yahweh to show mercy or forgiveness to us? I bet Prince thinks about this a lot. Am I wrong?  im far less forgiving of Wendy for wearing those shoes with that outfit... heres the deal folks, wendy (and lisa) have forgiven prince for his statements so i think its best for us all to move on too... but those shoes?
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vivid said: TonyVanDam said: Prince suppose to have told Bobby Z this in front of Larry. It was all a good laugh except Bobby wasn't laughing at all. According to Wendy he also said directly to her that she and Lisa would have to apologize for their lifestyle before there could be any reunion. This was a few years back though, and he does seem to have softened somewhat since. Let's hope it was just a blip. I've had some anti-gay moments myself, mind you, that was when some fella wet my bed. No, Wendy said that was a response she got from someone at Paisley Park. She was never sure if it came from Prince or someone in his employ. I think Prince may have taken an anti-homosexual stance when he first started studying with the JWs, but as time went on, and he got deeper into it he changed his stance. He's obviously cool with it now, since he invited Wendy to play with him on Tavis Smiley. Likewise, Wendy said he was sweet and lovign to her. As for the comments about holding hands with Stevie, he was obviously being playful, and relating how it goes against pre-conceived notions. For ANY heterosexual man, it would seem a bit odd to be holding hands with another man (if he were truly closet, wouldn't he have jerked his hand away and been pissy about it?). He realised that, for Stevie, this was a way to connect with someone and "see" their reactions. Prince was expressing respect for Stevie, and being a bit silly about the fact that he was holding hands with a man. 
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Since Calhoun Square hasn't posted this yet, I'll say it for her:
Not this again! 
Prince is MARRIED, idiots. Several women have commented about him sexually publicly. He screws WOMEN. Gay men screw MEN. This is so TIRED. Back to the original topic: It would seem quite clear to some how he feels about homosexuality; the same way he felt when he wrote "Bambi". He feels its wrong. I know so many are in denial of this, but it seems pretty obvious to me. At one point he seemed indecisive about the topic as a whole but basically thought it was wrong; now he has decided that he's not "down with gays". The real question is what does it matter what an entertainer thinks? Why do homosexuals care so much about what we "breeders" think about your lifestyles? I keep my nose out of other folks' bedrooms, so it doesn't matter to me who anyone else is screwing. If I ain't screwing them, it doesn't concern me. I think all hets should adopt this attitude, then there would be no gay controversy and folks could mind their own damn business. We're becoming a society of busybodies. | |
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rudeboynpg said: Glam Rock/androgyny was part of Rock n Roll in the 80s, that does not make him gay or bi.
Are they gay or bi? They look girlie.  ----- I have never been able to figure out way other artist back in the 80's and even now got a past on the gay thing and now P. He is and was not the only artist fooling with Androgyny. In addtion, I hope all of you realize that all Chritian denominations are against Homosexuality. Unfortunatly, you should love people and dislike their behavior and a lot of denominations just don't work they way they should. | |
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BlaqueKnight said: Since Calhoun Square hasn't posted this yet, I'll say it for her:
Not this again!
Prince is MARRIED, idiots. Several women have commented about him sexually publicly. He screws WOMEN. Gay men screw MEN. This is so TIRED. Back to the original topic: It would seem quite clear to some how he feels about homosexuality; the same way he felt when he wrote "Bambi". He feels its wrong. I know so many are in denial of this, but it seems pretty obvious to me. At one point he seemed indecisive about the topic as a whole but basically thought it was wrong; now he has decided that he's not "down with gays". The real question is what does it matter what an entertainer thinks? Why do homosexuals care so much about what we "breeders" think about your lifestyles? I keep my nose out of other folks' bedrooms, so it doesn't matter to me who anyone else is screwing. If I ain't screwing them, it doesn't concern me. I think all hets should adopt this attitude, then there would be no gay controversy and folks could mind their own damn business. We're becoming a society of busybodies. ----- Co-Sing.Who care what someone does in their own home. TMI | |
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vivid said: TonyVanDam said: Prince suppose to have told Bobby Z this in front of Larry. It was all a good laugh except Bobby wasn't laughing at all. According to Wendy he also said directly to her that she and Lisa would have to apologize for their lifestyle before there could be any reunion. This was a few years back though, and he does seem to have softened somewhat since. Let's hope it was just a blip. I've had some anti-gay moments myself, mind you, that was when some fella wet my bed. ----- Yes, well this came from that Possesed book and a lot of people interviewed are now saying they were mis-quouted. Then we see Wendy performing with P at the Essence Festival and on Tavis Smiley. I got to doubt the comment. | |
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rudeboynpg said: vainandy said: I read that book. It also said Prince kept his privacy, even from his band members. It does mention a homophobic rant between Prince and Larry Graham though. It also said that Prince is a womanizer. Dr. Matt Fink said that Prince and Wendy were fighting alot at rehearsals on the Parade tour. Wendy was unhappy about Prince's relationship with Susannah because Prince was seeing other women, and she didn't like having her sister in the band. She also didn't want another guitarist in the band, Miko Weaver. Prince said "U fucking lesbians, you're going to hell for your lifestyle!" Wendy said "You're a fucking womanizer. You're such a prick and a control freak. You're just a womanizing pig."  ----- Don't be surprised if certain people on this board will believe the anti-gay comments and not the womanizing pig comments. Both came from the same book | |
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BlaqueKnight said: Since Calhoun Square hasn't posted this yet, I'll say it for her:
Not this again!
Prince is MARRIED, idiots. Several women have commented about him sexually publicly. He screws WOMEN. Gay men screw MEN. This is so TIRED. Back to the original topic: It would seem quite clear to some how he feels about homosexuality; the same way he felt when he wrote "Bambi". He feels its wrong. I know so many are in denial of this, but it seems pretty obvious to me. At one point he seemed indecisive about the topic as a whole but basically thought it was wrong; now he has decided that he's not "down with gays". The real question is what does it matter what an entertainer thinks? Why do homosexuals care so much about what we "breeders" think about your lifestyles? I keep my nose out of other folks' bedrooms, so it doesn't matter to me who anyone else is screwing. If I ain't screwing them, it doesn't concern me. I think all hets should adopt this attitude, then there would be no gay controversy and folks could mind their own damn business. We're becoming a society of busybodies. for the record its not us homosexuals questioning.....the guys a freaken superstar..this entire fucking website is designed to pick and poke at every aspect of his life/career. so dont make this one thread into an observation about our society... thats reaching.. Space for sale... | |
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glamslamkid said: marto said: Prince said in an interview
1 my name is prince two im not gay and three im not jamie starr Just like i said. DENIAL. What made him think he needed to say that? IF he was as secure with his sexuality as he made it seem, he shouldn't have felt to have needed to say that. ----- He said it because he was asked. Don't you guys think that someone would have outed all boy by this time. He has pissed off some many people. I can't imagine he could keep it a secret. | |
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laurarichardson said: glamslamkid said: Just like i said. DENIAL. What made him think he needed to say that? IF he was as secure with his sexuality as he made it seem, he shouldn't have felt to have needed to say that. ----- He said it because he was asked. Don't you guys think that someone would have outed all boy by this time. He has pissed off some many people. I can't imagine he could keep it a secret. Prince is private. You have to sign contracts and keep secrets if u wanna work with him. I'm sure he keeps even his work and home private. But one day the secrets will come out and klhk will be there.  Haters travel in packs and they are offended or threatened by klhk, haters express intense hostility toward the subject of hate. Haters are annoyed and roll thier eyes when klhk is paid a compliment. ask yourself, are u a hater? | |
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laurarichardson said: rudeboynpg said: Glam Rock/androgyny was part of Rock n Roll in the 80s, that does not make him gay or bi.
Are they gay or bi? They look girlie. ----- I have never been able to figure out way other artist back in the 80's and even now got a past on the gay thing and now P. He is and was not the only artist fooling with Androgyny. In addtion, I hope all of you realize that all Chritian denominations are against Homosexuality. Unfortunatly, you should love people and dislike their behavior and a lot of denominations just don't work they way they should. ACTUALLY Christian religions are against Heterosexuals engaging in Homosexual acts. If you're not gay, don't do gay shit. Basically. And "loving people but disliking their actions" sounds like judging to me, which, last time I checked, the bible says not to do. You got your shit screwed up buddy. GlamSlamKid...The resident clown on Prince.orgy
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vainandy said: Yeah. One of the Revolution members went to see Prince about a possible reunion of the Revolution. Prince and Larry were saying there would never be a reunion until Wendy and Lisa public apologize and renounce their homosexuality. well what the hell does Larry have to do with anything that the revolution does??? I will forever love and miss you...my sweet Prince. | |
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BlaqueKnight said: Since Calhoun Square hasn't posted this yet, I'll say it for her:
Not this again!
Prince is MARRIED, idiots. Several women have commented about him sexually publicly. He screws WOMEN. Gay men screw MEN. This is so TIRED. Back to the original topic: It would seem quite clear to some how he feels about homosexuality; the same way he felt when he wrote "Bambi". He feels its wrong. I know so many are in denial of this, but it seems pretty obvious to me. At one point he seemed indecisive about the topic as a whole but basically thought it was wrong; now he has decided that he's not "down with gays". The real question is what does it matter what an entertainer thinks? Why do homosexuals care so much about what we "breeders" think about your lifestyles? I keep my nose out of other folks' bedrooms, so it doesn't matter to me who anyone else is screwing. If I ain't screwing them, it doesn't concern me. I think all hets should adopt this attitude, then there would be no gay controversy and folks could mind their own damn business. We're becoming a society of busybodies. Okay, no disrespect but now I'm pissed. TO ME HOMOSEXUALITY IS NOT ABOUT THE BEDROOM. Why do people always revert to that. I'm gay when I'm not having sex. I knew I was gay because I fell in love with a man. I tried with a woman but there was nothing there but deep respect. Gay 101 over and over and over.... For the record I don't think Prince is gay. I just wanted to know how he feels about it.  MyeternalgrattitudetoPhil&Val.Herman said "We want sweaty truckers at the truck stop! We want cigar puffing men that look like they wanna beat the living daylights out of us" Val"sporking is spooning with benefits" | |
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MIGUELGOMEZ said: BlaqueKnight said: Since Calhoun Square hasn't posted this yet, I'll say it for her:
Not this again!
Prince is MARRIED, idiots. Several women have commented about him sexually publicly. He screws WOMEN. Gay men screw MEN. This is so TIRED. Back to the original topic: It would seem quite clear to some how he feels about homosexuality; the same way he felt when he wrote "Bambi". He feels its wrong. I know so many are in denial of this, but it seems pretty obvious to me. At one point he seemed indecisive about the topic as a whole but basically thought it was wrong; now he has decided that he's not "down with gays". The real question is what does it matter what an entertainer thinks? Why do homosexuals care so much about what we "breeders" think about your lifestyles? I keep my nose out of other folks' bedrooms, so it doesn't matter to me who anyone else is screwing. If I ain't screwing them, it doesn't concern me. I think all hets should adopt this attitude, then there would be no gay controversy and folks could mind their own damn business. We're becoming a society of busybodies. Okay, no disrespect but now I'm pissed. TO ME HOMOSEXUALITY IS NOT ABOUT THE BEDROOM. Why do people always revert to that. I'm gay when I'm not having sex. I knew I was gay because I fell in love with a man. I tried with a woman but there was nothing there but deep respect. Gay 101 over and over and over.... For the record I don't think Prince is gay. I just wanted to know how he feels about it.  I am sick of it, too. God knows that's all I think when I think of the heteros. 
Your question is a very valid one, Miguel. I used to ask myslef it alot once he became one of Jehovah's Witnesses because I do not listen to people's music who have anything against gay people period, and I didn't care that I had been listening to the guy for over twenty years. I don't think Prince has really addressed it in print but he has with his actions: He went on Ellen's show and he performed with Wendy on Tavis's show. It may not be a lot, but to me, it is enough. Prince has nothing against gay people. | |
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I'm not a retard, nor do I slobber. I don't think that Prince is gay or has ever had homo relations. Anything is possible in life, but I doubt it. Sorry I just can't see it. It has always amused me how people assume that Prince is gay or bi because of superficial things like his style of dress or make-up and hair. Then people are shocked when someone like Pete Townsend comes out. One need only look at the way that Prince interacts with women (not sexaully either)to see that he's not gay. Prince is a man who LOVES women - the gender, the complexity, the beauty, the wonder - you can see it in his eyes and energy when he is around women. It's in the songs that he writes. perfection is a fallacy of the imagination... | |
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bellanoche said: I'm not a retard, nor do I slobber. I don't think that Prince is gay or has ever had homo relations. Anything is possible in life, but I doubt it. Sorry I just can't see it. It has always amused me how people assume that Prince is gay or bi because of superficial things like his style of dress or make-up and hair. Then people are shocked when someone like Pete Townsend comes out. One need only look at the way that Prince interacts with women (not sexaully either)to see that he's not gay. Prince is a man who LOVES women - the gender, the complexity, the beauty, the wonder - you can see it in his eyes and energy when he is around women. It's in the songs that he writes.
How do we know he wouldn't be the same way around men? I think there's another story behind him not appearing in MJ's Bad video..... GlamSlamKid...The resident clown on Prince.orgy
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bellanoche said: I'm not a retard, nor do I slobber. I don't think that Prince is gay or has ever had homo relations. Anything is possible in life, but I doubt it. Sorry I just can't see it. It has always amused me how people assume that Prince is gay or bi because of superficial things like his style of dress or make-up and hair. Then people are shocked when someone like Pete Townsend comes out. One need only look at the way that Prince interacts with women (not sexaully either)to see that he's not gay. Prince is a man who LOVES women - the gender, the complexity, the beauty, the wonder - you can see it in his eyes and energy when he is around women. It's in the songs that he writes. Yeah, but he has also written songs about being a girl or boy, too and has said in the past that there was another person living in him that he didn't know what the sex of that person was. I see your points though and for the record I don't believe Prince is gay or has ever been gay.
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I haven't read all the replies to this topic but all I have to say is "different strokes for different folks" I don't have a problem with consenting adults doing what they do, the operative word is Adult. "What floats your boat" | |
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rudeboynpg said: klhk said: I have that magazine article too and you got it all screwed up. IMO, I think you have to be a slobbering cock eyed retard to not believe that Prince has had homo relations in the past. I'm just saying! 
[Edited 3/30/05 14:03pm] Do u really believe that shit? It's just sad that some people can't accept the fact the Prince is straight. All jokes aside, I know that Prince is a very straight black man. Even with bisexual overtones in his past image, Prince always had excellent taste in the women he dated. I still believe Mayte was THE best of those women!!! | |
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If Prince ever had a definite opinion on homosexuality, I think he would have stated it loud and clear. People who despise homosexual behavior never seem to have a problem preaching it, and vice versa.
If prince doesnt want to pick a side and participate in that catfight, thats his business. I've never really seen or heard him attack anyone for being gay, and most of the reported comments are several generations of heresay, so it's hard to even take those seriously. I also think the Stevie Wonder thing was a joke and nothing more. If Prince was that insecure about his sexuality, we would have never seen him dressing like a transvestite for most of his career. | |
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bellanoche said: I'm not a retard, nor do I slobber. I don't think that Prince is gay or has ever had homo relations. Anything is possible in life, but I doubt it. Sorry I just can't see it. It has always amused me how people assume that Prince is gay or bi because of superficial things like his style of dress or make-up and hair. Then people are shocked when someone like Pete Townsend comes out. One need only look at the way that Prince interacts with women (not sexaully either)to see that he's not gay. Prince is a man who LOVES women - the gender, the complexity, the beauty, the wonder - you can see it in his eyes and energy when he is around women. It's in the songs that he writes.
Agreed. Prince is the quintessential Metrosexual. In fact, it really helped me when I was growing up to have a hero like him. I wasn't a "macho" kinda guy, but I knew I was attracted to women, and not at all to men. Prince helped me feel okay about that, since here was a guy in makeup and high heels who was obviously all about women. Ultimately, it wouldn't make a difference if he was gay, but I think the speculation is pretty funny considering the lyrics to "Controversy": "I just can't believe all the things people say..."
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