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Thread started 02/18/05 7:01am

IstenSzek

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"THE GREATEST ROMANCE EVER $OLD"

snowflake

I was just checking out the video room over at the npgmc to get
my weekly fix of the "Dolphin" video on, when I checked out the
clip for "The Greatest Romance ever Sold" again.

And I have to say "hats off" to whomever produced it. It looks
stunning. Ok, the quality of the clip on the site is not all 2
good but the video has some stunning visuals.

Prince never looked much better imo than in those shots of him
and the woman sitting back 2 back on chairs in white clothes..


But my initial thought, on hearing the song again, was howcome
so many people agree that this was "a wrong choice" for first
single from the "Rave Un2 The Joy Fantastic" album?

Ok, it's a slow song, but I don't consider it a ballad as such
since the beat is kind of mid-tempo.

Coupled with the sophisticated beat and arabian flourished, it
makes for a well written en (for a change) not overproduced
track. It's a song I liked on first listen but still like today
without ever being bored of it.

And the video (also for a change) helped to make my love for
the song even deeper.

Despite of what others may say, I think it was a very good
choice for lead off single from "Rave". The reason it bombed
can be many, but not due to it's being not good enough.

Heck "Musicology" charted and that's a much weaker track imo
it's just a funkbynumbers whilst "Greatest Romance" has some
irresistible melodies and very well written lyrics

Ok, besides that stuff about Adam and Eve. I Still don't know
why he never left her

biggrin

An obvious reason would be that there simply was no other woman
around heheh. But I don't think that's what Prince had in mind
with those lyrics.

In short: clapping for this very cool song from a so-so album.
and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
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Reply #1 posted 02/18/05 7:02am

IstenSzek

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Due to all my incoherent babble above, I forgot to ask:

who produced the video?

who's the woman in it? Is that Geneva?

Where the hell is Geneva these days? and what did she do?
did she sing back up? or was she just a dancer?

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and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
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Reply #2 posted 02/18/05 7:03am

CalhounSq

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It's a really beautiful vid nod
heart prince I never met you, but I LOVE you & I will forever!! Thank you for being YOU - my little Princey, the best to EVER do it prince heart
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Reply #3 posted 02/18/05 7:04am

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Ohh purple joy oh purple bliss oh purple rapture!
REAL MUSIC by REAL MUSICIANS - Prince
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Reply #4 posted 02/18/05 8:17am

GottaLetitgo

Greatest Romance was not a bad song but it was a terrible single. Here you have hype upon hype about how this was going to be Prince's Santana like comeback. Clive Davis was out there talking about how great the album and the single were and there was just so much anticpation. And the song...well, it was just blah. People didn't give a rat's ass about its intricate chord changes or Arabian feel. It just didn't sound like a hit coming out of the radio. It might have not been a bad third or fourth single, if the album had gone that deep, but if the intention was to reintroduce the man, they needed a doorway. Some connection to the pop audience...something they could grab ahold of. One of the duets, So Far So Pleased would have been perfect. "Hey, who is that with Gwen Stefani...is that Prince...that's rocking!" That's what Santana did...connected with Rob Thomas who at the time was hot. Get them in the door and THEN hit them with deeper singles.

I just think the whole project was one big contradiction. How did they expect to reestablish the man on the scene with a mid-tempo number? Either go for the audience or don't but don't say you're trying a comeback and do the same old thing.

Here, for what it's worth, is the order of singles I would have released:

1. So Far So Pleased (Top 40) Man O War (R and B)
2. Wherever You Go (Top 40) Hot With U (R and B)---Wherever You Go would have been a hit; Lenny Kravitz prooved that with Again
3. Baby Knows (AC)
4. Greatest Romance (AC)
All good things they say never last...
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Reply #5 posted 02/18/05 8:18am

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I really like this song cause its ssooo sexy! razz
but I've only seen the video like once. I can't find it anywhere
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Reply #6 posted 02/18/05 8:29am

paul0478

Yes its a beautiful vid... yeah and who was that woman in it?
Paul G II

"If you set your mind free baby... maybe you'll understand"
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Reply #7 posted 02/18/05 9:07am

IstenSzek

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GottaLetitgo said:

"Hey, who is that with Gwen Stefani...is that Prince...that's rocking!"



or, given the way it was mixed and how he made her sound, people more
likely would have gone

"hey I didn't know Vanity was recording with Prince again"

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Reply #8 posted 02/18/05 9:08am

IstenSzek

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MoonCat said:

I really like this song cause its ssooo sexy! razz
but I've only seen the video like once. I can't find it anywhere


it's over at the npgmc in the cyberclips room, along with
some of his other videos like dolphin, america, glam slam
same december, i like it there and more.
and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
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Reply #9 posted 02/18/05 9:15am

sextonseven

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IstenSzek said:



Heck "Musicology" charted and that's a much weaker track imo
it's just a funkbynumbers whilst "Greatest Romance" has some
irresistible melodies and very well written lyrics


Yes Musicology is a weaker track and as a result, it performed much worse on the charts. I'm not quite sure of the exact numbers since my Billboard books are at home, but "Greatest Romance Ever Sold" peaked in the 60s on the Hot 100 and in the 20s on the R&B chart. "Musicology" went to #120 on the Hot 100 and #44 on the R&B chart.
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Reply #10 posted 02/18/05 9:33am

Rhondab

I love this song...the adam & eve version and the q-tip/neptunes versions....



thumbs up!
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Reply #11 posted 02/18/05 10:35am

MoonCat

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IstenSzek said:

MoonCat said:

I really like this song cause its ssooo sexy! razz
but I've only seen the video like once. I can't find it anywhere


it's over at the npgmc in the cyberclips room, along with
some of his other videos like dolphin, america, glam slam
same december, i like it there and more.


but Im not a member sad
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Reply #12 posted 02/18/05 10:58am

metalorange

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I think the video was finished weeks after the single was released? That couldn't have helped.

I read a bit in 'The Vault' just the other day that 'Rave unto the Joy Fantastic' originally had a lot more uptempo rockier tracks, but various people, including his lawyer Llondell, thought it didn't have enough r'n'b tracks for his r'n'b audience, so he changed it.

So it could have been a very different album. Originally 'Beautiful Strange' and 'Y Should Eye Do That When Eye Can Do This' were on it.
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Reply #13 posted 02/18/05 11:41am

MoonCat

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I really like Beutiful Strange too cool
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Reply #14 posted 02/18/05 12:22pm

jpav

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Part of the problem, was that the video was a few months late... There was no momentum from any pre-album press to capitalize on.

I also think the word "Sold" in the title was silly, and didn't really make sense in the context of the song, so I think it was hard for a casual listener to really get close to it.

Having said that, I think it is a fantastic groove, with beautiful harmonies. Defintely rises above much of his R & B stuff from the last 10 years...

Still should've releases Baby Knows or SFSP first. Needed to show the world he was more than a BET artist; with some catchy rock/pop stuff.
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Reply #15 posted 02/18/05 1:36pm

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jpav said:

Part of the problem, was that the video was a few months late... There was no momentum from any pre-album press to capitalize on.

I also think the word "Sold" in the title was silly, and didn't really make sense in the context of the song, so I think it was hard for a casual listener to really get close to it.

Having said that, I think it is a fantastic groove, with beautiful harmonies. Defintely rises above much of his R & B stuff from the last 10 years...

Still should've releases Baby Knows or SFSP first. Needed to show the world he was more than a BET artist; with some catchy rock/pop stuff.

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I guess all you have forgotten that Clive Davis was fired a little bit after the CD came out. Do you think that my have something to do with the RAVE disaster.

In addtion,there is a rumor that L.A.Reid wanted P to bring in outside producers and writers for the next Arista CD.
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Reply #16 posted 02/18/05 1:45pm

thekidsgirl

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I love love love this song and video!!
Probaly his second best vid in my opinion. Im telling ya'll if
Rave had, had all the good press and promotion behind it that Musicology
had it could have done MUCH better!
If you will, so will I
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Reply #17 posted 02/18/05 3:17pm

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laurarichardson said:

jpav said:

Part of the problem, was that the video was a few months late... There was no momentum from any pre-album press to capitalize on.

I also think the word "Sold" in the title was silly, and didn't really make sense in the context of the song, so I think it was hard for a casual listener to really get close to it.

Having said that, I think it is a fantastic groove, with beautiful harmonies. Defintely rises above much of his R & B stuff from the last 10 years...

Still should've releases Baby Knows or SFSP first. Needed to show the world he was more than a BET artist; with some catchy rock/pop stuff.

-----
I guess all you have forgotten that Clive Davis was fired a little bit after the CD came out. Do you think that my have something to do with the RAVE disaster.

In addtion,there is a rumor that L.A.Reid wanted P to bring in outside producers and writers for the next Arista CD.



No actually BMG tried pushing out Clive and he said NO so they gave him J Records to leave Arista
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Reply #18 posted 02/18/05 10:10pm

LLA

IstenSzek said:

snowflake

I was just checking out the video room over at the npgmc to get
my weekly fix of the "Dolphin" video on, when I checked out the
clip for "The Greatest Romance ever Sold" again.

And I have to say "hats off" to whomever produced it. It looks
stunning. Ok, the quality of the clip on the site is not all 2
good but the video has some stunning visuals.

Prince never looked much better imo than in those shots of him
and the woman sitting back 2 back on chairs in white clothes..


But my initial thought, on hearing the song again, was howcome
so many people agree that this was "a wrong choice" for first
single from the "Rave Un2 The Joy Fantastic" album?

Ok, it's a slow song, but I don't consider it a ballad as such
since the beat is kind of mid-tempo.

Coupled with the sophisticated beat and arabian flourished, it
makes for a well written en (for a change) not overproduced
track. It's a song I liked on first listen but still like today
without ever being bored of it.

And the video (also for a change) helped to make my love for
the song even deeper.

Despite of what others may say, I think it was a very good
choice for lead off single from "Rave". The reason it bombed
can be many, but not due to it's being not good enough.

Heck "Musicology" charted and that's a much weaker track imo
it's just a funkbynumbers whilst "Greatest Romance" has some
irresistible melodies and very well written lyrics

Ok, besides that stuff about Adam and Eve. I Still don't know
why he never left her

biggrin

An obvious reason would be that there simply was no other woman
around heheh. But I don't think that's what Prince had in mind
with those lyrics.

In short: clapping for this very cool song from a so-so album.


Love this video, too! One of his coolest!
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Reply #19 posted 02/18/05 11:05pm

bkw

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I find both the song and the video a bit dull. shrug
When I read about the evils of drinking, I gave up reading.
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Reply #20 posted 02/18/05 11:08pm

MrSquiggle

I really think Greatest Romance was the best single choice from Rave. So Far, So Pleased? Nah. That's basically a Gwen Stefani song with Prince on backing vocals.
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