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Printablegrandebelle said: fluid said: We all know Prince and Hendrix are/were 2 of the the most famous black quitarists.
They have produced wild stage shows,have this sort of spiritual sense,the both had songs that began with the word Purple. P is rebellous and free pirited just like Hendrix sometimes. He even wears clothing like Hendrix. Those are some of the similarities now what are the differences. P I like to say is a mixture of James Brown and Jimmy Hendrix. [i] Prince was not on hard heavy drugs like jimi. Jimi was a ROCK STAR with heavy psychedelic overtones. Prince is a MUSICIAN with heavy funk overtones. (yes, he twanged his ax with notes like Jimis, but their guitar STYLE is totally unique 2 his own) Prince LEARNED from JIMI and JAMES, and RAY, and STEVIE & SLY, etc. BUT he stands alone. He has his OWN style. I do think Prince is a hippie at heart in some ways though. But realize, in the 60's & early 70's, JIMI, JAMES, THE DOORS, ZEPPLIN, KISS, OZZY, etc. were all flamboyant on stage with their clothes & guitars & actions, as well as PRINCE. It was the ERA, Not any ONE artist actually. U cant compare Prince with ANYONE too closely. He developed his own. Theres NO one like him & NEVER was. Not saying Jimi wasnt GREAT, or the DOORS.  They were. But so is Prince. In his own WAY. Hes patented. Why do U think he carefully protects the RIGHTS 2 EVERYTHING about HIM?  One could say there are alot of similarities btween Prince & Elvis 2, but thats a whole other thread. .It's Zeppelin. Zeppelin, Zeppelin! Sorry, but people always forget the "e" in the middle. And personally I wouldn't put Zeppelin in the same category as Kiss.  They're not even on the same level as Zeppelin. Anyway, yeah I could compare Prince with many other artists, mainly ones that are already mentoined on this thread, such as: Sly, James Brown, Hendrix, Santana, Joni Mitchell, Little Richard, The Beatles....and so on. Obviously he has his own sound and everything, but without these other artists, Prince wouldn't be where he is today, musically/creatively speaking."I saw a woman with major Hammer pants on the subway a few weeks ago and totally thought of you." - sextonseven | |
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RazzBeret said: I love Prince, and I hate Jimi. There's a difference for ya.
How can you hate Jimi and love Prince? Seriously, there would BE NO Prince, at least not how we know him, if it were not for Jimi. Show some respect where it's due at least.  "I saw a woman with major Hammer pants on the subway a few weeks ago and totally thought of you." - sextonseven | |
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7salles said: We have to take this type of comments with a grain of salt. It is just speculation, nobody here saw Hendrix playing drums. So it's just like saying Prince is a good sax player. It can be taken as an argument in a Hendrix X Prince discussion.
Well the difference is that there isn't any documented evidence of prince playing the sax past junior high apart from some comment that Candy Dulfur once made that no one can remember the exact context, wording, or nature of ("Didnt' Candy once say he's 'the best 5'2'' sax player aroud'"). Eddie Kramer is a much more reliable source and no one has ever explicitly or straight-facedly cited an instance where prince played saxophone (after he gave it up in junior high). | |
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minneapolisgenius said: RazzBeret said: I love Prince, and I hate Jimi. There's a difference for ya.
How can you hate Jimi and love Prince? Seriously, there would BE NO Prince, at least not how we know him, if it were not for Jimi. Show some respect where it's due at least. Oh, trust me I have the utmost respect for Jimi Hendrix, but that doesn't mean I have to like him. | |
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RazzBeret said: I love Prince, and I hate Jimi. There's a difference for ya.
 . That is very strange that someone can outright hate Prince's number one inspiration and still be a prince fan | |
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jacktheimprovident said: RazzBeret said: I love Prince, and I hate Jimi. There's a difference for ya.
. That is very strange that someone can outright hate Prince's number one inspiration and still be a prince fanIn my opinion, I just find Jimi's music be very boring and bland, but hey, that's just my opinion. His music doesn't tickle my fancy like Prince's does. | |
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RazzBeret said: minneapolisgenius said: How can you hate Jimi and love Prince? Seriously, there would BE NO Prince, at least not how we know him, if it were not for Jimi. Show some respect where it's due at least. Oh, trust me I have the utmost respect for Jimi Hendrix, but that doesn't mean I have to like him. You can't respect someone and hate them at the same time. "I saw a woman with major Hammer pants on the subway a few weeks ago and totally thought of you." - sextonseven | |
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minneapolisgenius said: RazzBeret said: Oh, trust me I have the utmost respect for Jimi Hendrix, but that doesn't mean I have to like him. You can't respect someone and hate them at the same time. Says who? I respect Jimi Hendrix, the man, for his revolutionary style that would soon inspire many young artists. Well, come to think of it, I don't hate him, I hate his music. So yeah, I respect him, but dislike his music. | |
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RazzBeret said: minneapolisgenius said: You can't respect someone and hate them at the same time. Says who? I respect Jimi Hendrix, the man, for his revolutionary style that would soon inspire many young artists. Well, come to think of it, I don't hate him, I hate his music. So yeah, I respect him, but dislike his music. I have a feeling that you've really only heard maybe two songs by the man then. Like Purple Haze perhaps, and well, Purple Haze. "I saw a woman with major Hammer pants on the subway a few weeks ago and totally thought of you." - sextonseven | |
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minneapolisgenius said: RazzBeret said: Says who? I respect Jimi Hendrix, the man, for his revolutionary style that would soon inspire many young artists. Well, come to think of it, I don't hate him, I hate his music. So yeah, I respect him, but dislike his music. I have a feeling that you've really only heard maybe two songs by the man then. Like Purple Haze perhaps, and well, Purple Haze. Not really, a while back, I made a point out of going out and purchasing several of his cds and the "Jimi Hendrix" experience because I heard he was a person who inspired Prince, didn't really like any of it at all.  | |
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RazzBeret said: minneapolisgenius said: I have a feeling that you've really only heard maybe two songs by the man then. Like Purple Haze perhaps, and well, Purple Haze. Not really, a while back, I made a point out of going out and purchasing several of his cds and the "Jimi Hendrix" experience because I heard he was a person who inspired Prince, didn't really like any of it at all. A.Which "CDs" did you buy? Did you buy his actual albums or just overlapping compilations? Furthermore, did any of the CDs have titles like "Cry of love" or "rainbow bridge" or "voodoo soup" , cuz those were posthumously remixed outtakes exploited by dastardly producer alan douglas and most hendrix fans hate him for them.
B.The Jimi Hendrix experience is the name of his original band, with whom he made his only three studio albums. You seem to be ignorant of their existence based on your use of the "jimi hendrix experience" in quotations in reference to the compilation (which by the way is not a very good or recommended one), and thus very uninformed about his music. C.Go listen to his three albums (Are You Experienced?, Axis:Bold As Love, Electric Ladyland) all the way through one more time and if you still find it "boring" ( ) then I'm afraid you have no taste and there's no hope for you | |
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jacktheimprovident said: RazzBeret said: Not really, a while back, I made a point out of going out and purchasing several of his cds and the "Jimi Hendrix" experience because I heard he was a person who inspired Prince, didn't really like any of it at all. A.Which "CDs" did you buy? Did you buy his actual albums or just overlapping compilations? Furthermore, did any of the CDs have titles like "Cry of love" or "rainbow bridge" or "voodoo soup" , cuz those were posthumously remixed outtakes exploited by dastardly producer alan douglas and most hendrix fans hate him for them.
B.The Jimi Hendrix experience is the name of his original band, with whom he made his only three studio albums. You seem to be ignorant of their existence based on your use of the "jimi hendrix experience" in quotations in reference to the compilation (which by the way is not a very good or recommended one), and thus very uninformed about his music. C.Go listen to his three albums (Are You Experienced?, Axis:Bold As Love, Electric Ladyland) all the way through one more time and if you still find it "boring" ( ) then I'm afraid you have no taste and there's no hope for you Wow, I was unaware that I am not allowed to have my own musical taste, I do have "Are You Experienced" and "Electric Ladyland," not the other one though, and yes, I still do not like them. It seems I may actually have a different musical preference than you and some other people  is that ok? Or need I stereotype myself into the rest of the majority of the org population and like Jimi Hendrix just so I won't be flamed, or insulted for something that is totally my decision and preference? I hope you're not an adult, because if you are, you have just shown no maturity whatsoever, I'm afraid you have no taste and there's no hope for you <---That's the most childish thing I've ever heard! That's like you saying..."Oh, if you don't like what I like, then everything else you like is bad, because not liking what I like makes you totally obsolete!" Blah...I would expect better from an adult, and an orger, but I guess there are some childish adults out there.
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RazzBeret said: jacktheimprovident said: A.Which "CDs" did you buy? Did you buy his actual albums or just overlapping compilations? Furthermore, did any of the CDs have titles like "Cry of love" or "rainbow bridge" or "voodoo soup" , cuz those were posthumously remixed outtakes exploited by dastardly producer alan douglas and most hendrix fans hate him for them.
B.The Jimi Hendrix experience is the name of his original band, with whom he made his only three studio albums. You seem to be ignorant of their existence based on your use of the "jimi hendrix experience" in quotations in reference to the compilation (which by the way is not a very good or recommended one), and thus very uninformed about his music. C.Go listen to his three albums (Are You Experienced?, Axis:Bold As Love, Electric Ladyland) all the way through one more time and if you still find it "boring" ( ) then I'm afraid you have no taste and there's no hope for you Wow, I was unaware that I am not allowed to have my own musical taste, I do have "Are You Experienced" and "Electric Landlady," not the other one though, and yes, I still do not like them. It seems I may actually have a different musical preference than you and some other people is that ok? Or need I stereotype myself into the rest of the majority of the org population and like Jimi Hendrix just so I won't be flamed, or insulted for something that is totally my decision and preference? Electric LADYland. "I saw a woman with major Hammer pants on the subway a few weeks ago and totally thought of you." - sextonseven | |
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minneapolisgenius said: RazzBeret said: Wow, I was unaware that I am not allowed to have my own musical taste, I do have "Are You Experienced" and "Electric Landlady," not the other one though, and yes, I still do not like them. It seems I may actually have a different musical preference than you and some other people is that ok? Or need I stereotype myself into the rest of the majority of the org population and like Jimi Hendrix just so I won't be flamed, or insulted for something that is totally my decision and preference? Electric LADYland. Ladyland, landlady, they're basically homonyms, easy to get mixed up, I'm not a Hendrix expert. Other than picking on a petty gramatical error, I see you have nothing else to say about my legitimate, and truthful argument. [Edited 2/27/05 5:49am] | |
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RazzBeret said: minneapolisgenius said: Electric LADYland. Ladyland, landlady, they're basically homonyms, easy to get mixed up, I'm not a Hendrix expert. Other than picking on a petty gramatical error, I see you have nothing else to say about my legitimate, and truthful argument. [Edited 2/27/05 5:49am] If you own this album, I would expect you'd get the title correct is all. Your "legitimate and truthful argument" started out with this post: "I love Prince, and I hate Jimi. There's a difference for ya." Don't call other people childish if you're going to post opinions like the one above, and just leave it at that. You explained yourself, yes, but you have to expect that people are going to want you to elaborate on it because otherwise it just makes you sound uninformed. "I saw a woman with major Hammer pants on the subway a few weeks ago and totally thought of you." - sextonseven | |
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minneapolisgenius said: RazzBeret said: Ladyland, landlady, they're basically homonyms, easy to get mixed up, I'm not a Hendrix expert. Other than picking on a petty gramatical error, I see you have nothing else to say about my legitimate, and truthful argument. [Edited 2/27/05 5:49am] If you own this album, I would expect you'd get the title correct is all. Your "legitimate and truthful argument" started out with this post: "I love Prince, and I hate Jimi. There's a difference for ya." Don't call other people childish if you're going to post opinions like the one above, and just leave it at that. You explained yourself, yes, but you have to expect that people are going to want you to elaborate on it because otherwise it just makes you sound uninformed. Sorry I keep on pressing quote instead of edit [Edited 2/27/05 10:16am] | |
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RazzBeret said:[quote] minneapolisgenius said: If you own this album, I would expect you'd get the title correct is all. Your "legitimate and truthful argument" started out with this post: "I love Prince, and I hate Jimi. There's a difference for ya." Don't call other people childish if you're going to post opinions like the one above, and just leave it at that. You explained yourself, yes, but you have to expect that people are going to want you to elaborate on it because otherwise it just makes you sound uninformed. Another editing problem, sorry  [Edited 2/27/05 10:17am] | |
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RazzBeret said:[quote] minneapolisgenius said: If you own this album, I would expect you'd get the title correct is all. Your "legitimate and truthful argument" started out with this post: "I love Prince, and I hate Jimi. There's a difference for ya." Don't call other people childish if you're going to post opinions like the one above, and just leave it at that. You explained yourself, yes, but you have to expect that people are going to want you to elaborate on it because otherwise it just makes you sound uninformed. You just proved my point; it IS an opinion, and I don't recall shoving it in anyones face (unlike what was done to me) and I don't recall telling anyone that they had bad taste because of their musical preference. And I don't think "people wanting you to elaborate" translates into flaming and degrading me, since they were more concerned with my musical taste rather than how many albums I had, etc. And it seems like anyone who doesn't worship their guitar-God Jimi gets completely destroyed and ridiculed. And yes I do own the album, but I've only listened to it a couple times and hardly ever pay attention to it, so its easy to get the words "landlady" (since that is a real word would be the first thing that comes to mind) and "ladyland" mixed up.
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jacktheimprovident said: RazzBeret said: Not really, a while back, I made a point out of going out and purchasing several of his cds and the "Jimi Hendrix" experience because I heard he was a person who inspired Prince, didn't really like any of it at all. A.Which "CDs" did you buy? Did you buy his actual albums or just overlapping compilations? Furthermore, did any of the CDs have titles like "Cry of love" or "rainbow bridge" or "voodoo soup" , cuz those were posthumously remixed outtakes exploited by dastardly producer alan douglas and most hendrix fans hate him for them.
B.The Jimi Hendrix experience is the name of his original band, with whom he made his only three studio albums. You seem to be ignorant of their existence based on your use of the "jimi hendrix experience" in quotations in reference to the compilation (which by the way is not a very good or recommended one), and thus very uninformed about his music. C.Go listen to his three albums (Are You Experienced?, Axis:Bold As Love, Electric Ladyland) all the way through one more time and if you still find it "boring" ( ) then I'm afraid you have no taste and there's no hope for you I like "The Cry Of Love" and " and "Rainbow Bridge" , particularly "The Cry Of Love" ! On those albums nothing has been altered or added after Jimi's death (to my knowledge) with the exction of "Angel" on which the drums were recorded after I think you mean "Crash Landing" (which btw is crap indeed) | |
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Dewrede said: jacktheimprovident said: A.Which "CDs" did you buy? Did you buy his actual albums or just overlapping compilations? Furthermore, did any of the CDs have titles like "Cry of love" or "rainbow bridge" or "voodoo soup" , cuz those were posthumously remixed outtakes exploited by dastardly producer alan douglas and most hendrix fans hate him for them.
B.The Jimi Hendrix experience is the name of his original band, with whom he made his only three studio albums. You seem to be ignorant of their existence based on your use of the "jimi hendrix experience" in quotations in reference to the compilation (which by the way is not a very good or recommended one), and thus very uninformed about his music. C.Go listen to his three albums (Are You Experienced?, Axis:Bold As Love, Electric Ladyland) all the way through one more time and if you still find it "boring" ( ) then I'm afraid you have no taste and there's no hope for you I like "The Cry Of Love" and " and "Rainbow Bridge" , particularly "The Cry Of Love" ! On those albums nothing has been altered or added after Jimi's death (to my knowledge) with the exction of "Angel" on which the drums were recorded after I think you mean "Crash Landing" (which btw is crap indeed) See, this guy is a Jimi Hendrix fan, but he made a respectful and nice comment to my post, unlike some people. I thought that was Prince's policy; Luv4oneanother. | |
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RazzBeret said: Dewrede said: I like "The Cry Of Love" and " and "Rainbow Bridge" , particularly "The Cry Of Love" ! On those albums nothing has been altered or added after Jimi's death (to my knowledge) with the exction of "Angel" on which the drums were recorded after I think you mean "Crash Landing" (which btw is crap indeed) See, this guy is a Jimi Hendrix fan, but he made a respectful and nice comment to my post, unlike some people. I thought that was Prince's policy; Luv4oneanother. look dude, I'm sorry if I offended you. But A. I was being partly facetious B. I'm a confrontational and argumentative person who doesn't believe that opinion is above reproach so get used to it | |
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jacktheimprovident said: RazzBeret said: See, this guy is a Jimi Hendrix fan, but he made a respectful and nice comment to my post, unlike some people. I thought that was Prince's policy; Luv4oneanother. look dude, I'm sorry if I offended you. But A. I was being partly facetious B. I'm a confrontational and argumentative person who doesn't believe that opinion is above reproach so get used to it Well, I'm only 14 and I manage to control myself when I see people insulting(which I didn't even insult Jimi, I just said I didn't like him) some of my other favorite artists (Billy Joel,Elton John,Sting,etc.) on the Music Other Than Prince forum, but ok...  | |
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RazzBeret said:[quote] RazzBeret said: minneapolisgenius said: If you own this album, I would expect you'd get the title correct is all. Your "legitimate and truthful argument" started out with this post: "I love Prince, and I hate Jimi. There's a difference for ya." Don't call other people childish if you're going to post opinions like the one above, and just leave it at that. You explained yourself, yes, but you have to expect that people are going to want you to elaborate on it because otherwise it just makes you sound uninformed. You just proved my point; it IS an opinion, and I don't recall shoving it in anyones face (unlike what was done to me) and I don't recall telling anyone that they had bad taste because of their musical preference. And I don't think "people wanting you to elaborate" translates into flaming and degrading me, since they were more concerned with my musical taste rather than how many albums I had, etc. And it seems like anyone who doesn't worship their guitar-God Jimi gets completely destroyed and ridiculed. And yes I do own the album, but I've only listened to it a couple times and hardly ever pay attention to it, so its easy to get the words "landlady" (since that is a real word would be the first thing that comes to mind) and "ladyland" mixed up.
[Edited 2/27/05 10:19am] [Edited 2/27/05 10:24am] Just when did I flame you and tell you that you had bad taste? The only thing I said was to show some respect for Jimi's influence over music as we know it today. That and I corrected you on the title of an album. "I saw a woman with major Hammer pants on the subway a few weeks ago and totally thought of you." - sextonseven | |
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minneapolisgenius said: RazzBeret said: You just proved my point; it IS an opinion, and I don't recall shoving it in anyones face (unlike what was done to me) and I don't recall telling anyone that they had bad taste because of their musical preference. And I don't think "people wanting you to elaborate" translates into flaming and degrading me, since they were more concerned with my musical taste rather than how many albums I had, etc. And it seems like anyone who doesn't worship their guitar-God Jimi gets completely destroyed and ridiculed. And yes I do own the album, but I've only listened to it a couple times and hardly ever pay attention to it, so its easy to get the words "landlady" (since that is a real word would be the first thing that comes to mind) and "ladyland" mixed up.
[Edited 2/27/05 10:19am] [Edited 2/27/05 10:24am] Just when did I flame you and tell you that you had bad taste? The only thing I said was to show some respect for Jimi's influence over music as we know it today. That and I corrected you on the title of an album. I didn't say you did, but you did acknowledge that the person who did was correct, so that's just as bad, if not worse, than actually doing it. [Edited 2/27/05 16:31pm] | |
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RazzBeret said: minneapolisgenius said: Just when did I flame you and tell you that you had bad taste? The only thing I said was to show some respect for Jimi's influence over music as we know it today. That and I corrected you on the title of an album. I didn't say you did, but you did acknowledge that the person who did was correct, so that's just as bad, if not worse, than actually doing it. [Edited 2/27/05 16:31pm] Scroll back up and read.  I've never once responded in any way to anything jacktheimprovident said about your musical taste. Show me where."I saw a woman with major Hammer pants on the subway a few weeks ago and totally thought of you." - sextonseven | |
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Wow. this is a heavy thread. Another attempt to try to rationalize Prince into being the so-called "greatest" guitarist? LOL! This is ONLY a debate on Prince.org. In the real world, Jimi has influenced many more guitar players than Prince ever will. The fact is Prince's guitar vocabulary is limited. It always has been. IMO Prince isn't as good of a guitarist as Jesse Johnson, let alone Jimi Hendrix. As usual, people try to bring in diversity of styles to attempt to back up their rationalization. Again, meaningless. Diversity does NOT equal greatness. Just because someone plays a larger variation of styles doesn't make them better on an instrument. Its not that Prince is underrated as a guitarist, there are just too many great guitarists for Prince to weigh in against them. He is good. There is no question that he is good and can hold his own on guitar, but he is not groundbreaking in any way as a player. Diversity cannot save that fact. Session guitarists HAVE to play a variety of styles to feed their families. Just because Prince is famous, that does not make him any different than a session guitarist in that respect. Jimi was an innovator. He layed the foundation for an entire genre. Prince has not done this. Prince is very prolific and has a huge catalog of songs, but he has yet to innovate in the way that Jimi has. As popular as Prince is, it is unreasonable to belive the silly notion that people just don't know how good of a guitarist Prince is. There's too much reference material to dispute that claim. The fact is people know; he's just not as great to the masses as Prince fans think he is. Jimi, on the other hand, had a relatively short career and made an impact that will stretch far beyond his own existence. Plus, if you take what Jimi was doing on guitar at his age and compare it to what Prince was doing on guitar when he was Jimi's age, the end result is laughably in favor of Jimi. The fact that Prince CHOSE to play more instruments in the studio is irrelevant and not an excuse. If we are going to make excuses, one could say that Prince had more reference material (including Jimi's entire body of work), more resources and a larger pool of musicians to choose from to aid in his advancement as a guitarist. Prince chose the one man band route and it has stunned his advancement on individual instruments, while elevating his skills as an arranger. For some artists like Stanley Clarke, that isn't the case but for Prince it seems to be. Then again, Stanley doesn't dance like Prince and IMO is not quite the vocalist Prince is, although he plays way more actual instruments than Prince does at a higher degree of proficiency. Prince is good on 4 instruments, but GREAT on none. All that 26 + instruments is just bullshit straight from the press kits of Warner Brothers and true Prince fans know it.
Jimi is hailed as great because he innovated and was miles ahead of his peers. Prince is respected as good because he has NOT innovated or displayed a higher degree of proficiency than his peers on guitar, but has displayed enough proficiency to prove that he is good. Prince's greatness is in his ability to blend various styles of music and formulate his own sound; not in being one of the greatest innovators on guitar. | |
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