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Thread started 03/01/05 6:45pm

Krystal666

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If I was your girlfriend

On this board, and well critics alike seem to think this is the best song ever written. I am just curious to know why all you die hard supporters of IIWYG think this is such a great song? I am not saying it is a bad song, I like to listen to it from time to time. I think it is the saddest song Prince ever wrote and I love the lyrics but it is far from his best work. The Camille voice is kind of distracting and I actually prefer the way he sang it on the Sign of the Times movie. I am curious to know why it is one of your favorite songs of Prince's? Lyrics, melody, what is it about the song that makes you defend it so much?
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Reply #1 posted 03/01/05 6:48pm

PurpleKnight

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It's not one of my faves of his exactly, but it's a great song. I'd rate it around 4.5/5.

I think it's a great song cause it's a really simple, yet intoxicatingly sexy groove, the lyrics are really ingenius and unique, and I've always loved his Camille voice. Simple as that.
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Reply #2 posted 03/01/05 6:52pm

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I'm glad someone's asking this question. Thank you, Krystal666, for making me believe there's someone out there like me who's equally confused by Sign O'the Times Survivor's result. Somehow, though, I think we're the only two on the planet.
Don't hurt me, I'm a newb. I'm supposed to be stupid.
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Reply #3 posted 03/01/05 7:02pm

Adore7

It's just a great song. It is like asking "why is the sky blue?"
It just is.

As for the SOTT survivor, I was shocked that IIWYG won
I can't believe that Adore didn't make the top 2.
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Reply #4 posted 03/02/05 2:05am

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I think its great, because it's a love song, but without soppy music.. it just gets me everytime and i never forward that song
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Reply #5 posted 03/02/05 3:32am

calldapplwonde
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Adore7 said:

It's just a great song. It is like asking "why is the sky blue?"
It just is.

As for the SOTT survivor, I was shocked that IIWYG won
I can't believe that Adore didn't make the top 2.



Yet even the blue sky can be explained.



...sorry.
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Reply #6 posted 03/02/05 5:49am

vivid

Personally speaking I think this song encapsulates everything that is great about Prince's music.

The lyric is stunning. Prince has written some pretty slushy love songs but this one manages to be beautiful and moving, whilst also being intelligent, articulate and wonderfully phrased - poetry in fact. I believe an American feminist poet has used it in her lectures, which I'm sure can't be said for many of his ballads.

The melody is perfect. Simple and measured with each line sounding like a little waterfall cascading down the octave as he hypothesises being the 'girlfriend' in the 'if' clause, ending up in a deep little pool as he questions what his lover's reactions would then be to him, her man. The melody couldn't illustrate the lyric any better.

The production is like all my favourite Prince songs very sparse. A great funky bass line, a simple keyboard riff carries the melody, and the trademark snare drum. Whether or not you like the Camille voice this has to be the best example of it. The speeded up lead vocal set against the slowed background voices manages to sound both macho and fey simultaneously - the essence of both this song, and Prince himself.

The structure of the song itself, as well as it's place within the structure of the album also work well. Set more or less in the middle between the dark and morose SOTT and the lush swooning Adore it finds itself somewhere between the two in tone also. For me it balances the whole album and provides its pivotal point. The intro to the song (the wedding march) is a surprise and along with the lyric place it firmly in its biographical context (written to Sussanah,who he'd been engaged to the previous year, and refering to her relationship with her sister Wendy,who was the most well known and popular member of the then recently disbanded Revolution). The song has a great bridge where the emotions bubble over then there is the whispered yet climactic outro.

I guess I got into Prince's music as i was attracted by his lack of inhibition when it came to marrying percieved opposites; male/female, black/white, religion/sex, gay/straight etc. For me this song is a lesson in how to do that with perfect harmony. It is simple, sexy, moving, sad, strange, clever, genuine and paradoxical - quintessentially Prince.
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Reply #7 posted 03/02/05 7:30am

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doctamario said:

I'm glad someone's asking this question. Thank you, Krystal666, for making me believe there's someone out there like me who's equally confused by Sign O'the Times Survivor's result. Somehow, though, I think we're the only two on the planet.


its not one of my favorites but I give it credit for being really original


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Reply #8 posted 03/02/05 7:34am

kisscamille

vivid said:

Personally speaking I think this song encapsulates everything that is great about Prince's music.

The lyric is stunning. Prince has written some pretty slushy love songs but this one manages to be beautiful and moving, whilst also being intelligent, articulate and wonderfully phrased - poetry in fact. I believe an American feminist poet has used it in her lectures, which I'm sure can't be said for many of his ballads.

The melody is perfect. Simple and measured with each line sounding like a little waterfall cascading down the octave as he hypothesises being the 'girlfriend' in the 'if' clause, ending up in a deep little pool as he questions what his lover's reactions would then be to him, her man. The melody couldn't illustrate the lyric any better.

The production is like all my favourite Prince songs very sparse. A great funky bass line, a simple keyboard riff carries the melody, and the trademark snare drum. Whether or not you like the Camille voice this has to be the best example of it. The speeded up lead vocal set against the slowed background voices manages to sound both macho and fey simultaneously - the essence of both this song, and Prince himself.

The structure of the song itself, as well as it's place within the structure of the album also work well. Set more or less in the middle between the dark and morose SOTT and the lush swooning Adore it finds itself somewhere between the two in tone also. For me it balances the whole album and provides its pivotal point. The intro to the song (the wedding march) is a surprise and along with the lyric place it firmly in its biographical context (written to Sussanah,who he'd been engaged to the previous year, and refering to her relationship with her sister Wendy,who was the most well known and popular member of the then recently disbanded Revolution). The song has a great bridge where the emotions bubble over then there is the whispered yet climactic outro.

I guess I got into Prince's music as i was attracted by his lack of inhibition when it came to marrying percieved opposites; male/female, black/white, religion/sex, gay/straight etc. For me this song is a lesson in how to do that with perfect harmony. It is simple, sexy, moving, sad, strange, clever, genuine and paradoxical - quintessentially Prince.



Wow! I couldn't have said it better myself. Very well put and right on thumbs up!

IIWYG is one of his most unique songs. I love the lyrics and bassline too. I've never understood why these lyrics have been so misunderstood by some, but for some reason they have been. From the first time I heard this song back in the 80's I've loved it and have thought it's one of his greatest!
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Reply #9 posted 03/02/05 7:39am

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vivid said:

Personally speaking I think this song encapsulates everything that is great about Prince's music.

The lyric is stunning. Prince has written some pretty slushy love songs but this one manages to be beautiful and moving, whilst also being intelligent, articulate and wonderfully phrased - poetry in fact. I believe an American feminist poet has used it in her lectures, which I'm sure can't be said for many of his ballads.

The melody is perfect. Simple and measured with each line sounding like a little waterfall cascading down the octave as he hypothesises being the 'girlfriend' in the 'if' clause, ending up in a deep little pool as he questions what his lover's reactions would then be to him, her man. The melody couldn't illustrate the lyric any better.

The production is like all my favourite Prince songs very sparse. A great funky bass line, a simple keyboard riff carries the melody, and the trademark snare drum. Whether or not you like the Camille voice this has to be the best example of it. The speeded up lead vocal set against the slowed background voices manages to sound both macho and fey simultaneously - the essence of both this song, and Prince himself.

The structure of the song itself, as well as it's place within the structure of the album also work well. Set more or less in the middle between the dark and morose SOTT and the lush swooning Adore it finds itself somewhere between the two in tone also. For me it balances the whole album and provides its pivotal point. The intro to the song (the wedding march) is a surprise and along with the lyric place it firmly in its biographical context (written to Sussanah,who he'd been engaged to the previous year, and refering to her relationship with her sister Wendy,who was the most well known and popular member of the then recently disbanded Revolution). The song has a great bridge where the emotions bubble over then there is the whispered yet climactic outro.

I guess I got into Prince's music as i was attracted by his lack of inhibition when it came to marrying percieved opposites; male/female, black/white, religion/sex, gay/straight etc. For me this song is a lesson in how to do that with perfect harmony. It is simple, sexy, moving, sad, strange, clever, genuine and paradoxical - quintessentially Prince.


What a perfect summary of the song. clapping
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Reply #10 posted 03/02/05 8:50am

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vivid...what can i say?? worship thumbs up! i ADORE the song...and THAT'S WHY!!!
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Reply #11 posted 03/02/05 10:04am

lilgish

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The lyrics, arrangement.....it takes you through all emotional levels and still retains a cohesive idea.
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Reply #12 posted 03/02/05 10:08am

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Krystal666 said:

On this board, and well critics alike seem to think this is the best song ever written. I am just curious to know why all you die hard supporters of IIWYG think this is such a great song? I am not saying it is a bad song, I like to listen to it from time to time. I think it is the saddest song Prince ever wrote and I love the lyrics but it is far from his best work. The Camille voice is kind of distracting and I actually prefer the way he sang it on the Sign of the Times movie. I am curious to know why it is one of your favorite songs of Prince's? Lyrics, melody, what is it about the song that makes you defend it so much?



The way I see it:

1. It is the most vulnerable song I have ever heard. Not THE most vulnerable, just the most vulnerable one I've heard. The sped up vocal seems to add to that vulnerability

2. It's like a suite, there like 3 different sections in it.

3. It's dripping style like a jherri curl drips juice. That bass figure jerks around like a dog not wanting to be on a leash, while it's owner, the synth figure, just strolls down the street with the greatest of ease. Great musical contradiction...

4. Please don't make me keep going...cuz I could...
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Reply #13 posted 03/02/05 10:10am

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vivid said:

Personally speaking I think this song encapsulates everything that is great about Prince's music.

The lyric is stunning. Prince has written some pretty slushy love songs but this one manages to be beautiful and moving, whilst also being intelligent, articulate and wonderfully phrased - poetry in fact. I believe an American feminist poet has used it in her lectures, which I'm sure can't be said for many of his ballads.

The melody is perfect. Simple and measured with each line sounding like a little waterfall cascading down the octave as he hypothesises being the 'girlfriend' in the 'if' clause, ending up in a deep little pool as he questions what his lover's reactions would then be to him, her man. The melody couldn't illustrate the lyric any better.

The production is like all my favourite Prince songs very sparse. A great funky bass line, a simple keyboard riff carries the melody, and the trademark snare drum. Whether or not you like the Camille voice this has to be the best example of it. The speeded up lead vocal set against the slowed background voices manages to sound both macho and fey simultaneously - the essence of both this song, and Prince himself.

The structure of the song itself, as well as it's place within the structure of the album also work well. Set more or less in the middle between the dark and morose SOTT and the lush swooning Adore it finds itself somewhere between the two in tone also. For me it balances the whole album and provides its pivotal point. The intro to the song (the wedding march) is a surprise and along with the lyric place it firmly in its biographical context (written to Sussanah,who he'd been engaged to the previous year, and refering to her relationship with her sister Wendy,who was the most well known and popular member of the then recently disbanded Revolution). The song has a great bridge where the emotions bubble over then there is the whispered yet climactic outro.

I guess I got into Prince's music as i was attracted by his lack of inhibition when it came to marrying percieved opposites; male/female, black/white, religion/sex, gay/straight etc. For me this song is a lesson in how to do that with perfect harmony. It is simple, sexy, moving, sad, strange, clever, genuine and paradoxical - quintessentially Prince.



bow bow bow

plus, it has that magical ingredient that you simply can not put your
finger on. it's only in a handfull of his songs (Mountains for xample)

together with Moviestar and Crystal Ball, I could listen to them three
all day long, for weeks on end.
and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
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Reply #14 posted 03/02/05 10:11am

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vivid said:

Personally speaking I think this song encapsulates everything that is great about Prince's music.

The lyric is stunning. Prince has written some pretty slushy love songs but this one manages to be beautiful and moving, whilst also being intelligent, articulate and wonderfully phrased - poetry in fact. I believe an American feminist poet has used it in her lectures, which I'm sure can't be said for many of his ballads.

The melody is perfect. Simple and measured with each line sounding like a little waterfall cascading down the octave as he hypothesises being the 'girlfriend' in the 'if' clause, ending up in a deep little pool as he questions what his lover's reactions would then be to him, her man. The melody couldn't illustrate the lyric any better.

The production is like all my favourite Prince songs very sparse. A great funky bass line, a simple keyboard riff carries the melody, and the trademark snare drum. Whether or not you like the Camille voice this has to be the best example of it. The speeded up lead vocal set against the slowed background voices manages to sound both macho and fey simultaneously - the essence of both this song, and Prince himself.

The structure of the song itself, as well as it's place within the structure of the album also work well. Set more or less in the middle between the dark and morose SOTT and the lush swooning Adore it finds itself somewhere between the two in tone also. For me it balances the whole album and provides its pivotal point. The intro to the song (the wedding march) is a surprise and along with the lyric place it firmly in its biographical context (written to Sussanah,who he'd been engaged to the previous year, and refering to her relationship with her sister Wendy,who was the most well known and popular member of the then recently disbanded Revolution). The song has a great bridge where the emotions bubble over then there is the whispered yet climactic outro.

I guess I got into Prince's music as i was attracted by his lack of inhibition when it came to marrying percieved opposites; male/female, black/white, religion/sex, gay/straight etc. For me this song is a lesson in how to do that with perfect harmony. It is simple, sexy, moving, sad, strange, clever, genuine and paradoxical - quintessentially Prince.




And what this person said too!....damn...I shoulda read this b4 I posted...
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Reply #15 posted 03/02/05 10:12am

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BobGeorge909 said:

It's dripping style like a jherri curl drips juice. ..

say what !! lol
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Reply #16 posted 03/02/05 10:44am

1sexymf

I love IIWYG. It's a combination of the Camille voice and the beat. It has a sexy funky beat. It's a good song for an erotic dance. razz
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Reply #17 posted 03/02/05 10:56am

andykeen

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I dont think this is his best song ever, i just feel this his his best song lyrical wish, ofcourse there r sum great songs out there with fantastic lyrics but no 1 is close 2 this song!

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