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Thread started 02/28/05 6:01am

stevesuphan

Lovesexy, The Black ALbum and the secrets beyond.......

I guess you guys have never seen my name before, well, cause i kind of found this site by chance whilst checking around about Prince, which as a matter of fact is one of my annual endeavours and glad to see that he is doing rather well for himself again these days.
As a Brit, i originally grew fond of Prince after listening to Girls&Boys way back then in 1986 and by 1989 i was an avid collector/dealer of Prince's rare records which included the likes of both 12' UK covers of 'Gotta stop messin' about' and 'Let's Work' etc.. getting a name for myself from other collectors around the world i was also an obsessed fan of the man in writing and after seeing him play in Paris I saw him 10 out of the 17 nights that he played at Wembley Arena on what was it? the Nude tour? pls forgive if i get any of the ins and outs wrong.

There may even be one or two of you out there from those days that still remember me.

As a mad fan at the time, i also had an abundance of Prince pen-pals from a UK fan club cum mag at the time. As i was one of the regular contributors I also got friendly with 'Cat' herself. It was during this time that I came close to a girl from Michigan, whom slightly older than myself had an interest in Prince, but she didnt seem to be much of a fan and instead wrote more about her love for God than anything else. Just through our correspondance we became close anyway.

After a few months or so, she wrote and claimed in upmost confidentiality that, after being in close contact with Prince for a couple of months, it was because of her that Prince decided not to release The Black Album.
She claimed that after her first few letters to Prince she started to get a few anonymous replies and went on to inform Prince that his lyrics etc... were against the word of God etc... to cut a long story short, her pseudonym at that time was 'Annastesia' and thus she claimed the song of that name was written for her and that all the reasoning of Lovesexy, the nude cover and Prince's sudden call for God in the album, was because it was her, herself, through her correspondance with Prince in late 1987 that made him change his ways. The saga of the Black Album is thus history.

In 1990, i did meet this girl through my Amtrak travels of the US and can say she was of a serious religious nature, not a tremendous fan of Prince but seemed to carry knowledge of the guy that i had never heard of before. One time i did ask 'Cat' herself about the true reasoning behind the unreleased Black Album of 87 and Lovesexy of 88 and she confessed that she didn't know the slightest, only that a kind of revolution had arisen within the guy in early 88.

Living in south-east asia for the past 11 years or so i have, as you could imagine, have become rather ignorant of Prince's goings-on but i still keep up from time to time.

I have never retold this story anywhere before besides housequake.com a few days ago and would like to know whether any of the members have heard such a story like this before.

My words are genuine but i can not verify any truth.

stephensuphan
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Reply #1 posted 02/28/05 6:10am

MetroArea

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Wasn't this posted word for word on HQ a few weeks back?
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Reply #2 posted 02/28/05 6:38am

emesem

Wasn't the girl in the story supposed to be Ingrid Chavez??...thats why she's the one that says "rain is wet...and sugar is sweet"...




stevesuphan said:

I guess you guys have never seen my name before, well, cause i kind of found this site by chance whilst checking around about Prince, which as a matter of fact is one of my annual endeavours and glad to see that he is doing rather well for himself again these days.
As a Brit, i originally grew fond of Prince after listening to Girls&Boys way back then in 1986 and by 1989 i was an avid collector/dealer of Prince's rare records which included the likes of both 12' UK covers of 'Gotta stop messin' about' and 'Let's Work' etc.. getting a name for myself from other collectors around the world i was also an obsessed fan of the man in writing and after seeing him play in Paris I saw him 10 out of the 17 nights that he played at Wembley Arena on what was it? the Nude tour? pls forgive if i get any of the ins and outs wrong.

There may even be one or two of you out there from those days that still remember me.

As a mad fan at the time, i also had an abundance of Prince pen-pals from a UK fan club cum mag at the time. As i was one of the regular contributors I also got friendly with 'Cat' herself. It was during this time that I came close to a girl from Michigan, whom slightly older than myself had an interest in Prince, but she didnt seem to be much of a fan and instead wrote more about her love for God than anything else. Just through our correspondance we became close anyway.

After a few months or so, she wrote and claimed in upmost confidentiality that, after being in close contact with Prince for a couple of months, it was because of her that Prince decided not to release The Black Album.
She claimed that after her first few letters to Prince she started to get a few anonymous replies and went on to inform Prince that his lyrics etc... were against the word of God etc... to cut a long story short, her pseudonym at that time was 'Annastesia' and thus she claimed the song of that name was written for her and that all the reasoning of Lovesexy, the nude cover and Prince's sudden call for God in the album, was because it was her, herself, through her correspondance with Prince in late 1987 that made him change his ways. The saga of the Black Album is thus history.

In 1990, i did meet this girl through my Amtrak travels of the US and can say she was of a serious religious nature, not a tremendous fan of Prince but seemed to carry knowledge of the guy that i had never heard of before. One time i did ask 'Cat' herself about the true reasoning behind the unreleased Black Album of 87 and Lovesexy of 88 and she confessed that she didn't know the slightest, only that a kind of revolution had arisen within the guy in early 88.

Living in south-east asia for the past 11 years or so i have, as you could imagine, have become rather ignorant of Prince's goings-on but i still keep up from time to time.

I have never retold this story anywhere before besides housequake.com a few days ago and would like to know whether any of the members have heard such a story like this before.

My words are genuine but i can not verify any truth.

stephensuphan
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Reply #3 posted 02/28/05 7:24am

Rev

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Sounds like you met Ingrid Chavez.
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Reply #4 posted 02/28/05 7:27am

softandwet

lol, i thought it was about anna fantastic, his girlfriend around the time? anna fantastic - annastesia - not a huge leap yeah?

doubt this woman was telling you the truth in the end mateypants. sorry!
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Reply #5 posted 02/28/05 11:23am

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stevesuphan said:

by 1989 i was an avid collector/dealer of Prince's rare records which included the likes of both 12' UK covers of 'Gotta stop messin' about' and 'Let's Work' etc..

These are extraordinarily rare - perhaps even unique ... and you must have an enormous room to keep them in too.

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Reply #6 posted 02/28/05 11:37am

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langebleu said:

stevesuphan said:

by 1989 i was an avid collector/dealer of Prince's rare records which included the likes of both 12' UK covers of 'Gotta stop messin' about' and 'Let's Work' etc..

These are extraordinarily rare - perhaps even unique ... and you must have an enormous room to keep them in too.

smile

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lol
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Reply #7 posted 02/28/05 5:12pm

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...hey this was on Housequake.com too!
Doesn't it make you smile when you realize no one was there to see the stupid thing you just did?
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Reply #8 posted 03/01/05 9:52am

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How bout we read the damn post before letting the assinine comments within get the best of us--

[b]He said he posted the same ass story on hq-- get it right!
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Also, do you think that ugly people are God's cruel joke on humanity (like the platypus and the heterosexual) or another form of population control?


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Reply #9 posted 03/01/05 4:35pm

Muziqkidd7

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cinnamonjo said:

How bout we read the damn post before letting the assinine comments within get the best of us--

[b]He said he posted the same ass story on hq-- get it right!



Hey thanks for your attitude! Made my day!!
Doesn't it make you smile when you realize no one was there to see the stupid thing you just did?
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Reply #10 posted 03/01/05 5:55pm

cinnamonjo

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Muziqkidd7 said:

cinnamonjo said:

How bout we read the damn post before letting the assinine comments within get the best of us--

[b]He said he posted the same ass story on hq-- get it right!



Hey thanks for your attitude! Made my day!!




biggrin Plenty to spare musiq. biggrin
Dont take me seriously...this is coming straight from an idiot
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Also, do you think that ugly people are God's cruel joke on humanity (like the platypus and the heterosexual) or another form of population control?


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Reply #11 posted 03/01/05 6:02pm

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what does Prince's ass smell like?
Haters travel in packs and they are offended or threatened by klhk, haters express intense hostility toward the subject of hate. Haters are annoyed and roll thier eyes when klhk is paid a compliment. ask yourself, are u a hater?
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Reply #12 posted 03/01/05 6:31pm

cinnamonjo

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klhk said:

what does Prince's ass smell like?



Elephants and flowers nutty
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Also, do you think that ugly people are God's cruel joke on humanity (like the platypus and the heterosexual) or another form of population control?


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Reply #13 posted 03/01/05 6:38pm

PurpleKnight

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Does anyone else find Ingrid Chavez insanely sexy?
The world is a comedy for those who think and a tragedy for those who feel.

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Reply #14 posted 03/02/05 3:11am

guestie

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PurpleKnight said:

Does anyone else find Ingrid Chavez insanely sexy?


Does any1 else? does any1 else? Does any1 else care what u think?

I should start that as a thread, Does any1 else think so?
U should have let me down easy,
If u had no plans 2 please me!
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Reply #15 posted 03/02/05 3:30am

calldapplwonde
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Why does no one answer this person?

Yes, we have heard similar stories. What exactly led to the cancellation of the Black Album only Prince knows but it surely had to do with Anna Stesia, Ingrid Chavez, God, Spooky Electric and ecstasy.
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Reply #16 posted 03/02/05 5:19am

SANSKER7

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PurpleKnight said:

Does anyone else find Ingrid Chavez insanely sexy?



Nope, just silly and annoying.
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First I need a picture of your mother, to verify the fact that there's not another one in the universe so supreme!!"
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Reply #17 posted 03/02/05 11:24am

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guestie said:

PurpleKnight said:

Does anyone else find Ingrid Chavez insanely sexy?


Does any1 else? does any1 else? Does any1 else care what u think?

I should start that as a thread, Does any1 else think so?



Umm...no need to respond with all the hostility. It was just a question.
The world is a comedy for those who think and a tragedy for those who feel.

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Reply #18 posted 03/02/05 11:43am

Number23

yawn

Please, Zeus, send the hounds of Hades chase us all away from the hustle and bustle of this claustrophobicly colloquial town square.

This earnest young chap's story may be true. Even Prince has a postman. But, at the end of the space/time continuim, who fucking cares?

The albums exist. They are real, well, in this box anyway. A story can never be real. Perspective not truth. Don't burn off precious neurons pondering the mixture - it's the medicine which matters. You lose 20,000 a day after you're 25, y'know. nod

So stop thinking, everyone.
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Reply #19 posted 03/02/05 12:43pm

MIGUELGOMEZ

PurpleKnight said:

Does anyone else find Ingrid Chavez insanely sexy?



I don't find her sexy. I only like one of her songs, HIPPY BLOOD. I think that she sounds drunk when she talks.


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Reply #20 posted 03/02/05 1:07pm

softandwet

Number23 said:[quote]yawn

Please, Zeus, send the hounds of Hades chase us all away from the hustle and bustle of this claustrophobicly colloquial town square.



you idiot! only hades can command cerberus!!!!!

wink
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Reply #21 posted 03/02/05 1:47pm

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calldapplwondery83 said:

Why does no one answer this person?

Yes, we have heard similar stories. What exactly led to the cancellation of the Black Album only Prince knows but it surely had to do with Anna Stesia, Ingrid Chavez, God, Spooky Electric and ecstasy.


and there it is.
but dude ur story is cool, and it would be cool if it were true.
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Reply #22 posted 03/02/05 1:49pm

Number23

softandwet said:[quote]

Number23 said:

yawn

Please, Zeus, send the hounds of Hades chase us all away from the hustle and bustle of this claustrophobicly colloquial town square.



you idiot! only hades can command cerberus!!!!!

wink


I wish I was an idiot.
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Reply #23 posted 03/02/05 1:57pm

poetbear68

If a gullability pill was ever invented, they would have patterned it after you.
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Reply #24 posted 03/02/05 2:03pm

Number23

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If a gullability pill was ever invented, they would have patterned it after you.


Me? Surely one jests.
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Reply #25 posted 03/02/05 2:04pm

thekidsgirl

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PurpleKnight said:

Does anyone else find Ingrid Chavez insanely sexy?


She's really pretty IMO biggrin
I love the way she talks, It makes me laugh
If you will, so will I
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Reply #26 posted 03/02/05 8:51pm

Snap

Y'all did a good job showing this "new" guy what kind of people are over here at Prince.org -- congrats. clapping confused

But seriously, I have to wonder if the girl was speaking some truth about her letters to Prince, and was her name Annastesia (or however SHE may have spelled it) before the song came out? Because I find it real interesting that the song is about Prince's "rebirth" and the name Anastacia means rebirth -- so it would be an additional coincidence that a person of the same name would've inspired this whole thing. I won't doubt that she did what she said she did -- but I have to doubt how much of a role she actually played in inspiring the Lovesexy era.

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Reply #27 posted 03/03/05 5:40pm

stevesuphan

Thanks for the 'snap', well, at least the folks over there at housequake have something between there ears and can comment constructively. What i have seen here is a bunch a kids been in to Prince for a few years and know the ins and outs of everything there is.

Very glad i dont live over where you guys are, with nothing to do but leave pretty useless posts whenever i can.

Any comment would be superfluous (but i guess you guys wouldnt understand such vocab1)
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Reply #28 posted 03/03/05 5:57pm

thedoorkeeper

stevesuphan said:

Thanks for the 'snap', well, at least the folks over there at housequake have something between there ears and can comment constructively.


Should be their not there.

What i have seen here is a bunch a kids been in to Prince for a few years and know the ins and outs of everything there is.


You should capitalize i like this I and it should
be kids that have been into Prince not kids been in to Prince. Into is one word.

Very glad i dont live over where you guys are, with nothing to do but leave pretty useless posts whenever i can.


Again capitalize capitalize capitalize.
Theres no excuse for laziness.

Any comment would be superfluous (but i guess you guys wouldnt understand such vocab1)


Capitalize your I's.
There is no such word as wouldnt - its wouldn't.
And I dare you to find vocab1) in the dictionary.

Just trying to be constructive - lol
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Reply #29 posted 03/03/05 8:13pm

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thedoorkeeper said:

Again capitalize capitalize capitalize.
Theres no excuse for laziness.


Uh -- if you want to correct others' use of grammar and spelling, do it carefully, because there is no such word as

Theres

either.
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