7salles said: I love montgomery, and i haven't said nothing bad against him. SOrry if i was rude, but you talked as the distortion was used always to hide lack of skills, and it is not the truth. It is required some skills even to a jazz player to play well with distortion or he will end up like pet metheny (absolute jazz genious) when he tried. Not far from mediocre.
I hate Pat metheny. I call his style "intellectual masturbation". Hendrix has created a very specific sound but other geniuses have created their own sound before him and have had a great impact on Music. As Hendrix is dead, nobody has the right to criticize him. Again I love him. He was a genius. But he has been shit as well many times in his short career when he was stone. And that's when his music was going nowhere. The same thing happened to Charlie Parker before him unfortunately. Il n'y a pas de sentiment plus exaltant que celui d'appartenir à une nation si diverse, si libre et si douée pour le bonheur. | |
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ummm...Jimi was a junkie and Prince is a humpie?
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Serena said: ummm...Jimi was a junkie and Prince is a humpie?
Thread Title: it's my understanding that jimi wasn't quite the junkie he's been cut out to be and that he was very professional in the studio (ie he didn't record high like the stones or the beatles or sly). I'm not gonna try to compare jimi and wes montgomery, but back to the prince comparison, if you think Jimi couldn't be funky you're dead wrong. Go back and listen to ladyland, band of gypsies, first rays, or south saturn delta, Jimi was one of the pioneers of funk rock and his guitar playing left as much an impact on funk as it did on rock | |
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fluid said: We all know Prince and Hendrix are/were 2 of the the most famous black quitarists.
Don't forget Slash. In Prince's 1985 Rolling Stone interview, he said the only reason folks compare him to Hendrix is because they're both black. The Purple One said his playing is closer to Santana's. | |
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Its always easiar to build a pretty house after the foundation is laid!
You have to study music history and listen to what rock sounded like before Hendrix hit the scene. John Lennon was quated as saying " We went to see Hendrix an after the show we were terrified! We were thinking..This guy is going to put us out of business!" Thats how inovative Jimi was. He did things that were never done before. Now all these cats think their hot when they can play his stuff, but thats not whats hot! What hot is that he came up with that shit! Jimi was a true inovator and every great guitarist after him has been influenced by him! Prince is a great showman and fuser fo musical styles, But almost everything he has done I can trace back to someone else. Not taking anything away from him,He's a badd ass! But Jimi is in a different stratusphere. Next level... [Edited 2/21/05 17:50pm] | |
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Dissonance said: Its always easiar to build a pretty house after the foundation is laid!
You have to study music history and listen to what rock sounded like before Hendrix hit the scene. John Lennon was quated as saying " We went to see Hendrix an after the show we were terrified! We were thinking..This guy is going to put us out of business!" Thats how inovative Jimi was. He did things that were never done before. Now all these cats think their hot when they can play his stuff, but thats not whats hot! What hot is that he came up with that shit! Jimi was a true inovator and every great guitarist after him has been influenced by him! Prince is a great showman and fuser fo musical styles, But almost everything he has done I can trace back to someone else. Not taking anything away from him,He's a badd ass! But Jimi is in a different stratusphere. Next level... [Edited 2/21/05 17:50pm] Though, you're forgetting pete townshend, jeff beck and eric clapton, all the reigning british blues-rock revisionist guitar virtuosos. They were also terrified of him because he'd come over and beaten them at their own game. Now of course nothing's created in a vacuum and hendrix found inspiration from the yardbirds and cream and the blues artists that they themselves were inspired by, but Hendrix totally dazzled them, and the great bluesmen regarded him as their peer, something for which clapton envied him. | |
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Stevie Ray Vaughn the "Hendrix" of our time? Ray over Prince.....come on!
I thought the fact that Prince had Purple Rain and Hendrix had Purple Haze that would make it undeniable. Working up a purple sweat. | |
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To call Prince the "hendrix" of our time is to put Prince under Hendrix. I don't think that's accurate.
Prince has his own unique wonderful sound. Hendrix had his own as well. This argument is like arguing if an apple is better than an orange. Hendrix's influences were Wes and Buddy Guy. Hendrix's music has been exploited because he's dead. Prince is underrated and underappreciated because he's alive and won't get his dues until he does die and they make a movie about him. Dirt &Earthyvibes http://www.dirt.bz Dirt Music | |
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Dirt said: To call Prince the "hendrix" of our time is to put Prince under Hendrix. I don't think that's accurate.
Prince has his own unique wonderful sound. Hendrix had his own as well. This argument is like arguing if an apple is better than an orange. Hendrix's influences were Wes and Buddy Guy. Hendrix's music has been exploited because he's dead. Prince is underrated and underappreciated because he's alive and won't get his dues until he does die and they make a movie about him. Dirt &Earthyvibes http://www.dirt.bz Dirt Music Sad but you are sooo right. 50-100 yrs from now he'll be hailed like Mozart! Good thing he keeps ownership his VAULT! He probobly has enough material to release an album for the next hundred years. His great grand kids will be loaded! If he has any.... | |
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And another thing, you cant compare a guy that in the 60's with a guy from the 80's about inovation and originality. IT was VERY much easier to be inovative in Hendrix's time. In the 70's all great albums were somehow inovative, everything was a new direction, in the 80's music, rock, guitar, funk was already saturated, one of the only ways to be inovative was to e a hybrid and put a personal twist in the middle, that was what Prince did. | |
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U are talking about Prince/Hendrix...and what about ZAPPA who influenced Prince in some Way 2 > Prince is a mixture from HENDRIX/ZAPPA/Santana/Sly/the Beatles and JB Styles in one person.....!!!!! | |
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7salles said: And another thing, you cant compare a guy that in the 60's with a guy from the 80's about inovation and originality. IT was VERY much easier to be inovative in Hendrix's time. In the 70's all great albums were somehow inovative, everything was a new direction, in the 80's music, rock, guitar, funk was already saturated, one of the only ways to be inovative was to e a hybrid and put a personal twist in the middle, that was what Prince did.
Very true. It's gonna be more and more difficult to be really innovative in the future. So much has been done already. You really wonder who's gonna be able to come up with something new and fresh in the future. [Edited 2/22/05 4:12am] Il n'y a pas de sentiment plus exaltant que celui d'appartenir à une nation si diverse, si libre et si douée pour le bonheur. | |
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Dissonance said: But Jimi is in a different stratusphere. Next level...
This is very harsh for Prince. For me they are two complete different musicians with different qualities. If you talk only "guitar play", of course Hendrix was way better. Now when it comes to other instruments like bass and keyboards for instance, well... Prince is one of the most versatile musicians ever. he is not the best at any intrument but, man, he can play any instrument in so many different ways that it is really scary. For me, they are in the same stratosphere = pure geniuses. Il n'y a pas de sentiment plus exaltant que celui d'appartenir à une nation si diverse, si libre et si douée pour le bonheur. | |
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Il n'y a pas de sentiment plus exaltant que celui d'appartenir à une nation si diverse, si libre et si douée pour le bonheur.
Alors là je suis + que d'accord...et je dirais même + que je suis d'autant + d'accord que C vrai!! Peace | |
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The man's name is "Jimi" if u cant get it right.. call him "James" or Mr.Hendrix | |
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love2thenines2003 said: Il n'y a pas de sentiment plus exaltant que celui d'appartenir à une nation si diverse, si libre et si douée pour le bonheur.
Alors là je suis + que d'accord...et je dirais même + que je suis d'autant + d'accord que C vrai!! Peace Merci l'ami ! Il n'y a pas de sentiment plus exaltant que celui d'appartenir à une nation si diverse, si libre et si douée pour le bonheur. | |
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TheRealFiness said: The man's name is "Jimi" if u cant get it right.. call him "James" or Mr.Hendrix if ur nasty!"We've never been able to pull off a funk number"
"That's becuase we're soulless auttomatons" | |
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No one has been able to fuse so many different gendres on music, put their own spin on it and sell it to the masses without compromising their artistry and creativity the way Prince has period. Prince's sound is undeniably his whether it's Reflection or Rock Hard In a Funky Place. Prince admired musicians from all walks of music. So you could say P is a modern day Jimi, but then you would also have to mention he is a female Joni, a young James B., a black Elvis, Stevie with sight, a short slim George Clinton, a one man Earth Wind and Fire, the Beatles minus 3, Duke Ellington without Strayhorn etc. etc. It's silly to compare P to anyone because he has so many obvious influences, but in the end he is incomparable because he is undeniably P. | |
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fluid said: However you all feel you have to admit Prince is the Hendrix of our time.
Or Liberace. | |
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BeautifulFrance said: Dissonance said: But Jimi is in a different stratusphere. Next level...
This is very harsh for Prince. For me they are two complete different musicians with different qualities. If you talk only "guitar play", of course Hendrix was way better. Now when it comes to other instruments like bass and keyboards for instance, well... Prince is one of the most versatile musicians ever. he is not the best at any intrument but, man, he can play any instrument in so many different ways that it is really scary. For me, they are in the same stratosphere = pure geniuses. Hendrix played more than just guitar. He played a number of the bass parts on his albums (including bass solos), piano and harpishord when it was needed, whatever less conventional instrument he felt like using (xylophone, tympani, flute) and even layed the drum tracks on his demos. The only thing prince could do that hendrix couldn't was the splits | |
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Novabreaker said: fluid said: However you all feel you have to admit Prince is the Hendrix of our time.
Or Liberace. LOL | |
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considering Jimi Hendrix was a LEFT HANDED guitarist, he took his guitar, put it upside down and put the strings on differently, which makes it capable for better notes and higher cuts and better riffs.
Prince is a right handed guitarist, that's why it makes Jimi Hendrix a lot more rare and valuable. Not saying Prince isn't a bad guitarist (I consider him on a greatest lists) but I don't think he could've touched what Jimi had. [Edited 2/22/05 17:21pm] Sex Kitten
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jacktheimprovident said: BeautifulFrance said: This is very harsh for Prince. For me they are two complete different musicians with different qualities. If you talk only "guitar play", of course Hendrix was way better. Now when it comes to other instruments like bass and keyboards for instance, well... Prince is one of the most versatile musicians ever. he is not the best at any intrument but, man, he can play any instrument in so many different ways that it is really scary. For me, they are in the same stratosphere = pure geniuses. Hendrix played more than just guitar. He played a number of the bass parts on his albums (including bass solos), piano and harpishord when it was needed, whatever less conventional instrument he felt like using (xylophone, tympani, flute) and even layed the drum tracks on his demos. The only thing prince could do that hendrix couldn't was the splits The only thing Prince can do that hendrix couldn't was the splits?? Please. Prince can do a lot of shit Hendrix couldn't. Should we start at singing? "New Power slide...." | |
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I can't believe this topic is still happening.
If the young-uns want to believe Prince is better than Hendrix, whatever, have fun with it. LQ | |
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skywalker said: jacktheimprovident said: Hendrix played more than just guitar. He played a number of the bass parts on his albums (including bass solos), piano and harpishord when it was needed, whatever less conventional instrument he felt like using (xylophone, tympani, flute) and even layed the drum tracks on his demos. The only thing prince could do that hendrix couldn't was the splits The only thing Prince can do that hendrix couldn't was the splits?? Please. Prince can do a lot of shit Hendrix couldn't. Should we start at singing? sure let's start with singing, hendrix is also a highly underrated vocalist, and even if prince has more technical vocal ability, his voice isn't as appealing, in fact a lot of people find it grating, it's one the major reasons I have trouble converting people to prince. | |
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TheRealFiness said: The man's name is "Jimi" if u cant get it right.. call him "James" or Mr.Hendrix
Thank u. SynthiaRose said "I'm in love with blackguitaristz. Especially when he talks about Hendrix."
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Seriously, u would have gotten a lot more action if u had placed the ad over in the Non Music section. Over there isn't as "fan" based and definately more open minded. SynthiaRose said "I'm in love with blackguitaristz. Especially when he talks about Hendrix."
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jacktheimprovident said: skywalker said: The only thing Prince can do that hendrix couldn't was the splits?? Please. Prince can do a lot of shit Hendrix couldn't. Should we start at singing? sure let's start with singing, hendrix is also a highly underrated vocalist, and even if prince has more technical vocal ability, his voice isn't as appealing, in fact a lot of people find it grating, it's one the major reasons I have trouble converting people to prince. Okay---Jimi doesn't have nearly the range or the depth that Prince does. He is a decent vocalist but imagine him trying to layer his voices like Prince does in "7". Imagine Jimi tring to sing acapella like Prince does in "for You". Jimi can do bar room blues with his voice. Prince can do that and numerous other styles. Speaking of styles, how many musical styles/genres does Jimi cover???? Not as many as Prince, my friend. Not even close. It's not Jimi's fault---it has more to do with his age/era. "New Power slide...." | |
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skywalker said: jacktheimprovident said: sure let's start with singing, hendrix is also a highly underrated vocalist, and even if prince has more technical vocal ability, his voice isn't as appealing, in fact a lot of people find it grating, it's one the major reasons I have trouble converting people to prince. Okay---Jimi doesn't have nearly the range or the depth that Prince does. He is a decent vocalist but imagine him trying to layer his voices like Prince does in "7". Imagine Jimi tring to sing acapella like Prince does in "for You". Jimi can do bar room blues with his voice. Prince can do that and numerous other styles. Speaking of styles, how many musical styles/genres does Jimi cover???? Not as many as Prince, my friend. Not even close. It's not Jimi's fault---it has more to do with his age/era. Spoken like someone who really doesn't know squat about jimi's music. Listen to first rays of the rising sun sometimes, hendrix's voice is quite powerful. and in terms of eclectic, prince isn't as eclectic as his diehard fans make him out to be, he's primarily just funk-rock. Jimi not only COVERED as many styles as prince (funk, rock, blues, R&b, jazz(Merman and 3rd stone from the sun alone are superior to any attempt at jazz I've heard from prince so far), folk, psychedelia) he helped DEFINE some of them (psychedelia, funk and hard rock would all not be the same if not for Hendrix). | |
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jacktheimprovident said:[quote] BeautifulFrance said: Hendrix played more than just guitar. He played a number of the bass parts on his albums (including bass solos), piano and harpishord when it was needed, whatever less conventional instrument he felt like using (xylophone, tympani, flute) and even layed the drum tracks on his demos. The only thing prince could do that hendrix couldn't was the splits Funny. I have never heard Jimy being Funky...You know jamming like on Housequake. No Jimy could not do the split and could have never funked like Prince does. Period. Sorry for you mate. Il n'y a pas de sentiment plus exaltant que celui d'appartenir à une nation si diverse, si libre et si douée pour le bonheur. | |
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