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Thread started 03/13/05 2:59pm

PurpleKnight

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The Kid really fucked up not releasing this as a single back in the day...

A certain little song called The Beautiful Ones.

Every non-Prince fan I've ever known has always been moved and blown away by this song. Hell, this song alone is cherished by other artists and Prince fans alike.

I think it would've easily been a #1 hit for him, especially if the video was just the club scene with Prince performing it to Apples.

Instead, he releases Take Me With U?! So, so stupid.
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Reply #1 posted 03/13/05 3:01pm

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mmmmm....not quite. imho, as strong of a role the song played within purple rain, on its own it more than likely woulda fallen flat.
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Reply #2 posted 03/13/05 3:01pm

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Best song on the album IMO. music
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Reply #3 posted 03/13/05 3:03pm

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Handclapsfingasnapz said:

mmmmm....not quite. imho, as strong of a role the song played within purple rain, on its own it more than likely woulda fallen flat.


You really think that? I don't see why. The song Purple Rain (my fav of ALL TIME) kicked ass on the charts, so I see no reason why a haunting, epic sounding ballad like this wouldn't have (it happens to be my second fav of all time).
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Reply #4 posted 03/13/05 3:07pm

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Handclapsfingasnapz said:

mmmmm....not quite. imho, as strong of a role the song played within purple rain, on its own it more than likely woulda fallen flat.

It would have done better than Take Me With U but not number one. Prince was,of course, still huge but by that time since everybody had Purple Rain,people were a little burnt out. It didn't matter what the 4th single was,the public as well as Prince were ready for some new music.Still, it is a great song reguardless.
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Reply #5 posted 03/13/05 3:09pm

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He could've released anything off the album and it would've probably done well.
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Reply #6 posted 03/13/05 3:17pm

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PurpleKnight said:

Handclapsfingasnapz said:

mmmmm....not quite. imho, as strong of a role the song played within purple rain, on its own it more than likely woulda fallen flat.


You really think that? I don't see why. The song Purple Rain (my fav of ALL TIME) kicked ass on the charts, so I see no reason why a haunting, epic sounding ballad like this wouldn't have (it happens to be my second fav of all time).
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i just have a hunch that it wouldnt've done well, is all.
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Reply #7 posted 03/13/05 3:19pm

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Let's Go Crazy was a mistake to release as a single IMO, and easily the weakest song on the album. Take Me With U kicks ass.
I heard Mariah Carey and Dru Hill's rendition on Mariah Carey's Butterfly CD and nearly laughed. So yes, other artists reall respect this song.
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Reply #8 posted 03/13/05 3:21pm

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doctamario said:

Let's Go Crazy was a mistake to release as a single IMO, and easily the weakest song on the album. Take Me With U kicks ass.
I heard Mariah Carey and Dru Hill's rendition on Mariah Carey's Butterfly CD and nearly laughed. So yes, other artists reall respect this song.
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Uhh, Let's Go Crazy is a #1 hit.
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Reply #9 posted 03/13/05 3:22pm

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doctamario said:

Let's Go Crazy was a mistake to release as a single IMO, and easily the weakest song on the album.

but it was one fuck of an opening number. you gotta give it that.
I heard Mariah Carey and Dru Hill's rendition on Mariah Carey's Butterfly CD and nearly laughed.

that shit made me wanna hurt somebody. barf
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Reply #10 posted 03/13/05 3:24pm

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PurpleKnight said:

doctamario said:

Let's Go Crazy was a mistake to release as a single IMO, and easily the weakest song on the album. Take Me With U kicks ass.
I heard Mariah Carey and Dru Hill's rendition on Mariah Carey's Butterfly CD and nearly laughed. So yes, other artists reall respect this song.
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Uhh, Let's Go Crazy is a #1 hit.


It's still the weakest song on the album. I mean, didn't most of the fans back then roll their eyes at Let's Go Crazy because it was an obvious attempt to reach out to the pop community with something so uncreative? Even at his weakest, he's always been far beyond making stuff like that. So what if it's #1. Britney Spears is the most popular female entertainer these days, but she sucks ass.
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Reply #11 posted 03/13/05 3:28pm

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I was referring to the fact you said it was a mistake to release it as a single, when it was a #1 hit. Thus, no matter what you feel about the song, saying it was a mistake to release it is factually wrong.
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Reply #12 posted 03/13/05 3:29pm

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doctamario said:

I mean, didn't most of the fans back then roll their eyes at Let's Go Crazy because it was an obvious attempt to reach out to the pop community with something so uncreative?

d00d...that made absolutely no sense. if it were uncreative, it wouldnt've been a #1 single.
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Reply #13 posted 03/13/05 3:31pm

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And how can it be called uncreative with such clever undertones in the lyrics and such amazing guitar in it?
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Reply #14 posted 03/13/05 3:32pm

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Definitely, it's my pick for best song on Purple Rain, with sizeable competition from When Doves Cry and Computer Blue.

Easily one of my very favorite Prince tunes, it would've made a killer single... way, way more effective than Take Me With U.

As for Let's Go Crazy, it's a gleefully unabashed pop-rock tune.. just because it's blatantly commercial doesn't negate its lyrical and musical cleverness.
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Reply #15 posted 03/13/05 3:55pm

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I'm sorry, is someone actually disrespecting one of Prince's greatest songs of all time (Let's go Crazy). Yes, I am a bit tired of the song because it was a MONSTER of a hit, but c'mon-even the non-Prince fans know that song is fierce. And as far as it not being creative? The fuckin' thing starts off with a sermon--it's not like anything before it really.
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Reply #16 posted 03/13/05 3:56pm

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Everyone is forgetting Darling Nikki.
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Reply #17 posted 03/13/05 4:26pm

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Everyone is forgetting Darling Nikki.

Strange that a song like that was too controversial for radio back then and in recent years became a hit for the Foo Fighter.
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Reply #18 posted 03/13/05 4:34pm

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That is my favorite Prince song of all time!!!!!
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Reply #19 posted 03/13/05 5:00pm

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Naw. Kinda like IIWYGF, it's an absolute classic song, but not a great radio single. The Beautiful One's almost too "haunting" for its own good as a single. Take me With U was an easy choice, catchy melody with broad based appeal. You hear it on the radio and its easy/breezy sing along to the chorus.

But TBO, you kinda gotta be in a certain mood to hear an introspective, haunting, heart-wrenching ballad. Overall Purple Rain seemed to do just fine without it being released as a single anyway, so it really doesn't matter at this point.
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Reply #20 posted 03/13/05 5:01pm

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Handclapsfingasnapz said:

doctamario said:

I mean, didn't most of the fans back then roll their eyes at Let's Go Crazy because it was an obvious attempt to reach out to the pop community with something so uncreative?

d00d...that made absolutely no sense. if it were uncreative, it wouldnt've been a #1 single.


I LOVE Let's Go Crazy...esp the long version...it's the song that got me HOOKED on the guy's music. How can you argue that it shouldn't have been a single if it went to #1? I don't get that. I love Beautiful Ones too...not sure the general public was ready for it tho back in 84/85.
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Reply #21 posted 03/13/05 5:13pm

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Universaluv said:

Naw. Kinda like IIWYGF, it's an absolute classic song, but not a great radio single. The Beautiful One's almost too "haunting" for its own good as a single. Take me With U was an easy choice, catchy melody with broad based appeal. You hear it on the radio and its easy/breezy sing along to the chorus.

But TBO, you kinda gotta be in a certain mood to hear an introspective, haunting, heart-wrenching ballad. Overall Purple Rain seemed to do just fine without it being released as a single anyway, so it really doesn't matter at this point.


The difference is that The Beautiful Ones is easy to understand and relate to for the average guy, whereas IIWYGF sounded like some weird gay thing to the average guy.

IMO Purple Rain was a huge hit, and Beautiful Ones fits the mold nicely of an epic sounding ballad with a hot ending and a built-in video.

Plus, "She's Out Of My Life" was a hit for MJ, so it proves the public could accept a heart-wrenching ballad from a pop star.
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Reply #22 posted 03/13/05 5:21pm

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ok folks lets get this one thing straight once and for all. prince had NO choice of what was released as a single that was the choice of the heads at Warners.
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Reply #23 posted 03/13/05 5:21pm

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Really? I thought he had some say in that. Well, WB fucked up then.
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Reply #24 posted 03/13/05 5:25pm

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I totally agree. That screaming at the end was pretty revolutionary, too, so it had an edge.
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Reply #25 posted 03/13/05 5:27pm

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doctamario said:

Let's Go Crazy was a mistake to release as a single IMO, and easily the weakest song on the album.

crack is whack, dude...lol


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Reply #26 posted 03/13/05 5:28pm

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PurpleKnight,

Much like "Adore", which was also not a single, The Beautiful Ones is a cult classic, despite having never been a single, because the album itself was so successful. In other words? It didn't NEED to be a single.
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Reply #27 posted 03/13/05 5:28pm

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SquarePeg said:

doctamario said:

Let's Go Crazy was a mistake to release as a single IMO, and easily the weakest song on the album.

crack is whack, dude...lol


I swear some of ya'll were born in 1990. disbelief

lol i still can't believe that he said that...but alas, he is but an org newbie.
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Reply #28 posted 03/13/05 5:30pm

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SquarePeg said:

PurpleKnight,

Much like "Adore", which was also not a single, The Beautiful Ones is a cult classic, despite having never been a single, because the album itself was so successful. In other words? It didn't NEED to be a single.


Yeah, but it'd be even more well-known had it been released as one. Would've sold yet even more copies of Purple Rain too, which never hurts.
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Reply #29 posted 03/13/05 5:33pm

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PurpleKnight said:

SquarePeg said:

PurpleKnight,

Much like "Adore", which was also not a single, The Beautiful Ones is a cult classic, despite having never been a single, because the album itself was so successful. In other words? It didn't NEED to be a single.


Yeah, but it'd be even more well-known had it been released as one. Would've sold yet even more copies of Purple Rain too, which never hurts.

Not necessarily. That song is very very well known. No matter where Prince plays today, when the band opens with those first few chords from "beautiful"..the crowd erupts, cuz they know what it is.
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