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Thread started 03/13/05 12:07pm

pennylover

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1999 the New Master!!

Wtf!!! eek Could this be the worst song (remake) that P has ever done? What’s up with the making of this song? P was all hyped up about owning the new version and it would be better than the original. I couldn’t wait until it came out. I just knew it would be the ultimate since the original was all of that, but when I played the TNM I was totally shocked “wtf is this all about”. What’s your take on this remake? eek
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Reply #1 posted 03/13/05 12:32pm

RazzBeret

pennylover said:

Wtf!!! eek Could this be the worst song (remake) that P has ever done? What’s up with the making of this song? P was all hyped up about owning the new version and it would be better than the original. I couldn’t wait until it came out. I just knew it would be the ultimate since the original was all of that, but when I played the TNM I was totally shocked “wtf is this all about”. What’s your take on this remake? eek


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Reply #2 posted 03/13/05 1:17pm

4nowneway

I agree, I have it, I never play it
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Reply #3 posted 03/13/05 1:17pm

4nowneway

Doug E. Fresh?
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Reply #4 posted 03/13/05 5:28pm

mrdespues

There's a little Latin bit in it which I like, otherwise it's total shit.
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Reply #5 posted 03/13/05 5:30pm

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I've actually never heard it.
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Reply #6 posted 03/13/05 5:31pm

Handclapsfinga
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PurpleKnight said:

I've actually never heard it.

lucky you.
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Reply #7 posted 03/13/05 5:33pm

PurpleKnight

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Handclapsfingasnapz said:

PurpleKnight said:

I've actually never heard it.

lucky you.


lol

Really though, what's so bad about it? And I don't just wanna hear "it sucks cock", I want real reasons why it's bad. Anyone?
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Reply #8 posted 03/13/05 5:54pm

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PurpleKnight said:

Handclapsfingasnapz said:


lucky you.


lol

Really though, what's so bad about it? And I don't just wanna hear "it sucks cock", I want real reasons why it's bad. Anyone?

well, he had the chance of reworking such a classic song into somethin grandiose, but it just turned out as total poopage. it's over-produced and just right-out scary, right down to the album cover artwork. this is definitely one of those "you'd have to hear it to understand"-songs. once you've heard it, you'll see.
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Reply #9 posted 03/13/05 7:04pm

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Could someone explain 2 me why he named it Prince and the Revolution 1999 The New Master? eek
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Reply #10 posted 03/13/05 7:10pm

pennylover

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PurpleKnight said:

I've actually never heard it.

Trust me PurpleKnight this is the worst song P has done imo. I can't even explain it. I really tried 2 give this song a spin but its way 2 scary like Handclapsfingasnapz said all the way down 2 the artwork...
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Reply #11 posted 03/13/05 7:25pm

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pennylover said:

Could someone explain 2 me why he named it Prince and the Revolution 1999 The New Master? eek


Because he actually had the Revolution and the NPG in the studio for the remaster. You can hear Wendy and Lisa singin their lines. Look on the back cover of the CD and it lists The NPG, the Revolution, Larry Graham, Rosie Gaines, & Doug E. Fresh in on the song.
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Reply #12 posted 03/13/05 9:23pm

kehmseraph

um..wendy was never in the original.it was lisa,jill and dez
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Reply #13 posted 03/14/05 8:55am

Housequake2K2

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kehmseraph said:

um..wendy was never in the original.it was lisa,jill and dez


point taken...my bad. but you understood what I meant.
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Reply #14 posted 03/14/05 8:59am

gsh

Handclapsfingasnapz said:

PurpleKnight said:



lol

Really though, what's so bad about it? And I don't just wanna hear "it sucks cock", I want real reasons why it's bad. Anyone?

well, he had the chance of reworking such a classic song into somethin grandiose, but it just turned out as total poopage. it's over-produced and just right-out scary, right down to the album cover artwork. this is definitely one of those "you'd have to hear it to understand"-songs. once you've heard it, you'll see.


Yup definitely agree.
I'd have said it sucks donkey balls, but I think our mod has it right anyway!
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Reply #15 posted 03/14/05 10:12am

thekidsgirl

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lol goodness Im glad I've never heard it!
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Reply #16 posted 03/14/05 11:20am

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Housequake2K2 said:

pennylover said:

Could someone explain 2 me why he named it Prince and the Revolution 1999 The New Master? eek


Because he actually had the Revolution and the NPG in the studio for the remaster. You can hear Wendy and Lisa singin their lines. Look on the back cover of the CD and it lists The NPG, the Revolution, Larry Graham, Rosie Gaines, & Doug E. Fresh in on the song.


No he didn't. Its credited to Prince & The Revolution because, technically speaking, 1999 was the first album credited to P&TR (believe it or not. Inside the Prince logo on the album cover, in small letters, it says "and the Revolution"). Prince actually used the backing vox and much of the instrumentation from the original recording (re-recording his own voice, and adding new instrumentation on top). Larry, Doug-E and Rosie were all in the studio, but the Revolution members were not. In a nutshell, its just a fancy remix.

The backing vox on that track is Jill Jones, Dez Dickerson and Lisa Coleman. Wendy wasn't even a member of the Revolution at the time of the original recording. Originally, Prince intended to use this as a springboard for the "Revolution" album Roadhouse Garden. When Wendy & Lisa declined, he scrapped the project.
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Reply #17 posted 03/14/05 11:21am

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I hear a lot of venom regarding this track on the org, so my question 2 all of U is this:

What would have made this remake of '1999' acceptable? I'm curious.
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Reply #18 posted 03/14/05 11:22am

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PurpleKnight said:

Handclapsfingasnapz said:


lucky you.


lol

Really though, what's so bad about it? And I don't just wanna hear "it sucks cock", I want real reasons why it's bad. Anyone?


If it would suck my cock I might like it better. wink

Its basically just a lame NPS-era remix of an old song. Its not all that bad, just nothing spectacular. It certainly doesn't improve on the original at all. Like much of New Power Soul it lacks anything really special.
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Reply #19 posted 03/14/05 11:26am

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Handclapsfingasnapz said:

PurpleKnight said:



lol

Really though, what's so bad about it? And I don't just wanna hear "it sucks cock", I want real reasons why it's bad. Anyone?

well, he had the chance of reworking such a classic song into somethin grandiose, but it just turned out as total poopage. it's over-produced and just right-out scary, right down to the album cover artwork. this is definitely one of those "you'd have to hear it to understand"-songs. once you've heard it, you'll see.


Why he didn't jsut do a cool live version is beyond me.

Oh, and the album cover? rolleyes I remember at the time it came out, Prince was suing Uptown and other fansites, putting out crappy music, and talking on his website about joining the "Collective". Then, he appeared on this cover with all this cybernetic shit on his face and it all became clear! Prince had been assimilated by the Borg, and was planning on assimilating us!!!

I AM prince OF BORG!

RESISTANCE IS FUTILE!
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Reply #20 posted 03/14/05 12:01pm

Taurus

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Easiest the worst CD in my Prince collection.....
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Reply #21 posted 03/14/05 12:10pm

pennylover

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JediMaster said:

Housequake2K2 said:



Because he actually had the Revolution and the NPG in the studio for the remaster. You can hear Wendy and Lisa singin their lines. Look on the back cover of the CD and it lists The NPG, the Revolution, Larry Graham, Rosie Gaines, & Doug E. Fresh in on the song.


No he didn't. Its credited to Prince & The Revolution because, technically speaking, 1999 was the first album credited to P&TR (believe it or not. Inside the Prince logo on the album cover, in small letters, it says "and the Revolution"). Prince actually used the backing vox and much of the instrumentation from the original recording (re-recording his own voice, and adding new instrumentation on top). Larry, Doug-E and Rosie were all in the studio, but the Revolution members were not. In a nutshell, its just a fancy remix.

The backing vox on that track is Jill Jones, Dez Dickerson and Lisa Coleman. Wendy wasn't even a member of the Revolution at the time of the original recording. Originally, Prince intended to use this as a springboard for the "Revolution" album Roadhouse Garden. When Wendy & Lisa declined, he scrapped the project.

Interesting! JediMaster thanks 4 the info, wink by the way who is Rosario Dawson? I notice her picture on the back of the CD cover
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Reply #22 posted 03/14/05 12:41pm

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pennylover said:

JediMaster said:



No he didn't. Its credited to Prince & The Revolution because, technically speaking, 1999 was the first album credited to P&TR (believe it or not. Inside the Prince logo on the album cover, in small letters, it says "and the Revolution"). Prince actually used the backing vox and much of the instrumentation from the original recording (re-recording his own voice, and adding new instrumentation on top). Larry, Doug-E and Rosie were all in the studio, but the Revolution members were not. In a nutshell, its just a fancy remix.

The backing vox on that track is Jill Jones, Dez Dickerson and Lisa Coleman. Wendy wasn't even a member of the Revolution at the time of the original recording. Originally, Prince intended to use this as a springboard for the "Revolution" album Roadhouse Garden. When Wendy & Lisa declined, he scrapped the project.

Interesting! JediMaster thanks 4 the info, wink by the way who is Rosario Dawson? I notice her picture on the back of the CD cover


She's an actress. She will appear in the upcoming film Sin City.
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Reply #23 posted 03/14/05 12:46pm

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Did Rosario Dawson sing on this CD? By the way JediMaster I really respect your knowledge of P and love reading your threads. thumbs up!
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Reply #24 posted 03/14/05 1:02pm

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Handclapsfingasnapz said:

PurpleKnight said:



lol

Really though, what's so bad about it? And I don't just wanna hear "it sucks cock", I want real reasons why it's bad. Anyone?

well, he had the chance of reworking such a classic song into somethin grandiose, but it just turned out as total poopage. it's over-produced and just right-out scary, right down to the album cover artwork. this is definitely one of those "you'd have to hear it to understand"-songs. once you've heard it, you'll see.


You summed it up perfectly. That CD makes a hell of a coaster and frisbee on occassion. lol Seriously though, that Maxi-Single is just god-awful. It's so bad it goes past bad, back to good, then back to bad again. confused
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Reply #25 posted 03/14/05 2:02pm

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pennylover said:

Did Rosario Dawson sing on this CD? By the way JediMaster I really respect your knowledge of P and love reading your threads. thumbs up!


hug Thank you!!!

No, she doesn't sing on it. She recites this strange bit about Christmas, which relflects the JW beliefs that Prince was starting to study (although, its not wholly in-line with the JW faith. Some of the things stated in the mix are just weird Prince-isms that aren't historically accurate)
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Reply #26 posted 03/15/05 6:15pm

kinke

OH MY... THAT WAS TRULY A WASTE OF TIME!!!
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