i made this topic,because i was annoyed by reading messages,
and topics of many orgers who think revolution was something special.
they were not.
ok matt fink was great keyboard player,but wendy melvoin was awful guitar player.
all of her guitar lead lines were disconected,very amaterish.

i laugh everytime i hear her live intro
to when doves cry(prince done 10 times better job in the studio.)
many ppl think that wendy and lisa wrote "purple rain" due to fictional script of the movie purple rain.

that is not true.
prince started playing chords ,
for purple rain during 1982 when the 1999 tour was going on.

wendy even wasn't in the band.

prince gave his backing band name because in that period of the 80-s most of the chart toppers were bands like van halen,bon jovi,deff lepard,motley crue...

even deaf men can hear that all albums during the time with the revoulution were pure prince.every lick,everything sounded like him.

i only can hear some minor orcestral parts that were probably conducted by "fabulous duo "wendy and lisa.
after he disbanded the revolution band,prince continued to make great music,sometime with more or less sucess.

today if he reunite with the revolution we would see old tired ppl trying to get funky,and magic would be gone if that happened.

and one think about his new band. maybe mike scott don't have carisma but prince don't need him anyway.

i always prefaired prince to be only guitar player in his bands.
you can't tell me that rhonda ,john ,candy,maceo,renato dont have carisma.

all shows i saw on video by the new baND LOOKED LIKE PRince and the band were realy having fun.
prince imporoves himself when he got skilled musicians around him.
listen to his great tight drumming on glass cutter.

listen to bass duo with rhonda on lets work.
or amazing peformance of shhh on hong kong rocks.
prince is living in the 2005 so it wont be bad if you do too.

Xtract from "genius, a gift of GOD"

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I think assuming Prince had little to diverse sounds and musical insights prior to meeting Wendy and Lisa robs him of the genius that defines him. Certainly, Prince was influenced by the likes of a good many rock, punk, funk, 60s and 70s R&B and disco-era musicians. A simple look at his aesthetic, his attitude in lyrics and musical style of anything pre-Purple Rain suggests this. Still, mastery of certain popular musical styles and exposure to those forms that are more obscure are two different sides of same coin. Having the daring and prowess to successfully incorporate those more murky influences into one’s future work is something even further, and I definitely think the classically trained Wendy and Lisa were instrumental and unparalleled by any Prince cohorts before or since in “bringing in the arcane” and helping to bolster the scope of his artistic vision.

Just listen to the evolution of the music: I love the pre-PurpleRain canon. It’s funky, attitudinal, uniquely, coloured by Prince’s talent and sensibilities, but it’s definitely time-stamped by the popular sounds of the era – sort of a Clash-meets-Donna Summer-meets-Devo-meets-Rufus-concoction. And it’s fairly stylistically unchanging at that. Take away Prince’s unique vocal stylings, and those instrumentals could easily be releases by a number of bands from Chic to Rick James on the funk/R&B side to Tom Tom club or Blondie on the “blue-eyed funk”/rock/punk side. Prince’s sound was not unique, and with the exception surfacing only at the maturation of certain musical eccentricities and trademarks of 1999, it was easily duplicated.

Interestingly enough, everyone wanted to sound like Prince with the coming of the more collaborative Purple Rain, a totally new artistic plateau for Prince, which boasted both more pop sensibilities (catchier melodies, radio-friendliness, better production) AND superior musicianship (richer aural textures and orchestrations [the use of strings was maximized here], more sophisticated compositions, etc.) And look at the ground he treaded from ’83 to ’87: He’d touched upon everything from the instruments of the middle- and far east to the jazzy/retro/mod sounds and arrangements of Alexa de Paris and Crystal Ball to backmasking to even the prominent sound of brass, which earlier in his career he’d been quoted as saying he hated. I’m sorry, but while I think Prince has range, those influences came from somewhere.

Furthermore, much has been circulated by a number of people around at the time about the party with which Prince engaged Wendy and Lisa from a creative standpoint and the high level of input they brought to the table. I simply don’t think the corroborating stories are lies…and I’ve never heard Prince refute any claims Wendy and Lisa contributed greatly to his Revolution-era output. There are a great array of credits to Wendy and Lisa, and clearly even beyond individual songs such as Power Fantastic, they offered so much more that was vital to Prince while they were around – enigma, the babe factor, the ethnic and gender diversity etc.

No one’s saying Wendy and Lisa did it all. And, of course, no one can divine whether Prince would have ventured into/mastered these things without meeting Wendy and Lisa. But the fact of the matter is, he did meet them, and he reached new heights while they were around. And after they left, while his scope of vision had been forever broadened, his work did transform (some say steadily degrade) with the coming and going of other musicians who, while some of them could play their asses off, weren’t as conceptually gifted.
Lammastide

the Revolution was/is my personal favorite of all of Prince's bands.
i have a pretty good life too!
it is o.k to like what you like....right?

thebanishedone said:

The bands after Lovesexy have zero charisma.....Candy was cute in the batman days but please she shouln't try to sing, ever.....the rest are excellent musicians but are just that, musicians...technically superior but bland(maceo excepted)

what made the revolution cool was their "garage" like quality..it was like Prince got some of his HS friends together and made a band...THe SOTT/Lovesexy era had the advantage of having Sheila on the drums but guys like Miko and Levi were a step down from W&L...

There is a difference between techincal musicianship and just plain old accidental artful chemistry...sure your band has got to be tight...but sometimes it can be too tight and it loses its magic...

of course if the Revolution got together again it wouldnt be the same...but bruce still tours with the e-street band....why cant P????
[Edited 2/19/05 6:11am]

a couple questions for you thread author..


1) who are you to tell anyone how they should feel?

2) why are you judging other people for their own personal taste?

3) bait....

one other things...

respect others opinions and they will respect yours...

Anji said:

Bullshit. When Prince released his first two albums he was very young and tryinmg to prove himself and trying to be sucessfull. Dirt Mind and Controversy has moments that show Prince was being inovative, and even experimental with Annie Christian for example. Dirt Mind was very inovative, it was the minneapolis sound and was far from sounding like other artists.


"Interestingly enough, everyone wanted to sound like Prince with the coming of the more collaborative Purple Rain, a totally new artistic plateau for Prince, which boasted both more pop sensibilities (catchier melodies, radio-friendliness, better production) AND superior musicianship (richer aural textures and orchestrations [the use of strings was maximized here], more sophisticated compositions, etc.)"

Bullshit again. Everyone wanted to sound like Prince because he had a smash hit, not because of his sound. If Prince was playing polka music with a punky feel and was as sucessful as he was with Purple Rain people would follow him too. And another thing, the best songs from Purple Rain is pure Prince. Darling Nikki, When DOves Cry, Lets GO crazy and Computer Blue (Even wendy said that credits apart, they made close to nothign on this track)

"And look at the ground he treaded from ’83 to ’87: He’d touched upon everything from the instruments of the middle- and far east to the jazzy/retro/mod sounds and arrangements of Alexa de Paris and Crystal Ball to backmasking to even the prominent sound of brass, which earlier in his career he’d been quoted as saying he hated. I’m sorry, but while I think Prince has range, those influences came from somewhere."

Came from the growing of an artist. Looking back and looking after this, he proved that he was the true genious.

"Furthermore, much has been circulated by a number of people around at the time about the party with which Prince engaged Wendy and Lisa from a creative standpoint and the high level of input they brought to the table. I simply don’t think the corroborating stories are lies…and I’ve never heard Prince refute any claims Wendy and Lisa contributed greatly to his Revolution-era output. There are a great array of credits to Wendy and Lisa, and clearly even beyond individual songs such as Power Fantastic, they offered so much more that was vital to Prince while they were around – enigma, the babe factor, the ethnic and gender diversity etc.

No one’s saying Wendy and Lisa did it all. And, of course, no one can divine whether Prince would have ventured into/mastered these things without meeting Wendy and Lisa. But the fact of the matter is, he did meet them, and he reached new heights while they were around. And after they left, while his scope of vision had been forever broadened, his work did transform (some say steadily degrade) with the coming and going of other musicians who, while some of them could play their asses off, weren’t as conceptually gifted.
Lammastide"

Wendy and Lisa aside, Prince would know jazz, classic, bossa nova or the hell what they showed him with another persons and by others way. maybe they were only the instruments that showed him it. But He had his vision and ears and ALL credit is due to him cause he incorporated what they showed to HIS sound. It's like giving creative credits to television cause you saw a documentary about classical music and got inspired.

this is a site for prince FANS banished
and prince was played with the revolution
if you dont like that fact
go stick a tree up your ass

get a life?
get out of my life
[Edited 2/19/05 6:44am]

LONG LIVE 2 PRINCE&THE REVOLUTION.....THAT'S IT.....!

PEACE&MY LOVE 2 PRINCE/WENDY&LISA!

thebanishedone said:

Obviously you weren't there to first-hand experience "The Revolution", so you haven't got a clue what you're babbling about...

Neversin.

WHAT???
I am sorry sir, and I don't want 2 cause U any trouble or pain, but U R way off base about The Revolution, and frankly U don't know what the hell U R talkin' about.

1) wrong forum.

2) nice bait. i'm snipping your hook & line.