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Reply #30 posted 02/18/05 1:47pm

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laurarichardson said:

DigitalLisa3000 said:

As alot of u may have know, Prince was a artist who mastered the skill of adding a bit of mystery to genera in music, but as I've done a lot of studying both in religion & music, I've come 2 the analysis a lot of prince music. especially back in the days represented the works of witchcraft, particular (Wicca). Through out the course of career, he have written lyrics about a witch (shockadelica). Of course this all just a assumption of mines. A lot of prince music was symbliminal. He talks about things only he knew what truth was hidden inside, knowing what I know based on the religion and the music, looking at the cover of purple rain, remembering the live performances of the concert. I’ve come to the conclusion that prince may have been inspired by some the Wicca’s beliefs, art and tactics. Prince has grown a lot over the years, both as a man and musician, even though it was something he may have been interested in at one time, I don’t necessarily believe it’s apart of his message in music today. He pretty much as expressed how he’s dedicated to Jehovah which ticked a lot of the fans off, who don’t believe in God but choose a alternative religion such what is named above. Anyways this is all just a assumption. I’m putting 2 +2 2gether, as far as I’m concerned it makes a whole lot of sense.

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Being a fan from the 1999 era and an African-American I can say that some people find P a little spooky.

Some people think he want down to the crossroads and made a deal with devil and I think it has a lot to do with the following things.

1 Working 20 hours a day on music.
2.Mastering so many insturtments.
3.Doing outragous things in his carreer and getting away with it.
4. All the woman that seem to follow him around as if he were a Pied Piper.
5. Building a mystic around himself with lies and half-truths to the point were
public did not know what was real or fake.

I don't think P made a deal with anyone but, I can see why you would think he had some knowledge of the dark arts. I think he just works hard, is very talented and has been really lucky.

I like a rock from the 60's, like santana and the who, but I know for a fact back in the days a lot of those rock groups did in fact make a deal with the devil, in exchange 4 money, women & fame. What Prince did in the mid 80's From 1999 2 Around the world in the day in my opinnion was influenced from the rock style in the 60's. Maybe I'm getting a little bit 2 deep in2 this, but if I look at the overall picture the very person we all look up as our hero could or may have very well been evil.....

cool lol
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Reply #31 posted 02/18/05 9:33pm

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2 of my friends say he looks like the devil sad

i just showed them some lyrics from rainbow children to shut them up
You saw the apple
hanging on the tree,
But missed the orchid
in your gaze
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Reply #32 posted 02/20/05 12:10pm

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blackguitaristz said:

laurarichardson said:


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Being a fan from the 1999 era and an African-American I can say that some people find P a little spooky.

Some people think he want down to the crossroads and made a deal with devil and I think it has a lot to do with the following things.

1 Working 20 hours a day on music.
2.Mastering so many insturtments.
3.Doing outragous things in his carreer and getting away with it.
4. All the woman that seem to follow him around as if he were a Pied Piper.
5. Building a mystic around himself with lies and half-truths to the point were
public did not know what was real or fake.

I don't think P made a deal with anyone but, I can see why you would think he had some knowledge of the dark arts. I think he just works hard, is very talented and has been really lucky.


No, u are not far off. During his second album, he got a lot of coverage from Black music magazines and teen mags. Right On! and later, Black Beat. Anyway, around 79, black girls LOVED Prince. Bigtime. Then when P released Dirty Mind, some girls thought he looked "kinda weird". BUT when P came out with "Controversy" in 81, that's when I heard the most backlash from the same black girls and others. My friends parents or their elders, uncles, aunts, grandparents, etc. Everyone to some extent commented on P's eyes and how he looked "evil". The same girls who adored P just two years earlier were now scared to death of him. That stayed with P easily up untill 85. P played with imagery and backward masking in the same vein as Led Zeppelin, Bowie and The Stones. There is no doubt about that.

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I know I was one of those black girls. I was creeped out around the Controversy period and creeped out about the backwards messages in his songs. However, I am still a fan of his music but, I would never want to meet this guy or get on his bad side.(LOL)
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Reply #33 posted 02/20/05 12:49pm

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Anxiety said:

This reminds me of is was this one time when I felt a really strong dryness inside me, like around my throatal region and areas, and it occurred to me that I needed to do something about this parchitude sensation and that I had certain resources in my reach with which I could cure myself of my throatal aridity; so what I did was I traversed from the room in which I keep my sofa, television, area rugs, and general lounging necessities, and I journeyed across the studio apartment which I began renting almost four years ago until I found myself in another room in this space, which has a device with dials which heats digestibles and another device - a kind of basin surrounded by cupboards - which features an on/off device - some might call it a dispenser - which allows one to access a clear, taste-free liquid. It was this liquid which I journeyed to this part of my living space - this "kitchen", as I call it - to acquire. I knew that if I could put this liquid inside my body somehow, I could improve the nagging dryness in my throatal region. At this point, I opened one of the cupboards (which you probably know as little closet-like box things that hang from the walls and have doors on them and shelves inside - other people call them 'cabinets') and procured a cylindrical glass object which was sealed at one end, and open at the other. At this point, it occurred to me that I could place the glass cylinder under the on/off liquid dispenser, and the liquid (which Native Americans call 'water') would catch in the glass object. So I carried through with this plan, and eventually had enough liquid (or 'water') to lift to my face, and force into my head by way of opening my mouth and pouring the liquid into my head. And with the pouring of the liquid, as I suspected, the throatal dryness was no more. And this is why Prince & wicca = Witchcraft.

That is all.


Now that shit was funny!!! biggrin biggrin
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Reply #34 posted 02/20/05 2:04pm

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No offense, but your views are far-fetched at best. Before diving into any "religion" head first, read the Holy Bible, and see what God really says. Not what man has twisted over the years.
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Reply #35 posted 02/20/05 2:13pm

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jstarr2000 said:

No offense, but your views are far-fetched at best. Before diving into any "religion" head first, read the Holy Bible, and see what God really says. Not what man has twisted over the years.


PLEASE don't state your opinions about the Bible as fact, you show yourself to be a complete idiot.
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Reply #36 posted 02/20/05 3:07pm

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MetroArea said:

jstarr2000 said:

No offense, but your views are far-fetched at best. Before diving into any "religion" head first, read the Holy Bible, and see what God really says. Not what man has twisted over the years.


PLEASE don't state your opinions about the Bible as fact, you show yourself to be a complete idiot.

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Because someone takes the Bible as fact does not make them an idiot. It is called faith. No one went off on this thread about Wicca or Pagan beliefs so way go to name calling on a Christian.
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Reply #37 posted 02/20/05 3:11pm

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I'd rather Prince become a Wicca than a JW. Or better yet, a Satanist.
"You need people like me so you can point your fuckin' fingers and say, "That's the bad guy." "

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Reply #38 posted 02/20/05 3:31pm

LadyQ

Whatever. Prince's first religion is Prince. He knows about all of the religions and he takes from them that would fit in with Princism and when they know longer fit in with the program he discards them. Don't read too much into it.

LQ
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Reply #39 posted 02/20/05 3:32pm

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LadyQ said:

Whatever. Prince's first religion is Prince. He knows about all of the religions and he takes from them that would fit in with Princism and when they know longer fit in with the program he discards them. Don't read too much into it.

LQ



Well he certainly let that JW bullshit get to him pretty heavily.
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Reply #40 posted 02/20/05 4:38pm

LadyQ

Just give it time. It's frustratin' I know. Even if it does last, Prince will have broken every Jehovah rule in the book. How long did that name change thing last? Impulse is that boy's middle name.

LQ
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Reply #41 posted 02/20/05 11:35pm

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laurarichardson said:

MetroArea said:



PLEASE don't state your opinions about the Bible as fact, you show yourself to be a complete idiot.

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Because someone takes the Bible as fact does not make them an idiot. It is called faith. No one went off on this thread about Wicca or Pagan beliefs so way go to name calling on a Christian.


But the Bible being true isn't a fact, it's an opinion (Faith is still an opinion) - and no-one here said Wicca or Paegan beliefs were fact, so no need to call them out, unlike the Christian who wrongly stated their singular opinion was a fact.
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Reply #42 posted 02/21/05 6:24am

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EvilWhiteMale said:

LadyQ said:

Whatever. Prince's first religion is Prince. He knows about all of the religions and he takes from them that would fit in with Princism and when they know longer fit in with the program he discards them. Don't read too much into it.

LQ



Well he certainly let that JW bullshit get to him pretty heavily.


NO it's called testicular shock treatment. Works every time.
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Reply #43 posted 02/21/05 11:44am

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DigitalLisa3000 said:

laurarichardson said:


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Being a fan from the 1999 era and an African-American I can say that some people find P a little spooky.

Some people think he want down to the crossroads and made a deal with devil and I think it has a lot to do with the following things.

1 Working 20 hours a day on music.
2.Mastering so many insturtments.
3.Doing outragous things in his carreer and getting away with it.
4. All the woman that seem to follow him around as if he were a Pied Piper.
5. Building a mystic around himself with lies and half-truths to the point were
public did not know what was real or fake.

I don't think P made a deal with anyone but, I can see why you would think he had some knowledge of the dark arts. I think he just works hard, is very talented and has been really lucky.

I like a rock from the 60's, like santana and the who, but I know for a fact back in the days a lot of those rock groups did in fact make a deal with the devil, in exchange 4 money, women & fame. What Prince did in the mid 80's From 1999 2 Around the world in the day in my opinnion was influenced from the rock style in the 60's. Maybe I'm getting a little bit 2 deep in2 this, but if I look at the overall picture the very person we all look up as our hero could or may have very well been evil.....

cool lol



whofarted You know it for a fact?? What, did Ol' Scratch himself show you the contracts? You hang out at Lucifer's house alot or somethin'?
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Reply #44 posted 02/21/05 11:47am

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laurarichardson said:

blackguitaristz said:



No, u are not far off. During his second album, he got a lot of coverage from Black music magazines and teen mags. Right On! and later, Black Beat. Anyway, around 79, black girls LOVED Prince. Bigtime. Then when P released Dirty Mind, some girls thought he looked "kinda weird". BUT when P came out with "Controversy" in 81, that's when I heard the most backlash from the same black girls and others. My friends parents or their elders, uncles, aunts, grandparents, etc. Everyone to some extent commented on P's eyes and how he looked "evil". The same girls who adored P just two years earlier were now scared to death of him. That stayed with P easily up untill 85. P played with imagery and backward masking in the same vein as Led Zeppelin, Bowie and The Stones. There is no doubt about that.

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I know I was one of those black girls. I was creeped out around the Controversy period and creeped out about the backwards messages in his songs. However, I am still a fan of his music but, I would never want to meet this guy or get on his bad side.(LOL)

That's deep. I could go into a grip of shit about this very topic on here, but I won't. I'll just say that us old school P fans that were actually there back in the day know what was up. We all know why P put his eyes on the center of the record of the 1999 album.
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Reply #45 posted 02/21/05 11:48am

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I don't think there was anything specifically Wiccan in Prince's beliefs, but I'm sure the overt spirituality in his songs could bear a strong resemblance to some of their beliefs.

Here's a great thread about Prince's spiritual evolution:
http://www.prince.org/msg...sg_2346254
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Reply #46 posted 02/21/05 12:50pm

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blackguitaristz said:

laurarichardson said:


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I know I was one of those black girls. I was creeped out around the Controversy period and creeped out about the backwards messages in his songs. However, I am still a fan of his music but, I would never want to meet this guy or get on his bad side.(LOL)

That's deep. I could go into a grip of shit about this very topic on here, but I won't. I'll just say that us old school P fans that were actually there back in the day know what was up. We all know why P put his eyes on the center of the record of the 1999 album.



Hell yeah. I used to be hell'a scared of his eyes.my cousin used to have a huge poster of him.Just his face, back when he had the afro. It used to scare me shitless. I really started to get into P in the controversy days. My mom didn't like it cause she thought he was a devil becuase of those eyes. I used to sneak my neighbor's controvery album. She caught me playing "Annie christian" and said that P was demonic. Then when I got my own controversy album, I hung the poster on the wall. My aunt took it down years later, when I was 22. lol They all thought they P was demonic back in the day. lol
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Reply #47 posted 02/21/05 2:00pm

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blackguitaristz said:

laurarichardson said:


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I know I was one of those black girls. I was creeped out around the Controversy period and creeped out about the backwards messages in his songs. However, I am still a fan of his music but, I would never want to meet this guy or get on his bad side.(LOL)

That's deep. I could go into a grip of shit about this very topic on here, but I won't. I'll just say that us old school P fans that were actually there back in the day know what was up. We all know why P put his eyes on the center of the record of the 1999 album.



Interesting. I'm a fan from back in the day and never thought his eyes were anything but beautuful. Never thhought the dude was demonic or any of that stuff. Crazy yes. Demonic no. shrug And yes I'm black.

Then again my brother was blasting AC/DC, Ozzy Osbourne and Queen in the basement sooo...
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Reply #48 posted 02/21/05 2:42pm

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LadyQ said:

Just give it time. It's frustratin' I know. Even if it does last, Prince will have broken every Jehovah rule in the book. How long did that name change thing last? Impulse is that boy's middle name.

LQ

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Co-Sign. It will only be a matter of time before he is off to some other beliefs. Whatever he is into it is going to take 2nd place to the Prince religion.
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Reply #49 posted 02/21/05 2:45pm

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blackguitaristz said:

laurarichardson said:


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I know I was one of those black girls. I was creeped out around the Controversy period and creeped out about the backwards messages in his songs. However, I am still a fan of his music but, I would never want to meet this guy or get on his bad side.(LOL)

That's deep. I could go into a grip of shit about this very topic on here, but I won't. I'll just say that us old school P fans that were actually there back in the day know what was up. We all know why P put his eyes on the center of the record of the 1999 album.

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You don't have to go into it. Anybody black on this board that was around back in the day knows the demonic stories going around the black community about Prince and I think he was very much aware of it and used it to build a mystic around himself.
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Reply #50 posted 02/21/05 3:08pm

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laurarichardson said:

blackguitaristz said:


That's deep. I could go into a grip of shit about this very topic on here, but I won't. I'll just say that us old school P fans that were actually there back in the day know what was up. We all know why P put his eyes on the center of the record of the 1999 album.

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You don't have to go into it. Anybody black on this board that was around back in the day knows the demonic stories going around the black community about Prince and I think he was very much aware of it and used it to build a mystic around himself.



:::raises hand::: hmm I fit all the criteria but I don't recall any of what you guys are talking about. See my post up further.
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Reply #51 posted 02/21/05 3:09pm

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laurarichardson said:

blackguitaristz said:


That's deep. I could go into a grip of shit about this very topic on here, but I won't. I'll just say that us old school P fans that were actually there back in the day know what was up. We all know why P put his eyes on the center of the record of the 1999 album.

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You don't have to go into it. Anybody black on this board that was around back in the day knows the demonic stories going around the black community about Prince and I think he was very much aware of it and used it to build a mystic around himself.


Back in '81 in the Midwest everyone was too busy questioning Prince's sexuality. But I did think Controversy was kind of dark, but I didn't read too much into it. I was listening to Punk Rock, Rock and Heavy Metal also back then so I just thought he was playing into that. I did like the unique way he did it though which is what attracted me so much to it.

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Reply #52 posted 02/21/05 3:26pm

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Ifsixwuz9 said:

laurarichardson said:


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You don't have to go into it. Anybody black on this board that was around back in the day knows the demonic stories going around the black community about Prince and I think he was very much aware of it and used it to build a mystic around himself.



:::raises hand::: hmm I fit all the criteria but I don't recall any of what you guys are talking about. See my post up further.

I saw your post. When I was kid, KISS was my favorite band. I listened to Zeppelin, Alice Cooper, Sabbath, etc. 8, 9 years old, I was listening to that. It wasn't just Parliament-Funkadelic. They were huge to me as well, but I listened to it all. So, when P came around, I was more than hip to what time it was. I knew what he was doing. I knew right away when I heard a backward mask in one of his songs. Once u heard it in "Stairway To Heaven" and "Hotel California", I could detect that shit in P's music right away. I used to blow my friends mind whenever I would show them that in P's songs.
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Reply #53 posted 02/21/05 6:21pm

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EvilWhiteMale said:

I'd rather Prince become a Wicca than a JW. Or better yet, a Satanist.


Hell..Prince's lyrics and lifestyle of the early eighties depict more of a picture of true Satanism than any Christian religion.
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Reply #54 posted 02/21/05 7:40pm

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rando310 said:

EvilWhiteMale said:

I'd rather Prince become a Wicca than a JW. Or better yet, a Satanist.


Hell..Prince's lyrics and lifestyle of the early eighties depict more of a picture of true Satanism than any Christian religion.


That's definitely true. He needs more Anton LaVey and less Larry Graham in his life now.
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Reply #55 posted 02/21/05 7:49pm

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Prince is already acting like a good satanist. He's getting to know the Bible pretty well. The JW religion is just a cover-up for his Bible studies. You'll see. He's part of the "system" now and has been for awhile -- "hardcore since '94"
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Reply #56 posted 02/21/05 8:13pm

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Prince is already acting like a good satanist. He's getting to know the Bible pretty well. The JW religion is just a cover-up for his Bible studies. You'll see. He's part of the "system" now and has been for awhile -- "hardcore since '94"



Nah, he's the furthest thing from being a Satanist.
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Reply #57 posted 02/21/05 10:26pm

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Prince is nothing but a brilliant marketer of his persona!

Whateva the weather calls for at the moment. The androgeny and satanic teasing was good for the time. I wouldn't take anything he does literal. He was selling a mystic and controversial image. One that your parents said you should stay away from, which made you want to listen more and buy more records!

Flash forward....hmmm Im getting to old for these assless pants...booty! I need to change my image, but I need it to be believable...hmm I know I'll join the JW's.
It worked for Mike!innocent

Seriously I cant judge him, maybe he is sincere, but the Rainbow children was definatly designed to promote his new reborn image.
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Reply #58 posted 02/21/05 10:40pm

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Dissonance said:

Prince is nothing but a brilliant marketer of his persona!

Whateva the weather calls for at the moment. The androgeny and satanic teasing was good for the time. I wouldn't take anything he does literal. He was selling a mystic and controversial image. One that your parents said you should stay away from, which made you want to listen more and buy more records!

Flash forward....hmmm Im getting to old for these assless pants...booty! I need to change my image, but I need it to be believable...hmm I know I'll join the JW's.
It worked for Mike!innocent

Seriously I cant judge him, maybe he is sincere, but the Rainbow children was definatly designed to promote his new reborn image.


And that was quite the catastrophy.
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Reply #59 posted 02/21/05 11:09pm

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