klhk said: EvilWhiteMale is my best friend. I made him a peppermint necklace. Together we will take down Larry Grahm and free Prince and his music. Prince will thank us and perform sexual favors for us. Then EvilWhiteMale and I will get married. We will make love and have EvilWhiteBlackMaleFemale children I have not laughed this hard in months!! | |
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Hopefully Prince will wise up and see the Jehovah Witness organization for what it really is, an egocentric self-righteous self-disclosed society that uses the name of God (Jehovah) for their own agenda (like many beliefs do). Who doesnt want to think they have inside information the rest of the world doesnt seem to have? Who doesnt want to think of a future earth of paradise? Must sound very appealing to someone who is seeking spiritual substance but doesnt have a one on One relationship with God to know what is truth and what is distorted truth. Who is going to decide who goes to heaven and inherits paradise,the Watchtower Society???? Jehovah Witnesses believe being born again is only for a few select elders, not for "whosoever will". Glad I didnt know that before Jesus saved me at a time I was hard as stone and cared nothing about Him (or at least my distorted view of Him at the time).
Prince left being a slave to a record company to being a slave to a man-made organization, an organization that claims to be the one true religion despite its numerous false prophecies, despite the hundreds of lives lost because of their twisted view of blood transfusions, despite the many unreported rapes and molestations in their organization because they believe police and all government officials are of the devil,etc. Will Prince ever be a free man in God,only time will tell. He's just too creative and funky to be bond too long. [Edited 3/2/05 19:23pm] | |
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jujubeans said: Hopefully Prince will wise up and see the Jehovah Witness organization for what it really is, an egocentric self-righteous self-disclosed society that uses the name of God (Jehovah) for their own agenda (like many beliefs do). Who doesnt want to think they have inside information the rest of the world doesnt seem to have? Who doesnt want to think of a future earth of paradise? Must sound very appealing to someone who is seeking spiritual substance but doesnt have a one on One relationship with God to know what is truth and what is distorted truth. Who is going to decide who goes to heaven and inherits paradise,the Watchtower Society???? Jehovah Witnesses believe being born again is only for a few select elders, not for "whosoever will". Glad I didnt know that before Jesus saved me at a time I was hard as stone and cared nothing about Him (or at least my distorted view of Him at the time).
Prince left being a slave to a record company to being a slave to a man-made organization, an organization that claims to be the one true religion despite its numerous false prophecies, despite the hundreds of lives lost because of their twisted view of blood transfusions, despite the many unreported rapes and molestations in their organization because they believe police and all government officials are of the devil,etc. Will Prince ever be a free man in God,only time will tell. He's just too creative and funky to be bond too long. [Edited 3/2/05 19:23pm] Your post shows that you have no idea what you are talking about. First of all being born again isnt for a few select elders. it is for anyone, will to follow christ. As far as the government being the devil, thats crazy they serve their purpose but in the end its all between you and God. Instead of bashing the brotha Prince and regardless of if you like his faith or not, atleast he is still doing his thing all these years later and by making you soo angry over his faith he has accomplished his goal, CONTROVERSEY. suprise suprise. Prince doing something you dont agree with. Leave the mans business alone and just focus on the music if he was any other faith you wouldnt even notice. [Edited 3/2/05 20:00pm] "Thinking like the Keys on Prince's piano, we'll be just fine" | |
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[quote] vivid said: vainandy said: This ain't nothing new to me and y'all can forget about Prince going back to his "dirty days". When Prince changes, he changes forever and never goes back whether the public likes it or not. The change after "Purple Rain" is proof of that. Everyone thought that change was a phase also. Y'all might as well get used to the new "saved Prince".
[Edited 2/28/05 20:16pm] Time may have stood still in 1984 for some (mentioning no names at all), but whatever changes came about following Purple Rain in 1985, were in fact followed by more and more changes. The question asked in the original post is whether this fact indicates that the latest change to a JW will also pass and he will change again (as he did so criminally after Purple Rain). With the exception of trying brief moments of current trends like rap and house, Prince has pretty much stayed on the same retro "creative" "artsy fartsy" path since 1985. He totally abandoned the sound he made famous and the times that he did use it since then, it was watered down with a retro sound. As far as the Jehovah's Witness thing goes, I find this very amusing to hear people bent all out of shape and thinking it's just a phase because everyone was saying the exact same thing when "Around The World In A Day" came out. Everyone thought Prince had temporary insanity and would eventually go back to the sound he was known for. Prince made a change, tons of people left him, Prince didn't care and continued with his new weaker sound whether people liked it or not. He even picked up new fans that liked his new sound better (Lord only knows why ). Now they are pissed because of the Jehovah's Witness thing and saying the exact same thing that we used to say back in 1985. I'm not holding my breath waiting for Prince to drop the Jehovah's Witness thing because I've been through this before and it's nothing new to me. You either live with the disappointment (and, of course, bitch about it as much as you can ), learn to get into some of it, or drop Prince all together. [Edited 3/3/05 0:31am] Andy is a four letter word. | |
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vainandy said: Time may have stood still in 1984 for some (mentioning no names at all), but whatever changes came about following Purple Rain in 1985, were in fact followed by more and more changes. The question asked in the original post is whether this fact indicates that the latest change to a JW will also pass and he will change again (as he did so criminally after Purple Rain). With the exception of trying brief moments of current trends like rap and house, Prince has pretty much stayed on the same retro "creative" "artsy fartsy" path since 1985. He totally abandoned the sound he made famous and the times that he did use it since then, it was watered down with a retro sound. As far as the Jehovah's Witness thing goes, I find this very amusing to hear people bent all out of shape and thinking it's just a phase because everyone was saying the exact same thing when "Around The World In A Day" came out. Everyone thought Prince had temporary insanity and would eventually go back to the sound he was known for. Prince made a change, tons of people left him, Prince didn't care and continued with his new weaker sound whether people liked it or not. He even picked up new fans that liked his new sound better (Lord only knows why ). Now they are pissed because of the Jehovah's Witness thing and saying the exact same thing that we used to say back in 1985. I'm not holding my breath waiting for Prince to drop the Jehovah's Witness thing because I've been through this before and it's nothing new to me. You either live with the disappointment (and, of course, bitch about it as much as you can ), learn to get into some of it, or drop Prince all together. [Edited 3/3/05 0:31am] ----- Back in 1985 P did not have a choice but, to change his sound because everyone was ripping him off at the time. The whole point of having your unique sound is to be different from everyone else. He did not have that uniqueness anymore so he did something else. | |
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EvilWhiteMale said: What's Prince's address? I'm sending him a copy of the Satanic Bible.
i think he already has one ... but gifts are always nice | |
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LadyQ said: It isn't that I hope its a phase. Long time ago I knew someone from the Prince camp and this person told me that when they got older they were gonna settle down and become a JW and I asked why and they said because they felt that JW was the only religion that explained the Bible the way it should be and that they explained the book of Revelation better than any other religion. I didn't say anything because I just didn't waste my time getting into religious debates with people.
I don't believe it was just Larry Graham that convinced Prince to be a JW. I believe this thought had been circulating for some time and that perhaps this person from the Prince camp maybe had heard it from Prince first and adopted it as their own. I think that when Prince and Larry hooked up that Prince may have felt it was time for him to go the religious route and that Larry just helped him make the transition. Prince was going through a lot of stuff back then personally. I've met a number of people in my lifetime who look at religion like some people look at IRA accounts. That after they've done the wild thing and they start getting older and thinking about death and all that they can say to God, okay I'll be good now and start putting their spiritual dollars into the "I Want to Go to Heaven" savings account. Does it work? I don't know. I don't know if you can willfully go out and know you are being out of control intentionally and then saying okay, I'm gonna do the right thing now. Prince can do what he wants and he will do what he wants and I'm not over here losing any sleep over it or campaigning for him to give it up. If he feels he needs to be a JW, so be it. But Prince does have a lot of sense and he's very intelligent and I just see him being lightyears above this JW thing and if he is a JW, I'm sure Prince has interjected a lot of his own rules into it because fame and JW don't go together if anyone remember the trouble Michael Jackson had when he was a JW and finally left the religion. But whatever, these are just my thoughts and they don't really matter when it's all said and done. He's gonna do what he's gonna do and people will either agree with me or they don't. NEXT. LQ Lady Q the voice of reason. Co-Sign | |
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vainandy said: As far as the Jehovah's Witness thing goes, I find this very amusing to hear people bent all out of shape and thinking it's just a phase because everyone was saying the exact same thing when "Around The World In A Day" came out. "My friends all say it's just a phase But oooooh whoooaaa..." | |
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OdysseyMiles said: Sounds like people are hoping more and more that it's just a phase. Kinda funny, really. "Maybe if we just concentrate a little harder, we can wish that inconvenient spirituality right out of him!"
It might not take much 'wishing.' Some actions simply scream that worldly interests and fame are what some are wishing for. [Edited 3/4/05 5:39am] [Edited 3/7/05 0:51am] | |
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OdysseyMiles said: XxAxX said: no. he's alweays been spiritual. the difference is, with the old prince his spirituality was more open. he believed in god but didn't need to sencor himself to prove it. with the new prince he's hooked into a non-mainstream, very formalized sect of christianity and tied into a set of beliefs that require him to put a damper on his creativity as regards 'immoral' content Exactly, except for the creativity part. Just because one chooses not to curse does not mean they've "put a damper on their creativity". What fun is main-stream? We're talking about P here. I don't believe in a new Prince or old Prince. I believe Prince has always been himself - a person who changes through life. Somethings never change. | |
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Krystal666 said: Do you think Prince's Jehovah faith is just a phase? What is your gut feeling? Mine is I think he is gonna dump it soon, Prince doesn't seem like the type to be restricted in any way or belifes. He always seems to like to develop his own paths and ideas. I think the faith was good to bring him back down to reality after the mid ninties but I just have a feeling that it won't last. He always acts like something will be the way it is forever for the rest of his life like Mayte, name change, and remember when he said he was staying in London untill 1999 way back in the mid ninites? He just seems so inconsistant I just can't see the faith lasting. Ten years from now I can see us like Oh yeah the early 2000s-The Jehovah Years! In fact I think the only thing we can count on him being constant with is making music and his love for music-which is ok with me!
Hey hon:) I agree that I see P as coming up his own spiritual ideas rather than following an already established religion. All I hope is that he continues to grow spiritually because, JW or not, because I think that is when he makes the best music! βThe only love there is is the love we make.β π | |
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